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Going Galt
#1
The term "going Galt" comes from Ayn Rand's novel, "Atlas Shrugged". You may have heard the phrase "Who is John Galt?"... This is a recent communication I had:

Quote:What Do We Do Now? 

January 6th, 2021. We’re all well aware of the events that took place in Washington DC, but I think historians will remember it as the day America, as we know it, ended. 

A dark, new era has arrived. One where Capitalism is replaced with Socialism and Democracy gives way to Totalitarianism. Free and Fair elections are done. The Democrats have successful pulled off the Art of the Steal, and will continue to perfect it in every election. The Left now owns the government, media, tech, schools and healthcare, and there is no plan to give that power up, ever!

But what does the Left own exactly?

In order for the Left to take over the U.S., they needed to destroy a strong economy, wreck businesses and burn cities. What does that leave them with? A bitterly divided country with mountains of debt and an economy on life support. 

What Should We Do Now?

We must, “Go Galt”. 

Going Galt is a phrase taken from Atlas Shrugged. In that novel, the main character finds that the brilliant individuals of the world are simply vanishing. She eventually discovers that these titans of industry are leaving society and have formed a new community entirely separate from the world the socialists have taken over. Rather than let the socialists vampires leach off their intellect and ability, they voluntarily withdraw their talent from society in order to expedite the collapse. 

What if the new Socialist America could no longer extract your wealth, intellect and talent? What if Big Tech could no longer mine your personal data for ad revenue? What if Amazon no longer had you as a customer? What if you could systematically starve the beast?

Let’s Do It!

I’d like to introduce two ways we can “Go Galt”. Marketplace and Meetups

Marketplace: Online marketplaces are nothing new. We’ve got Facebook, Etsy, Ebay, Amazon, etc., but all these marketplaces benefit Zuck and Bezzo types. Not only that, but they can censor speech and restrict sales (redacted).

What if we created a simple marketplace (redacted) that let you buy and sell with others who refuse to support Socialist America? 

Would you use that? (redacted)

Meetups: Let’s say that once a month likeminded individuals from your area got together in person at a park or restaurant. The goal was to meet, find people you really connect with and form tribes. These large groups could share knowledge, train or simply barter goods and services, but the tribes would be closer knit groups that might come together in an SHTF event to try and ride out tough times. 

(redacted)

Going Galt

The system is collapsing, whether you participate or not. If you continue to contribute your talents and intellect, the system will feed off you like a vampire until they have killed you. Or, your could make a choice to walk away. Leave the cities and suburbs. Form tribes and communities that don’t use the dollar. Build a self-sustained system that values the country our founders envisioned and not this new Socialist America we now find ourselves in. 

Will you Go Galt?

The redactions are due to efforts already underway and being organized as we speak. No sense in telling the bastards where to look to find them.


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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#2
Explanation: I AM SPARTACUS!!! ...

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Personal Disclosure: errrr cough cough John Galt!

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OL at beez - "Here, if you have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and I have a straw. There it is, it's a straw, you see? Watch it. Now my straw reaches across the room and starts to drink your milkshake. I... drink... your... milkshake. I drink it up!"

Do not engage in useless activity ... and ... from one thing, know many things!

Think Globally, Act Locally, Feel Internally ... Wash, Rinse, Dry and Repeat!

It's Just A Ride!
#3
(01-18-2021, 05:38 AM)OmegaLogos Wrote: Explanation: I AM SPARTACUS!!! ...

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Personal Disclosure: errrr cough cough John Galt!

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#4
It's not a perfect solution, not yet, but it's a start.

For example, farmers must pay their land taxes, else the government sends men with guns to take it. This means that no one truly owns anything at all, we just rent it from the government. Refuse to pay that rent, and see how fast you get evicted. So, farmers would have to send a certain amount of their produce to cities, just enough to cover their tax burdens. No one can barter with government to pay their taxes... or can they? That depends entirely on how your local government can be persuaded to feel about it, I suppose.

If you have no income, then of course the Federal and State governments cannot tax you on income you do not have. How does government tax a beet? What monetary value does it have when it's just bartered? How do they fill out your tax forms for you? "Johnny traded 5 beets for a slab of stone for his walkway"?

