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RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - Ninurta - 03-22-2022 You also need to know how to prepare and cook what you grow and gather. Most folks think corn on the cob is the only way you eat corn, but we shelled if off the cob into grains, and took it from there. The grains are easier and more compact to store than corn on the cob, and I used the cobs to make pipes, an added bonus. I used What we called "prickly ash" to make the stems out of. There was a big-assed bush of it growing at the edge of our garden, and I could cut stems, shave off the bark and thorns, and then use a coat hanger to push the pith out of the middle of it to make pipe stems. but back to the corn. That corn, after being shelled, could be used as an ingredient in any manner of soups, or if ground into meal, could be used to make mush or fry bread. Mom used to make fry bread out of it by mixing in onions or whatever was handy into the dough, making flat patties, and frying them. that was also called "pones" or "Johnny Cakes", a corruption of "Shawnee Cakes". Or, you could just boil the grains and eat them as a side dish. Beans? everybody knows how to cook beans... but I bet you didn't know you could grind them up to make a bread out of. Or a paste for other stuff. I can't help you with the squash. I never would eat that stuff. Mom cooked it up with onions and stuff, but it never crossed my lips. She also used to fry green tomatoes, because they weren't ripe yet, but we were still hungry anyhow. She breaded that with eggs and corn meal before frying it. I hate fried green tomatoes, but when you get hungry enough, the strangest shit starts looking like food. I'd catch crawdads out of the creek, and boil them in salt water. They are exactly like miniature lobsters. Last summer, I noticed that someone had crawdad traps hung off the side of my bridge here. I left them alone, 'cause folks gotta eat, and I wasn't the one catching them. When I was a teenager, I ate groundhogs, squirrels, rabbits, deer, fish, turtles, snakes, and any damned thing else I could catch. Except possums. I'm not eating anything I've seen crawl 3 feet up a dead cow's ass, and possums are that. I caught catfish out of the river, and have eaten gar fish caught out of the same river, which was a pain in the ass to clean. As it turns out, gars have scales that butt together instead of overlap, so they're tough to scale. I recommend just skinning them and having done with it. We even ate a grampus, which is the local name for what other folks call a "hellbender". it's a giant salamander that lives in rivers in the US. dear Old Dad called them "water dogs". If it walks on legs through the woods, it can be eaten. Some critters are better than others to eat, though. Point is. learn how to use what you have available, or what you can make available. The time night come that you're glad you learned that. . RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - Ninurta - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 11:13 AM)WonderCow Wrote: @Ninurta your grandmothers cough medicine must have been a doozy. Sounds fantastic to me. Hahaha! I don't know if it really healed you, or just made it so that you didn't care until you were better naturally, but either way it worked! . RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - hounddoghowlie - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 03:25 AM)Snarl Wrote:Quote:The White House confirmed Monday they expect certain parts of the world to suffer a food shortage as an effect of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Hmmm, I wonder how far elected federal government, supreme court justices, irs employees, fbi, nsa, cia dod, justicie department,treasury depament, certain state governors and legistrators, and their alphabet agencies ( did I miss anybody) slow cooked and rotated on a spit over a open fire at a bbq festival would stretch to feed the masses. Maybe not that far, but that and what they would have been gorging themselves on during the suffering us pions were are going thru on would be a start. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - Grace - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 06:17 AM)putnam6 Wrote: [ Americans have made it through a lot, we are a strong people we will make it through this. I missed anything about Sanders, do you know more about his interview? RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - interupt42 - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 03:25 AM)Snarl Wrote:Quote:The White House confirmed Monday they expect certain parts of the world to suffer a food shortage as an effect of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Its amazing they are still committed to RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA and since Trump is gone they got there new boogey man to distract from the incompetence. the only thing that is not a purposely manufactured shortage is the peoples IQ levels that voted and continue to support the democrats. Having said that: Both party along with the MSM are truly the average Americans enemy. The republicans that support the GOP selected darlings aren't to far behind either , but the democrats have taken stupid to an unimaginable level of stupid.They have gone full REEEEEEEEEEE. