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Stimulus checks
#1
It seems there's two ways of looking at this, or ? maybe three ways. Hell, correct me, and choose the 'ways'.  As a citizen, I have a right, more an obligation to recognize the Real issues we face here at the end of the year 2020, a rather infamous year. This really should be dedicated to Murphy as in murphy's law. And we have had a powerful dose of it. Politicians have been their usual negligent selves, taking care of themselves and putting the rest/us citizens out to dry. 
Of course the politicians have lives of considerable ease and also of luxury. It ought to outrage the average citizen, and my guess.... it pretty much does. Even those who know the honest to god truth.... we can NOT afford it. As it stands with say 250 million people eligible for the stimulus it works out with those numbers at *$600* it's a cost of only one hundred and fifty Billion dollars..........$150,000,000,000  ...Billion and at the *$1200.00* stimulus check rate it is a Three Hundred Billion dollars $300,000,000,000  ...Billion.  Pretty Simple Math.

Considering the national debt, we owe Twenty seven Trillion dollars. The count as of October 30 2020. The couple months up to date negligible but additional if stimulus is enacted, which is in todays news as having passed. The truth is, we can not afford our National Debt, nor can future generations who have done little or nothing in the way of making this tab... As far as Stimulus, were just tossing another unfathomable amount on the national debt. So.... just who's  going to pay this. Oil's not important, so wars in the middle east are out. No revenue there... oooooops... we may of spent more than we can pay back....imagine that ?
The National occupation, spending money. Especially other peoples money.
 I think we all know that we as a people can ill afford these ways of spending with an inexhaustible supply of Greenbacks.

And the politicians are hanging on to the stimulus as though it was their own private federal reserve bank. Stingy, pocket padding parasites.  Would you like the $600 stimulus ? I know it sounds tempting to go for, same as the last one. But pointing out the magnitude of our debt, we are on a collision course with Fate and poverty. The politicians mindset is what gripes me the most.... like they are doing us such a great thing doling out Half.....

I fear we are heading for a Reckoning, one the likes of, the world has never seen, ever. It will be worldwide and at the present going full steam Covid19.
Any thoughts ?
#2
Quote:@PLOTUS

Any thoughts?


Explanation: HELL YES!

In a FIAT economy there is no limit on the cash supply ... it is INFINITE .... just print the goddamed money and be done with it.

Don't borrow it at all ... JUST PRINT IT OK!

Personal Disclosure: Here is some info on that ...

$ 9 Trillion Story: 22% of the Circulating USD Printed in 2020

So there is that method of fixing the problem eh!

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Further reading ...

Zero Sum Game (economics)

Money Burning (economics)


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OL at beez - "Here, if you have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and I have a straw. There it is, it's a straw, you see? Watch it. Now my straw reaches across the room and starts to drink your milkshake. I... drink... your... milkshake. I drink it up!"

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#3
Meh. I'll never see that 600 bucks, so they can blithely pass all the crap they want to in DC - it won't reach me. I'm still waiting for the first "stimulus check". Hell, I'm still waiting for the BUSH stimulus check!

So I don't much care what they do in DC anymore. They're spending the nation into oblivion, and none of that ever filters down to me. Bet they come knocking at the door without fail when the bill is due, though. But, since I never got any of it to spend, I feel no compulsion to pay any of it back.

The politicians can pay it back - they spent it... somewhere...

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#4
Certainly if one gains then another must lose, except for positioning with unlimited funds. With unlimited funds money value decreases with no backing. The greater the amount, the less it's worth. Anything else is an illusion of value. Non-tangible wealth., or that with no backing or collateral.

A great many are not aware of the mechanics of wealth. and I'm no wizard either. But a great many simply have no understanding in economics
#5
They close down small businesses and refuse to help people for how long now? Six months? And now they send out a measly $600 to each qualifying person?

It's like...  

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It might buy some gas and a few groceries for a few weeks, but what about rent? This won't cover most people's rent or mortgage payment.
I'm glad my house is paid in full! 