If you do not buy things that are manufactured in cities or overseas, then they will have to find their income elsewhere. Rural folks have it all over city folks in that regard - we can, mostly, live without things they produce, but they cannot live without the food we produce. If they think they can, then more power to them - we'll do just fine, Jack, at small local farmer's markets.

More importantly, they will have to find the tax revenue to keep up their urban useless eaters elsewhere. How long do you suppose hungry urbanites will continue to support their Fearless Leaders? Things might get a little rough there, but it IS exactly what they asked for!

Industry will start going back overseas the instant BidenHarris start to onerously tax them, and that is coming. When industry returns overseas, it takes jobs with it, and that will further reduce the income tax signature of the People government is leeching from. Social media and Legacy Media, champions of the Socialists, will watch revenue fall when no one uses them any more, and so if their revenue falls, so will their tax payments to the government. If they no longer have an income tax from the Proletariat, because the Proletariat no longer makes any money, whatever WILL they do for taxes?

Some belts may have to be tightened, preferably around their necks.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#5
(01-18-2021, 05:33 AM)Ninurta Wrote: The term "going Galt" comes from Ayn Rand's novel, "Atlas Shrugged". You may have heard the phrase "Who is John Galt?"... This is a recent communication I had:

Quote:What Do We Do Now? 

January 6th, 2021. We’re all well aware of the events that took place in Washington DC, but I think historians will remember it as the day America, as we know it, ended. 

A dark, new era has arrived. One where Capitalism is replaced with Socialism and Democracy gives way to Totalitarianism. Free and Fair elections are done. The Democrats have successful pulled off the Art of the Steal, and will continue to perfect it in every election. The Left now owns the government, media, tech, schools and healthcare, and there is no plan to give that power up, ever!

But what does the Left own exactly?

In order for the Left to take over the U.S., they needed to destroy a strong economy, wreck businesses and burn cities. What does that leave them with? A bitterly divided country with mountains of debt and an economy on life support. 

What Should We Do Now?

We must, “Go Galt”. 

Going Galt is a phrase taken from Atlas Shrugged. In that novel, the main character finds that the brilliant individuals of the world are simply vanishing. She eventually discovers that these titans of industry are leaving society and have formed a new community entirely separate from the world the socialists have taken over. Rather than let the socialists vampires leach off their intellect and ability, they voluntarily withdraw their talent from society in order to expedite the collapse. 

What if the new Socialist America could no longer extract your wealth, intellect and talent? What if Big Tech could no longer mine your personal data for ad revenue? What if Amazon no longer had you as a customer? What if you could systematically starve the beast?

Let’s Do It!

I’d like to introduce two ways we can “Go Galt”. Marketplace and Meetups

Marketplace: Online marketplaces are nothing new. We’ve got Facebook, Etsy, Ebay, Amazon, etc., but all these marketplaces benefit Zuck and Bezzo types. Not only that, but they can censor speech and restrict sales (redacted).

What if we created a simple marketplace (redacted) that let you buy and sell with others who refuse to support Socialist America? 

Would you use that? (redacted)

Meetups: Let’s say that once a month likeminded individuals from your area got together in person at a park or restaurant. The goal was to meet, find people you really connect with and form tribes. These large groups could share knowledge, train or simply barter goods and services, but the tribes would be closer knit groups that might come together in an SHTF event to try and ride out tough times. 

(redacted)

Going Galt

The system is collapsing, whether you participate or not. If you continue to contribute your talents and intellect, the system will feed off you like a vampire until they have killed you. Or, your could make a choice to walk away. Leave the cities and suburbs. Form tribes and communities that don’t use the dollar. Build a self-sustained system that values the country our founders envisioned and not this new Socialist America we now find ourselves in. 

Will you Go Galt?

The redactions are due to efforts already underway and being organized as we speak. No sense in telling the bastards where to look to find them.