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - CelticBanshee3 - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 08:57 AM)Ninurta Wrote: My Dear Old Dad, who lived through the Depression, told me that there was no shortage of "stuff", but that there was a shortage of money to buy that "stuff". It's why he was such a good shot, and why he used to count my bullets before I went hunting, and expected me to return with a piece of game for each expended bullet. If he got 15 cents to buy ammo, he bought it. And if he took 9 shells out squirrel hunting, he damned well had to come back with 9 squirrels, or unspent ammo equal to however many squirrels he couldn't find to shoot... and that is what he expected of me. He figured that if he could do it, I could too, but Dear Old Dad was a far better man than I will ever be. Your dad, was like my two grandfathers. My maternal grandfather raised 9 girls by farming, fishing, cutting wood, and making moonshine. I heard stories of how good his moonshine was. Wish I had his recipe. My paternal grandfather raised 10 children, 7 boys, 3 girls, by farming and working in the cotton mills when they were not shut down during the depression. 5 of his sons fought in WW2, the youngest 2, my dad was the baby, also served just after the war ended in Germany and France. I use to hate it when we were made to get out and hoe the corn and shell the beans then have to can what the garden provided but now I am thankful. We built a tunnel house to put my citrus trees in last fall and other plants through the winter. It worked very well and we will build another soon. We have a garden plowed up and ready to plant. We have always kept extra canned food and gardens but have really buckled down the last two years. Thank goodness most of my neighbors are family and friends who also garden, raise beef, mechanic, electrician, welder, former military. My only worry is Atlanta keeps expanding closer and closer. I envy you living in the beautiful mountain area. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - Snarl - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 02:06 PM)hounddoghowlie Wrote: Hmmm, I wonder how far ... (did I miss anybody) slow cooked and rotated on a spit over a open fire at a bbq festival would stretch to feed the masses. People will be the most abundant food source available for a little while after SHTF. That's the reason they plant all that fear of cannibalism on us in the movies. HAHAHAHA I figure it like this: if you let all the useless eaters gobble-up all the available resources ... what you've got left to eat is only your own fault for lack of understanding/planning. Somebody waltzes into your garden with their kids and starts eating up your efforts and your chances of survival ... whatchagonnado? RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - hounddoghowlie - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 03:30 PM)Snarl Wrote: Somebody waltzes into your garden with their kids and starts eating up your efforts and your chances of survival ... whatchagonnado?Snarl's son: What's for supper Pa? Snarl: Long Pig son! Snarl's son: Oh Goody I get the funny bone! Two Days Later, Snarl's son: How much longer before we get to eat the piglets? Snarl: Oh I figure about 2 or 3 more days beatin's will make them good and tender. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - Snarl - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 08:57 AM)Ninurta Wrote: ETA: This is a photo I took of my Dear Old Dad still plowing with pony power in 1974: Two horses for each rider in your household. Three mules. Half a dozen hunting dogs. Short these ... anyone trying to survive SHTF is gonna find themselves hard-pressed. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - beez - 03-22-2022 At my job, and in life we make plans. We plan for things. We look ahead and say, "If XYZ happens, then we do this". I know DC does the same. You'll never see a starving politician. They want this to happen. They created a scenario where this would happen. Or They are so incompetent that they only react instead of act. So they either wanted this to happen or they're idiots and morons. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - hounddoghowlie - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 03:54 PM)beez Wrote: So they either wanted this to happen or they're idiots and morons. I say both. Very few politicians have any sense, and of those most succumb to the " i'm in charge power trip ego" and get even more stupid than the ones that didn't have any sense. Those that don't succumb are usually run off and threatened with loss of life to them or their family if they speak about what goes on in my opinion. Could be wrong, but i don't think I am. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - Snarl - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 03:54 PM)beez Wrote: So they either wanted this to happen or they're idiots and morons. They're not _all_ idiots and morons. The thought that they wanted this to happen to 340,000,000 people would warrant their violent and unconstitutional overthrow. I wasn't a J6er, because their was no call-to-arms, but heads-rolling was warranted a LONG time ago. That snake John Boehner and his lapdog Paul Ryan ... and many before them. I've recently been seeing news clips of Bill Barr justifying his existence and how he defied Trump. The whole lot of 'em need to swing ... even the ones who are clearly outnumbered ... because they could have at least stood up and protested as the most senior leaders paid for by the governed. And don't get me started on these scoundrels in uniform. Maybe it's because I'm closer to them, but they swore oaths they are all too happy to take a big stinking dump on. The Officer Corp is beyond saving at this point. Not a single one of 'em can be trusted. I'd extend that to the vast majority of the senior NCOs as well. They're hand-picked for promotion for a reason. I almost wanna see them thrown against the Russian Army ... or better yet ... the Chinese ... even better, both at the same time. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - beez - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 04:26 PM)hounddoghowlie Wrote:(03-22-2022, 03:54 PM)beez Wrote: So they either wanted this to happen or they're idiots and morons. My litmus test for honest politicians has always been the Congressional Hush Fund used to pay off and cover up sexual misconduct by our representatives. To date, not a single member of congress has called to eliminate the funds or to name the people who have used it. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - beez - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 04:28 PM)Snarl Wrote:(03-22-2022, 03:54 PM)beez Wrote: So they either wanted this to happen or they're idiots and morons. My brother in Naval reserves. He scrubbed his online accounts, unfriended me on Facebook (I still use for keeping touch with my old military unit) just so he could get a promotion before he retires. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - Snarl - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 04:33 PM)beez Wrote: My brother in Naval reserves. He scrubbed his online accounts, unfriended me on Facebook (I still use for keeping touch with my old military unit) just so he could get a promotion before he retires. Are you pullin' my leg?? RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - beez - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 04:34 PM)Snarl Wrote:(03-22-2022, 04:33 PM)beez Wrote: My brother in Naval reserves. He scrubbed his online accounts, unfriended me on Facebook (I still use for keeping touch with my old military unit) just so he could get a promotion before he retires. Nope. Apparently, I'm too "mouthy" online. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - Snarl - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 04:37 PM)beez Wrote:(03-22-2022, 04:34 PM)Snarl Wrote:(03-22-2022, 04:33 PM)beez Wrote: My brother in Naval reserves. He scrubbed his online accounts, unfriended me on Facebook (I still use for keeping touch with my old military unit) just so he could get a promotion before he retires. So much indoctrination. If you haven't seen it with your own eyes, you cannot understand the effectiveness of what's in place. Trump started to erase the requirements. I've often wondered if that was the tipping point for him. RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - interupt42 - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 04:30 PM)beez Wrote:(03-22-2022, 04:26 PM)hounddoghowlie Wrote:(03-22-2022, 03:54 PM)beez Wrote: So they either wanted this to happen or they're idiots and morons. Yep my other litmus test for politicians is to see if they make conflict of interest issue number 1 and their only or primary focus. If they talk about fixing healthcare,taxes,welfare,gov't spending, regulations, education, economy, etc then they are either: 1. The problem and bought and paid for: Their intention is to keep you distracted from the real problem and keep you chasing your tail with the symptoms of the real problem. 2. Complete morons: Anyone that is trying or expects to fix our issues with a bunch of politicians in congress that are riddled with conflict of interest who not only created the issues in the first place but are also benefiting from those same issues they created are some kind of special. Trying to fix any of our issues without first reducing conflict of interest in congress is the equivalent of going to you local Gangs or MOB and asking them to fix the crime in your neighborhood that they created and are benefiting from. Can't fix stupid and yet many smart people in their own way fail to understand this simple logical thinking process? So far not one has passed that litmus test. However, trump came somewhat close and brought attention to the MSM propaganda, The swamp, and our dependencies with foreign adversary. Unfortunately I think trump landed on option 2 above when he relied on swamp creatures to fix the swamp. The GOP swamp completely played trump while feeding his ego until the very end. His Republican party darlings who composed his administration basically sh1tted on him and validated the most likely corrupted election in history. All the while his 3 letter agencies and DOJ opened investigations to only close lose ends and get rid of evidence and eyewitnesses (hillary email, epstein didn't kill himself, hunter biden laptop, etc) There are only 2 people I would be willing to take a chance with and actually get behind but neither really has passed my litmus test. However those 2 are Ron Desantis and Rand Paul more so Desantis and paul more so because of his dad and has gone against the GOP and the GOP has never endorsed him . RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - Ninurta - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 02:52 PM)CelticBanshee3 Wrote: Your dad, was like my two grandfathers. My maternal grandfather raised 9 girls by farming, fishing, cutting wood, and making moonshine. I heard stories of how good his moonshine was. Wish I had his recipe. My paternal grandfather raised 10 children, 7 boys, 3 girls, by farming and working in the cotton mills when they were not shut down during the depression. 