For those people who lived pay day to pay day, they are the ones hurting the most. They are the ones who will soon be on the street, if they aren't already.

If Biden gets in the WH, this is what it will be like living under Socialism. I think they are getting the public prepared to live on crumbs off the sidewalks.
#6
@PLOTUS 


Quote:With unlimited funds money value decreases with no backing.

Explanation: CORRECT! With INFINITE money supply the $ is WORTHLESS ... so its not about reality anymore ... its about perceived value.

Personal Disclosure: And they dont really care about us!


OL at beez - "Here, if you have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and I have a straw. There it is, it's a straw, you see? Watch it. Now my straw reaches across the room and starts to drink your milkshake. I... drink... your... milkshake. I drink it up!"

Do not engage in useless activity ... and ... from one thing, know many things!

Think Globally, Act Locally, Feel Internally ... Wash, Rinse, Dry and Repeat!

It's Just A Ride!
#7
Yeah I did the math on another site.

Lock down started on March 15th. They put everyone's life on hold. They suckered us in with the lie of flattening the curve, and telling us it would only be for fourteen days. 

We believed because they kept programming us with hourly/daily reports of people dying all over the world and that we had to isolate or die. 

They had to calm us down. They continued the programming with a constant reminder of a new normal, and had to bribe us into believing they really cared about us. They were from the government and they were here to help. So they grudgingly sent out $1200.00 to a large number of the populace.

So here we are, 10 months in, and they once again throw scrapes to the dogs from the table. So let us see. 

10 months $1200 plus $600 equals $1800.00.
10 months divided into $1800.00 equal $180.00.
One month is four weeks.
4 weeks into $180.00 equals $45.00

So there you have it. And remember many won't even get that. So our masters are either out of touch with reality, or they think we are so stupid that we can't see how we are being used and how we are being played. 

There is no doubt they don't give a damn about us, but think we are supposed to trust them.

Oh yeah, and we are supposed to believe that they care so much for their dogs that they made a miracle vaccine, at warp speed, to save us, while we starve to death off their scraps.

So forgive me for being cynical.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#8
Opps!

Blame the cat. Enoch walked on the keyboard.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#9
Don't know how accurate this is, but I have found other sites that state the same thing.
https://www.axios.com/world-total-debt-l...b629f.html
Basically, this could be The Big Reset I have been hearing about. 

The whole world is broke.

minusculebonker

Oh, and it took them this long to figure out how to give you your own money back.
#10
A pittance to the peasants.  As others have already stated, it's a slap in the face, and won't make a shit of difference for those living paycheck to paycheck.  We're all entitled to WORK, and they've even taken that away from many people.  I'm grateful to have been working through this whole plandemic.
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(12-21-2020, 11:33 PM)Tarzan the apeman. Wrote: Don't know how accurate this is, but I have found other sites that state the same thing.
https://www.axios.com/world-total-debt-l...b629f.html
Basically, this could be The Big Reset I have been hearing about. 

The whole world is broke.

minusculebonker

Oh, and it took them this long to figure out how to give you your own money back.

World debt at 253 TRILLION? 322% of world GDP? I ain't even worried about the debt - I wanna know who had that kind of money to lend out to create that debt!

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#12
They should give every Citizen $6000 not 600  tinylaughing

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(12-22-2020, 02:31 AM)xuenchen Wrote: They should give every Citizen $6000 not 600  tinylaughing

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Likely to be eventually be the cost for groceries.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#14
Quote:$900B COVID-19 Aid Bill Will Give Illegal Aliens $1,800 Checks While U.S. Citizens Get Only $600
Quote:The bipartisan $900 billion coronavirus aid bill is just one giant F-you to American taxpayers.