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I have been doing this for a few years now trying to stay under the radar.  I am not on social media and I buy from local sources when I can.  This new world is just sad.  I just don't know who to talk to anymore.  That's why I came here.
#6
A bit OT, but people have seen the first stage of control, steel the vote, news controlled, social media controlled. Now one has to look to Sweden to see the next move. Banks in Sweden have closed bank accounts of news papers that have all the permits and fully legal because they are seen as "right wing".
So next is your bank account closed or restricted, your phone provider closing your phone account. 
Dont even start thing about your power and water.
With power like this "going Galt " will have no effect at all on the government, same as it would have no effect on any sodalist state.
#7
I have been encouraging people for over twenty years to be more self sufficient and less dependent on government. I never thought of it as going Galt, but I guess there are some similarities.

I could see the handwriting on the wall. Spending as much time as I did with pre-teens and teens, I could see how a life of entitlement was not preparing them for a life where they would never be able do as well as their parents, and would always be reliant on parents or government in their future.

I tried to encourage teens to by-pass all those wasted years, and money, seeking a college degree, that would likely just be apiece of paper they, and the five hundred other people, would be holding in their hands, while standing in line for that job at the burger joint. I tried to encourage them to learn skills that would at least increase their chances of finding work, or improve their chances of being able to work for themselves.

Your average teen will not consider a job if they have to get their hands dirty. They want to sit behind desks and just wait for lunch and the time to punch out. For them rules are not meant to be broken, they just don't pertain to them. I know it sounds like I am ragging on teens, much the way every older generation has done in the past. I don't blame the young people that have fallen victim in this trap.

They have been set up by a society that has been grooming them for life under the control of their masters.They really aren't spending much time or energy on us old folks. It is not worth it. Our time is short, so it benefits them to humor and tolerate us for now. Going self sufficient or going Galt, has to be something we teach the children.

There will only be a few that will listen, and even fewer that will be committed, but I guess in a way that is a good thing, since it will be the lack of numbers that would make the effort successful.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#8
(01-18-2021, 02:46 PM)Wallfire Wrote: A bit OT, but people have seen the first stage of control, steel the vote, news controlled, social media controlled. Now one has to look to Sweden to see the next move. Banks in Sweden have closed bank accounts of news papers that have all the permits and fully legal because they are seen as "right wing".
So next is your bank account closed or restricted, your phone provider closing your phone account. 
Dont even start thing about your power and water.
With power like this "going Galt " will have no effect at all on the government, same as it would have no effect on any sodalist state.

Before that, the government took loans against the country's social security fund ... effectively collapsing it.

To get even, we're going to have to look back in time, and find all those sneaky decision makers and great idea people.  Then, without getting all emotional about it, kill everyone with the family name ... everyone who took a dime of that money, and all of their people.

The next thing Biden's folks are gonna go after are government employee 401Ks and pensions.  You watch.
'Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks
They're gonna send you back to Mother in a cardboard box
You better run!
#9
(01-18-2021, 03:45 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: I have been encouraging people for over twenty years to be more self sufficient and less dependent on government. I never thought of it as going Galt, but I guess there are some similarities.

I could see the handwriting on the wall. Spending as much time as I did with pre-teens and teens, I could see how a life of entitlement was not preparing them for a life where they would never be able do as well as their parents, and would always be reliant on parents or government in their future.

I tried to encourage teens to by-pass all those wasted years, and money, seeking a college degree, that would likely just be apiece of paper they, and the five hundred other people, would be holding in their hands, while standing in line for that job at the burger joint. I tried to encourage them to learn skills that would at least increase their chances of finding work, or improve their chances of being able to work for themselves.

Your average teen will not consider a job if they have to get their hands dirty. They want to sit behind desks and just wait for lunch and the time to punch out. For them rules are not meant to be broken, they just don't pertain to them. I know it sounds like I am ragging on teens, much the way every older generation has done in the past. I don't blame the young people that have fallen victim in this trap.

They have been set up by a society that has been grooming them for life under the control of their masters.They really aren't spending much time or energy on us old folks. It is not worth it. Our time is short, so it benefits them to humor and tolerate us for now. Going self sufficient or going Galt, has to be something we teach the children.

