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FDA Bait and Switch on Vaccines
#1
Trying to get to the bottom of the latest "FDA approval" is a hot mess. I had a hard time understanding it. Thankfully, the two lawyers on this video make it quick and clear. 

In short, the EUA is still in effect. There is no FDA approval (biological license) for any available vaccine. There is medical debate over the similarity between the current Pfizer vaccine and the non-available one. If an FDA biological license is granted to any one of the vaccines, the EUA is dissolved for all of them. 

What is clear, is the media blitz to push something that is patently false. Questions still linger in my brain.

- Is it really an emergency after going on two years?
- If the vaccine mandate is legitimate, why not have Congress write the law? 
- With all this information available, why is the FDA not in court 24/7?

***This thread is dedicated to Mystic Wanderer. I hope she has a WiFi connection where ever she is. You are missed. 



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(09-14-2021, 02:47 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: Trying to get to the bottom of the latest "FDA approval" is a hot mess. I had a hard time understanding it. Thankfully, the two lawyers on this video make it quick and clear. 

In short, the EUA is still in effect. There is no FDA approval (biological license) for any available vaccine. There is medical debate over the similarity between the current Pfizer vaccine and the non-available one. If an FDA biological license is granted to any one of the vaccines, the EUA is dissolved for all of them. 

What is clear, is the media blitz to push something that is patently false. Questions still linger in my brain.

- Is it really an emergency after going on two years?
- If the vaccine mandate is legitimate, why not have Congress write the law? 
- With all this information available, why is the FDA not in court 24/7?

***This thread is dedicated to Mystic Wanderer. I hope she has a WiFi connection where ever she is. You are missed. 

So it`s still EUA  jab, and no  approved version available  . And Biden advertised it as approved on TV .....

FDA act like criminals, and is just helping big pharma/bill Gates etc

Who can even understand anymore all this mumbo jambo

If i understand , full licenced vaccine would require the manufacturer also give all ingredients
 but EUA not...but i dont know for sure

I dont see emergency, all the harm is done by not letting people have proper medical care, like giving ivermectin,and by forcing mask use , lockdowns ... FDA seems to not want that people get help.


I hope Mystic see this thread too .  She had allways good views on these issues .
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#3
Either he is literally fed lines, or is the most bald-faced liar I have ever seen.
"...full & final approval..."?
Who bought that?


"Good judgment comes from experience...
Experience...? Well, that comes from poor judgment."
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#4
What I can’t understand is how so many buy into it.

I saw some comments on a news post the other day where some woman was saying how she doesn’t trust the government but yet seemed to be angry at the people who haven’t gotten the jab. I guess she believed them when they said it was approved. So many do and refuse to even read about it and act like your crazy if you don’t believe the things they do.

Biden and the rest, the media, fda, they are all such liars.
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(09-14-2021, 02:47 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: Trying to get to the bottom of the latest "FDA approval" is a hot mess. I had a hard time understanding it. Thankfully, the two lawyers on this video make it quick and clear. 

In short, the EUA is still in effect. There is no FDA approval (biological license) for any available vaccine. There is medical debate over the similarity between the current Pfizer vaccine and the non-available one. If an FDA biological license is granted to any one of the vaccines, the EUA is dissolved for all of them. 

What is clear, is the media blitz to push something that is patently false. Questions still linger in my brain.

- Is it really an emergency after going on two years?
- If the vaccine mandate is legitimate, why not have Congress write the law? 
- With all this information available, why is the FDA not in court 24/7?

***This thread is dedicated to Mystic Wanderer. I hope she has a WiFi connection where ever she is. You are missed. 




It's my understanding that Congress cannot legally pass such a mandate, because SCOTUS has ruled repeatedly that only States can enact such a mandate, on a state by state basis, because not all localities are always affected the same.

All I can say for sure is that if anyone, anywhere, enacts such a mandate, they'd better mandate to bring bandages with them, because there are sure as hell gonna be injuries when they come for me, and not all those injuries are gonna be on my own tender corpus. I guess you could say they'd best plan on trading injuries when they come, mandate or not.

I'm a firm believer in the axiom that when someone tries to kill you, they are fair game to be killed right back.

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“The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people.”

-Aldous Huxley

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#6
It's all word play. "Approved" is not "Licensed".

It may be approved for the EUA. It can have full and final approval for that. But it doesn't mean squat. 

What's even better is they are telling some people (like the military) they have the licensed vaccine so they have to take it. However, that is not what they are getting jabbed in their arm. No one has got the licensed vaccine yet because it is not available. The experimental vaccine under the EUA is what they are getting jabbed with because Pfizer claims it is similar to the unavailable licensed one. 