5 of his sons fought in WW2, the youngest 2, my dad was the baby, also served just after the war ended in Germany and France. Dear Old Dad served in Germany right after WWII, in the 15th Constabulary Squadron, guarding the new borders against the Godless Commies. His separation from the army and the ending of that unit coincided. When he was a kid, he traded a shotgun for a blacksmith setup - anvil, hammer, mud-box and bellows - so that he could keep his horses shod himself. Later in life, we built the forge he taught me in. We made the mud-box out of an old truck rim, by welding sockets for iron pipe legs on it, and making a "T" out of pipe to weld to the bottom of the hole for the hub. On the "T", one end was welded to the rim, and the other end we put a rotating "door" on to control air flow, and on the stem of the "T" we mounted an electric blower so that, through the miracle of electricity, I didn't have to pump a bellows. Then we packed the truck rim with red clay to hold the heat, and Dear Old Dad made a grate to cover the top of the hub so that the coals didn't fall into the "T", but we could still blow air into them. When you turned on the blower, the rotating door at the bottom controlled air flow - more closed for more air into the coals, more open for less air into the coals. a 150 pound anvil mounted on a section of tree trunk that I never got split for firewood, and a 2 pound hammer, completed the setup. I learned to make horse shoes - with and without ice clogs on them for summer and winter - and knives. I learned how to forge weld, and how to twist ribbons of steel to make decorative fireplace sets, among other things. Dear Old Dad also made a small anvil for finish work out of a foot long section of old railroad track. I never got around to showing my son how to blacksmith. I was working a lot in those days, not around enough. However, he HAS taken up the sport on his own now, again with a home-built forge. He makes knives. Dear Old Dad never made any moonshine, but we knew folks who did, so we always kept a couple gallons in the cellar, for medicinal purposes you understand. Instead, he made wine. He made wine out of anything he could get hold of - dandelions, potatoes, blackberries, just anything that could be fermented. I made some once out of wild plums. An old guy we knew made moonshine in his kitchen. He had an old wood cookstove, and had built a groundhog still of about 5 gallons capacity, and would run off small batches at will. We could get it from him for about 20 bucks a gallon - try finding moonshine for that price now! Pap showed me now to move piles of vegetation with a horse and a loop of rope fastened to the singletree of the harness to clear land for a garden. He said that was how they used to move hay shocks. If we needed a dog house or a chicken clutch, we built it. there were no Walmarts here in those days. When it gets right down to surviving on nothing, some folks can get just downright inventive. Thee mountains ARE beautiful from the tops of the ridges. Down here in the holler where I live, it's just mostly shady. And green. Green everywhere. Even in winter. When the leaves fall from the trees and the weeds die back, the mountain laurel and ground pines takes over the task of greening things up through the winter. . RE: White House Warns of Global Food Shortages After Ukraine Invasion - Ninurta - 03-22-2022 (03-22-2022, 03:49 PM)Snarl Wrote:(03-22-2022, 08:57 AM)Ninurta Wrote: ETA: This is a photo I took of my Dear Old Dad still plowing with pony power in 1974: We kept two horses all the time, but no mules. At one time, we had 17 hounds. Dear Old Dad liked his dawgs! We usually kept 2 or 3 pigs, and at one time had 400 game chickens and 8 or 10 ducks. My sisters kept cats, but Dear Old Dad hated cats - he said they had no purpose in life. One day, I saw with my own eyes, Pap pick up a hickory nut sized pebble and sidearm it 30 feet straight into the side of a cat's head because the cat was crouched and about to try to jump one of his chickens. When I was about 15, I had to shoot my own dog for killing chickens. Sometimes in life, a man has to be able to shoot his own dog... and pap liked his chickens. One winter, we had 400 chickens going into winter, and 20 left coming out the other side of winter. That year was a hard winter, and we got snowed in for two solid months, couldn't get out to get supplies, so we ate chicken and eggs for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. What we didn't eat froze to death, all but that surviving 20. I still can't hardly stand to eat chicken to this day. . |