There will only be a few that will listen, and even fewer that will be committed, but I guess in a way that is a good thing, since it will be the lack of numbers that would make the effort successful.
You make a very good point. The problem is in Europe the mass influx of very low IQ people. This means that the classic apprentice training has been lowered to a point that its of no use in the real world. The need for foremen to read the instructions to the workers and show them how to do the job is just unbelievable. Considering that ME countries and Africans has an IQ of about 60-70, in Sweden they are now running into groups of Sudanese that have an IQ 50 and below. Its got to a point that IQ cannot be measured its so low.
If the crap hits the fan who is going to look after these people. Do we just leave them to starve, as there is no way they can survive without the whole "real" culture of the country supporting them.
What happens when it goes "Galt".
Do we watch these groups of low IQ starve and freeze to death ? remember if you use a Galt system there is no room for useless people, everyone must bring something to the table, not just take, take, take from it.
No easy answer.
It seems it will be survival of the best working together.
#10
(01-18-2021, 05:15 PM)Wallfire Wrote: Considering that ME countries and Africans has an IQ of about 60-70, in Sweden they are now running into groups of Sudanese that have an IQ 50 and below. Its got to a point that IQ cannot be measured its so low.

Q: Who didn't see that as a problem?  Q: Who would do that? A: People intent on bringing a nation to its knees.

(01-18-2021, 05:15 PM)Wallfire Wrote: What happens when it goes "Galt".
Do we watch these groups of low IQ starve and freeze to death ? remember if you use a Galt system there is no room for useless people, everyone must bring something to the table, not just take, take, take from it.
No easy answer.

You just gave us the solution.   tinybighuh

(01-18-2021, 05:15 PM)Wallfire Wrote: It seems it will be survival of the best working together.

Or the dispassionate, who will do unto others before they can do unto me.
'Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks
They're gonna send you back to Mother in a cardboard box
You better run!
#11
(01-18-2021, 02:14 PM)PuppupSuzieQ Wrote: I have been doing this for a few years now trying to stay under the radar.  I am not on social media and I buy from local sources when I can.  This new world is just sad.  I just don't know who to talk to anymore.  That's why I came here.

Well you've come to the right place!

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#12
(01-18-2021, 02:46 PM)Wallfire Wrote: A bit OT, but people have seen the first stage of control, steel the vote, news controlled, social media controlled. Now one has to look to Sweden to see the next move. Banks in Sweden have closed bank accounts of news papers that have all the permits and fully legal because they are seen as "right wing".
So next is your bank account closed or restricted, your phone provider closing your phone account. 
Dont even start thing about your power and water.
With power like this "going Galt " will have no effect at all on the government, same as it would have no effect on any sodalist state.

Because of banks, power companies and phone companies? I'm not sure I follow you - If we are no longer using or supporting them, why would we care that they are no longer using or supporting us?

I stopped feeding the credit card companies in 1993. I don't use credit at all, and what's more, I don't even miss it. I closed my bank accounts in 2008, and I don't miss them, either. I have a phone that I never use, so I can't imagine missing it, either. I do still use electricity, but I grew up without it, and know that I won't miss it much, either. If it was something I just had to have, I don't see why I couldn't put up a couple of windmills or a water turbine in the stream to generate enough for my own use - some folks here have done that and generate more than they need, and have a surplus to sell to the power company.

So I'm not understanding why or how removing their power over me gives them more power over me?

It affects the government because fewer people using their "services", and especially fewer people contributing to their "services" put a bigger burden on them to maintain themselves without our support. It can't help but have a negative effect on them, but that is their own damned fault for growing themselves beyond their own abilities. In making themselves "indispensable", they have created the need to dispense with them until they are back down to a manageable level.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#13
(01-18-2021, 03:45 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: I have been encouraging people for over twenty years to be more self sufficient and less dependent on government. I never thought of it as going Galt, but I guess there are some similarities.

I could see the handwriting on the wall. Spending as much time as I did with pre-teens and teens, I could see how a life of entitlement was not preparing them for a life where they would never be able do as well as their parents, and would always be reliant on parents or government in their future.

I tried to encourage teens to by-pass all those wasted years, and money, seeking a college degree, that would likely just be apiece of paper they, and the five hundred other people, would be holding in their hands, while standing in line for that job at the burger joint. I tried to encourage them to learn skills that would at least increase their chances of finding work, or improve their chances of being able to work for themselves.