"Family members of unauthorized immigrants are now eligible to get stimulus checks under the $900 billion deal reached last night," the Wall Street Journal's Michelle Hackman reported Monday. "That eligibility is retroactive, so adults excluded last time could get up to $1800 now."
Source

Yes, Read It And WEEP Peasant's, you are Citizen,,,,, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO You are Not Worthy!
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#15
(12-22-2020, 03:29 AM)guohua Wrote:
Quote:$900B COVID-19 Aid Bill Will Give Illegal Aliens $1,800 Checks While U.S. Citizens Get Only $600
Quote:The bipartisan $900 billion coronavirus aid bill is just one giant F-you to American taxpayers.


"Family members of unauthorized immigrants are now eligible to get stimulus checks under the $900 billion deal reached last night," the Wall Street Journal's Michelle Hackman reported Monday. "That eligibility is retroactive, so adults excluded last time could get up to $1800 now."
Source

Yes, Read It And WEEP Peasant's, you are Citizen,,,,, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO You are Not Worthy!

I know it will take too much effort for enough people to be motivated to recall as many as we can, but if we don't vote every damn one of them out of office then there just is no hope for us.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#16
(12-22-2020, 03:29 AM)guohua Wrote:
Quote:$900B COVID-19 Aid Bill Will Give Illegal Aliens $1,800 Checks While U.S. Citizens Get Only $600
Quote:The bipartisan $900 billion coronavirus aid bill is just one giant F-you to American taxpayers.


"Family members of unauthorized immigrants are now eligible to get stimulus checks under the $900 billion deal reached last night," the Wall Street Journal's Michelle Hackman reported Monday. "That eligibility is retroactive, so adults excluded last time could get up to $1800 now."
Source

Yes, Read It And WEEP Peasant's, you are Citizen,,,,, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO You are Not Worthy!

I'll bet you dollars against donuts that I still see neither of the payments. Maybe I need to sneak into Mexico, and then sneak back into the US...

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#17
(12-22-2020, 03:43 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(12-22-2020, 03:29 AM)guohua Wrote:
Quote:$900B COVID-19 Aid Bill Will Give Illegal Aliens $1,800 Checks While U.S. Citizens Get Only $600
Quote:The bipartisan $900 billion coronavirus aid bill is just one giant F-you to American taxpayers.


"Family members of unauthorized immigrants are now eligible to get stimulus checks under the $900 billion deal reached last night," the Wall Street Journal's Michelle Hackman reported Monday. "That eligibility is retroactive, so adults excluded last time could get up to $1800 now."
Source

Yes, Read It And WEEP Peasant's, you are Citizen,,,,, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO You are Not Worthy!

I know it will take too much effort for enough people to be motivated to recall as many as we can, but if we don't vote every damn one of them out of office then there just is no hope for us.

I suppose it is a pay back to the illegal's for Voting Biden/Harris,,,, OH Wait,,, illegal's can't Vote   tinysure Except they can in America.
Once A Rogue, Always A Rogue!
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#18
Politicians will pat themselves on their backs and celebrate the 600 dollars but ignore that it was their own actions that caused people to lose their livelihoods, their life savings.

I wish throat-punching was an appropriate and legal way of showing disgust.
"I be ridin' they be hatin'."
-Abraham Lincoln
#19
(12-23-2020, 12:43 AM)beez Wrote: Politicians will pat themselves on their backs and celebrate the 600 dollars but ignore that it was their own actions that caused people to lose their livelihoods, their life savings.

I wish throat-punching was an appropriate and legal way of showing disgust.


I must say, I'm kinda shocked none of the snakes have been strung up yet.
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#20
(12-23-2020, 01:23 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote:
(12-23-2020, 12:43 AM)beez Wrote: Politicians will pat themselves on their backs and celebrate the 600 dollars but ignore that it was their own actions that caused people to lose their livelihoods, their life savings.

I wish throat-punching was an appropriate and legal way of showing disgust.


I must say, I'm kinda shocked none of the snakes have been strung up yet.

When government fears people, that is liberty.
When people fear government that is tyranny.

-Someone smart said it
"I be ridin' they be hatin'."
-Abraham Lincoln


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