Years from now (hopefully) Americans will look back on this like the Tuskegee Experiment or something.
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(09-14-2021, 11:54 PM)Ninurta Wrote:
(09-14-2021, 02:47 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: Trying to get to the bottom of the latest "FDA approval" is a hot mess. I had a hard time understanding it. Thankfully, the two lawyers on this video make it quick and clear. 

In short, the EUA is still in effect. There is no FDA approval (biological license) for any available vaccine. There is medical debate over the similarity between the current Pfizer vaccine and the non-available one. If an FDA biological license is granted to any one of the vaccines, the EUA is dissolved for all of them. 

What is clear, is the media blitz to push something that is patently false. Questions still linger in my brain.

- Is it really an emergency after going on two years?
- If the vaccine mandate is legitimate, why not have Congress write the law? 
- With all this information available, why is the FDA not in court 24/7?

***This thread is dedicated to Mystic Wanderer. I hope she has a WiFi connection where ever she is. You are missed. 




It's my understanding that Congress cannot legally pass such a mandate, because SCOTUS has ruled repeatedly that only States can enact such a mandate, on a state by state basis, because not all localities are always affected the same.

All I can say for sure is that if anyone, anywhere, enacts such a mandate, they'd better mandate to bring bandages with them, because there are sure as hell gonna be injuries when they come for me, and not all those injuries are gonna be on my own tender corpus. I guess you could say they'd best plan on trading injuries when they come, mandate or not.

I'm a firm believer in the axiom that when someone tries to kill you, they are fair game to be killed right back.

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Correct. There is no way this is Constitutional as-is. They know that. That's why all the confusing language. They are calling it a "Testing Mandate" when pressed. Doing so in hopes businesses unilaterally start requiring the experimental vaccine because it is cheaper than repeated testing.
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#8
(09-14-2021, 05:07 PM)VioletDove Wrote: What I can’t understand is how so many buy into it.

I saw some comments on a news post the other day where some woman was saying how she doesn’t trust the government but yet seemed to be angry at the people who haven’t gotten the jab. I guess she believed them when they said it was approved. So many do and refuse to even read about it and act like your crazy if you don’t believe the things they do.

Biden and the rest, the media, fda, they are all such liars.

You bring up a great point. They get away with this BS because people don't read. They don't dig. They don't parse distinctions. They simply regurgitate the emotions they are programmed to emote from the media. Sad.
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#9
(09-14-2021, 03:44 PM)Kenzo Wrote:
(09-14-2021, 02:47 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: Trying to get to the bottom of the latest "FDA approval" is a hot mess. I had a hard time understanding it. Thankfully, the two lawyers on this video make it quick and clear. 

In short, the EUA is still in effect. There is no FDA approval (biological license) for any available vaccine. There is medical debate over the similarity between the current Pfizer vaccine and the non-available one. If an FDA biological license is granted to any one of the vaccines, the EUA is dissolved for all of them. 

What is clear, is the media blitz to push something that is patently false. Questions still linger in my brain.

- Is it really an emergency after going on two years?
- If the vaccine mandate is legitimate, why not have Congress write the law? 
- With all this information available, why is the FDA not in court 24/7?

***This thread is dedicated to Mystic Wanderer. I hope she has a WiFi connection where ever she is. You are missed. 

So it`s still EUA  jab, and no  approved version available  . And Biden advertised it as approved on TV .....

FDA act like criminals, and is just helping big pharma/bill Gates etc

Who can even understand anymore all this mumbo jambo

If i understand , full licenced vaccine would require the manufacturer also give all ingredients
 but EUA not...but i dont know for sure

I dont see emergency, all the harm is done by not letting people have proper medical care, like giving ivermectin,and by  forcing mask use , lockdowns ... FDA seems to not want that people get help.


I hope Mystic see this thread too .  She had allways good views on these issues .

Her input will definitely be missed. 

I think she would approve of you calling them criminals  tinybiggrin
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#10
Now they are changing the names of the rona vaccines, the Moderna vaccine will be named SpikeVax, and the AstraZeneca vaccine will be named Vaxzevria


Not sure why ? Maybe they think new names sell more ...i think the names are horrible, Spikevax?  

All 3 Major “Jab Companies” Suddenly Have Name Changes for Their VVV Products
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#11
(Yesterday, 05:11 AM)Kenzo Wrote: Now they are changing the names of the rona vaccines, the Moderna vaccine will be named SpikeVax, and the AstraZeneca vaccine will be named Vaxzevria


Not sure why ? Maybe they think new names sell more ...i think the names are horrible, Spikevax?  

All 3 Major “Jab Companies” Suddenly Have Name Changes for Their VVV Products

Like there wasn't enough confusion in the matter already. They just want to continue to rape the situation they helped create.
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