Your average teen will not consider a job if they have to get their hands dirty. They want to sit behind desks and just wait for lunch and the time to punch out. For them rules are not meant to be broken, they just don't pertain to them. I know it sounds like I am ragging on teens, much the way every older generation has done in the past. I don't blame the young people that have fallen victim in this trap.

They have been set up by a society that has been grooming them for life under the control of their masters.They really aren't spending much time or energy on us old folks. It is not worth it. Our time is short, so it benefits them to humor and tolerate us for now. Going self sufficient or going Galt, has to be something we teach the children.

There will only be a few that will listen, and even fewer that will be committed, but I guess in a way that is a good thing, since it will be the lack of numbers that would make the effort successful.

You are correct. They have been groomed for dependency, and to believe that the world owes them a living starting at the top of the food chain. I can tell you first hand that I lost count of the number of kids fresh out of high school who did not understand why they couldn't just walk into a company and seize the job of Executive Vice President right off the street as was due them. And that was in an office environment, where NO ONE had to crawl in the mud to do their job, everyone had a desk of their own, a computer of their own, a phone of their own, heat in the winter, A/C in the summer, and no one had to exert themselves at all beyond the long and apparently arduous walk from the front door to their desk. We seriously had a problem with kids coming in, going through the training period where they didn't have to do anything at all but sit and listen and collect a check, and then they would quit the day they had to go out and sit at that desk and talk and shuffle some paper.

I seriously had a few tell me that they didn't see why they couldn't do MY job as manager. I told 'em that hell, as far as I could see, they couldn't even do theirs, much less mine. If they couldn't do their job, how could they tell a whole herd of folks doing that job how to do it?

I had one married couple - or something like married, anyhow - tell me that they did not see how I made it without Grace working. Both of them were working, making maybe 2 bucks less an hour than me, and they were struggling. So I tried to explain to them that living within you means produces less anxiety, and asked them what kind of bills they had. Well! They each had a 1500 dollar cell phone and the monthly bills to go along with that, each had a brand new car and the monthly credit bills to go along with that, and as the list of bills and credit payments unfolded, I could see why they were struggling. I, on the other hand, had a 100 dollar cell phone, and paid for service by the month, no contract that obligated me to continue paying an exorbitant amount every month whether I used it or not, I drove an old jeep that I had paid 600 bucks cash for, and paid off that instant, so no bills there, either, etc. They just shook their head and walked away sad at the realization that if they didn't want to struggle so much, they had to quit throwing money away to credit companies for crap they did not need.

So they are being groomed to keep the credit economy on life support, too. Me, on the other hand, I cannot see the sense in making rich people richer by just GIVING them my money for nothing. If they have enough money to loan ME money, at robbery rates, then why would I just GIVE them my own money to make them richer? Instead, I'll look for deals and save my pennies until I have enough to get what I want outright, with no further payments attached.

We had a high turnover rate among the younger folks, They had apparently been raised and educated to believe that they should get a pay check just for existing, and when they found they had to actually do something to merit that paycheck, they lost interest and moved on. I don't know of any of those who ever found that free money. Some thought they could make their own hours and show up when they pleased and stay out when they pleased, and get the same size check either way. Those I moved on without them moving on. I didn't need them if they weren't doing what they were paid to do, and of course they couldn't do it if they didn't even bother to show up to do it.

So "the system" is setting up to perpetuate itself, but there is a fatal flaw in it's calculations. There are unintended consequences. How does it give away all the "free stuff" when no one is working to produce it for the system to seize and "redistribute equitably"? If it trains all it's workers to think everything is free for nothing, and they take that to heart and just stop working so they can spend free money or collect free stuff, where is that stuff supposed to come from? Some kids have told me "robots will make it".

So who will make the robots?

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#14
For Galt to work to affect a government it has to work big time. Now for must people to survive wile trying to set Galt up they will need phone, water, power and bank account. 
If Galt starts to get dangerous for the government they will start cutting services to people and blaming it on Galt. turning people agenst Galt.
I go back to the troubles, in an IRA strong hold the IRA destroyed a large telephone exchange leaving a whole area without phones. Now the government phone company set up an mobile phone exchange but said in the news papers and TV that if this exchange was damaged they would not replace it leaving the people with out phones. It was never damaged. 
So a telephone company controlled a terrorist's group, something the police and army could not do. People needed there phone lines, and the IRA knew they would lose massive support if they attacked the exchange again.
Take away peoples phone, bank account water and power and blame  Galt, Galt will not survive very long, the people will destroy Galt
#15
(01-18-2021, 05:15 PM)Wallfire Wrote: You make a very good point. The problem is in Europe the mass influx of very low IQ people. This means that the classic apprentice training has been lowered to a point that its of no use in the real world. The need for foremen to read the instructions to the workers and show them how to do the job is just unbelievable. Considering that ME countries and Africans has an IQ of about 60-70, in Sweden they are now running into groups of Sudanese that have an IQ 50 and below. Its got to a point that IQ cannot be measured its so low.
If the crap hits the fan who is going to look after these people. Do we just leave them to starve, as there is no way they can survive without the whole "real" culture of the country supporting them.
What happens when it goes "Galt".

They either swim, or they sink. I have noticed, just over my lifetime, that the quality of the human animal has been going down hill. Folks are being artificially kept alive nowadays that, a generation or two ago, would have died and been removed from the gene pool by nature itself. Due to that, the overall quality of the human beast has been degrading, and that degradation has been accelerating as more and more of those defective genes have been retained in the gene pool. It's not just the intelligence factor, but even physical factors. I'm not talking eugenics here, I'm talking about just letting nature take it's course. For example, most warning labels are made just to keep imbeciles from reaping the natural rewards of their imbecility. "Don't eat this, don't do that with this product" - if they are unintelligent enough to do those things, why do we want them to propagate? It only reduces the overall quality and ability of the species. Eventually, the "too dumb to live" will outnumber the fit to survive, and the species will be in danger of extinction when there are no longer enough minds bright enough to write out the warning labels that keep the rest alive. Probably at that point, the species SHOULD go extinct. By them, it is no longer fit for survival, and nature will ALWAYS win in the end.

Maybe I'm heartless, but then so is Mother Nature. She don't care at all, and will kill you in a heartbeat with no remorse whatsoever.

Quote:Do we watch these groups of low IQ starve and freeze to death ? remember if you use a Galt system there is no room for useless people, everyone must bring something to the table, not just take, take, take from it.
No easy answer.
It seems it will be survival of the best working together.

I don't know about you, but I'm not going to have time to waste to watch them starve. they can starve without my supervision. I have other things to do. Yes, everyone must have something to bring to the table, but that "something" is not always obvious until someone MAKES it obvious. Just two generations ago, everyone here had something to bring to the table, and we made it work. If a kid was old enough to walk, there was something they could do to contribute. If a grandparent or great grandparent was too old to walk, there were still things THEY could do to contribute, too. It was not uncommon here to have 4 generations of people living in the same house, all contributing to the good of the family, "the common weal". If a man got injured and couldn't work for a while, his neighbors pitched in to help him until he was back on his feet, because they all knew he would do the same for them.

When I was a teenager, I helped my dad build entire additions for old folks in the neighborhood, and he never charged them a dime. We would go and tear down steps, and rebuild them with shorter risers because as people get older, they can't step as high, and it made it easier for the old folks to get in and out without injuring themselves. Never charged a dime. BUT - if we needed something they had, even just information on how to do something we didn't know yet, we knew where to go to find out... and they never charged us a dime for the education, either.

If I killed more than we could eat, there was always someone around who could make use of it... and they did the same. I used to hang out with an old guy who never saw a sober day the entire time I knew him, but that old fart taught me quite a lot about how to feed myself, and that knowledge occasionally fed him, too. Not just how to hunt particular animals, but which plants I could eat and which would kill me, which medicinal plants were good for various ailments, that sort of thing. When he got down and couldn't get around to get his own, I was the labor pool, and could get him what he needed, but only because he had already taught me what to look for. I tried to return the value he had already delivered to me. It was only fair.

That sort of thing doesn't happen much any more. We have been herded into a monetary economy where someone else controls OUR economy, and always for their own benefit. If the human race is to survive, it's going to have to stop thinking in financial terms.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see if it ever does.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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(01-18-2021, 07:45 PM)Wallfire Wrote: For Galt to work to affect a government it has to work big time. Now for must people to survive wile trying to set Galt up they will need phone, water, power and bank account. 

I'm still not following. WHY would Galt need those government or corporate services if Galt is providing for itself? that's kind of the whole idea behind Galt - the community does for itself, forces government to do for ITSELF. If you are still accepting socialistic government services at all, you're doing it wrong.

It's the same idea as is behind Parler and Gab - just stop using their tainted crap and create your own. Starve the beast that is trying to kill you by ignoring it and no longer contributing to it's revenue.

Quote:If Galt starts to get dangerous for the government they will start cutting services to people and blaming it on Galt. turning people agenst Galt.

How are they to cut off services they are not providing to begin with?

Quote:I go back to the troubles, in an IRA strong hold the IRA destroyed a large telephone exchange leaving a whole area without phones. Now the government phone company set up an mobile phone exchange but said in the news papers and TV that if this exchange was damaged they would not replace it leaving the people with out phones. It was never damaged. 

That only worked because those folks were accepting government services to begin with. They had not "gone Galt".

Quote:So a telephone company controlled a terrorist's group, something the police and army could not do. People needed there phone lines, and the IRA knew they would lose massive support if they attacked the exchange again.
Take away peoples phone, bank account water and power and blame  Galt, Galt will not survive very long, the people will destroy Galt

And again, how do you take away from them what they don't have to begin with? How do the people destroy Galt without destroying themselves, for Galt IS The People. I'm not talking here about blowing up telephone exchanges or power substations - I'm talking about just not using them any more, and letting them rust down under their own weight. If folks still want them, they will be there to be used, just as the providers are using the people who use them. there will just be fewer subscribers, forcing the providers to work a little bit more, reduce their profit margins to account for the reduced revenue, or flounder. If they flounder, who cares? They flounder because no one is left using their service, and if no one is using their service, how is it's disappearance going to hurt people not taking advantage of it to begin with?

"Going Galt" is not an act of overt violence. it is the ultimate extension of Ghandi's "Civil Disobedience" writ large. It is withdrawing from the Machine, refusing to interact with it, neither feeding it nor feeding from it, and letting it eat itself until it is starved down to a more manageable level.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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Explanation: I am just going to leave this picture here ...

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Personal Disclosure: I am not bound by any laws ... I am only bound by my nature ... and for better or worse ... I CAN take on a whole commie Gov IF I wanted to.

Yeah OL .. you and whose army?

Oh me and my BIOWARFARE army and possibly even my Drone army OK!

I would focus on the weak points of transporting food and water to cities etc.

Within the month the commies would cave in due to ... oh thats right ... being dead!

Why? Oh they only have 3 days food and water supply lines! Disrupt that and hey presto ... I WIN!!!

Fight smarter not harder!

minusculebeercheers
OL at beez - "Here, if you have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and I have a straw. There it is, it's a straw, you see? Watch it. Now my straw reaches across the room and starts to drink your milkshake. I... drink... your... milkshake. I drink it up!"

Do not engage in useless activity ... and ... from one thing, know many things!

Think Globally, Act Locally, Feel Internally ... Wash, Rinse, Dry and Repeat!

It's Just A Ride!
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(01-18-2021, 08:49 PM)OmegaLogos Wrote: I would focus on the weak points of transporting food and water to cities etc.

Within the month the commies would cave in due to ... oh thats right ... being dead!

Why? Oh they only have 3 days food and water supply lines! Disrupt that and hey presto ... I WIN!!!

Fight smarter not harder!

minusculebeercheers

Why fight at all and risk breaking one of your own fingernails when you can just stop feeding them and let them fight themselves?

Just send them enough food to get the money to cover your own local tax burden, and let them fight over what gets in to their cities.

I guess maybe I'm too vindictive. I've never been one to think a commie deserves a quick and painless death if it can be made lingering and miserable. After all, that IS what they do to us, and one good turn deserves another!

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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I wouldn't doubt that even Farmers Markets become illegal, or already have
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(01-18-2021, 10:24 PM)PLOTUS Wrote: I wouldn't doubt that even Farmers Markets become illegal, or already have
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Why would we ask permission?

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’




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