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Newsom Signs Bill to Amend Sex Offender Law
#1
Not all, but a major portion of Pedos live in California. So, guess what Governor Newsom just passed?
That's right, a bill to legalize sex with a "willing" minor. 
They know they're toast when the indictments are opened, and with G. Maxwell appearing to be singing like a bird, they know their days of freedom are numbered.

Never fear! Newsom is here!

Quote:California Governor Gavin Newsom (D) on Friday night signed a bill that would allow judges to decide whether to list a man as a sex offender for having oral or anal sex with a same-sex minor.

The bill lowers the penalties for adults who have sex with ‘willing’ same-sex minors. A Judge could decide if the adult has to register as sex offender if the offender is within 10 years of age of the victim.

The bill does not apply to minors under the age of 14.

SB 145 was introduced by state senator Scott Wiener and passed the California legislature last week.

Since 1944, judges decided whether a man had to register as a sex offender if he had sex with a female minor 14 years of age or older when the age difference is not more than 10 years, so Wiener argued that since the law didn’t apply to young boys, the LBGTQ community was being ‘discriminated against.’

The law ends discrimination “by treating LGBTQ young people the exact same way that straight young people have been treated since 1944,” Wiener said in a statement last week, adding: “Today, California took yet another step toward an equitable society.”

In other words, Scott Wiener is arguing that a 14-year-old boy can actually consent to sex with a 24-year-old grown man (predator).

The bill passed the Democrat-led assembly, however it was even too much for some Democrat state lawmakers.
25 Assembly members voted against the bill. It passed with 41 votes, with 13 lawmakers not voting and then it cleared the senate with a 23-10 vote (7 senators did not vote).

“I cannot in my mind as a mother understand how sex between a 24-year-old and a 14-year-old could ever be consensual, how it could ever not be a registrable offense,” Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez, D-San Diego, said before the bill’s passage last week. “We should never give up on this idea that children should be in no way subject to a predator.”

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This is truly disgusting!   smallnotamused 

How anyone can align themselves with these people is beyond my understanding.

Forgive me to any democrats in CA, but how can you vote for these people knowing they are trying to normalize pedophilia?  That by itself should be enough to make you turn and run the other direction.
#2
This bill seems oddly specific. 

Like it was designed to protect certain people just in case.

All the issues facing California and this was what they took time to make happen. Uh huh.....
#3
All their Sick Rich Pedo's were leaving California and the Bay Area mostly because the high taxes and Filthy living conditions, now his Pedo Friends have a reason to stay.
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#4
Quote:Since 1944, judges decided whether a man had to register as a sex offender if he had sex with a female minor 14 years of age or older when the age difference is not more than 10 years

So if I understand this correctly, it was already up to a judge's discretion if a 24 year old man had to register as a sex offender when caught having sex with a 14 year old girl - WHICH IS A CRIME AND NOT SOMETHING THIS BILL LEGALIZES.

In the case of a 24 year old man having sex with a 14 year old boy (or a 19 year old having sex with a 17 year old), there was no discretion whether or not the older person had to register as a sex offender even though sex with underage persons is still a crime. Men who molest boys were given different treatment than men who molest girls.

Homosexual men are not any more likely to molest children than heterosexual men. True fixated pedophiles don't really care if their victims are male or female.

Rather than allow the discretion of a judge who has to register as a sex offender and who doesn't depending on the sex of the victim, the new law should have forced all of them to register and take away the judge's ability to make that decision or at least shorten the 10-year difference to maybe 2 years?

This law does not legalize pedophilia. It just gives men who molest boys the same legal opportunity to not be listed as sex offenders as men who molest girls. All of them should be shot.
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#5
@"Freija" 
Yes, that is true what you mentioned above, but this is wrong, a child of 14 years of age and a adult of 24 years of age has NO Business Having any form of sex.
That 10 year age gap is ridiculous.  
He is Pandering to his Pedaphile Friends.

Then he is Stupid Enough to Blame the Fires on Climate Change!!!!  tinyok How Fucking Ignorant is This Fool??  Californians have gotten Exactly What They asked For with Pelosi's Nephew, Elite Stupidity at its Finest!

And 14 0r Even 16 year olds are too young to be Fondled or have any form of sex with anyone that is 5 to 10 years their senior.
This is not Egypt, The Middle Ages or the 18th Century when women were expected to be married by 14 or 15 to normally an older man.
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#6
(09-25-2020, 03:29 AM)guohua Wrote: Yes, that is true what you mentioned above, but this is wrong, a child of 14 years of age and a adult of 24 years of age has NO Business Having any form of sex.

California laws state that it is illegal, against the law and a crime for anyone 18 years of age or older to have sex with anyone under the age of 18. What is so hard to understand about that?

This bill does not change the law about having sex with underage persons nor does it permit or allow pedophilia.

If an 18 year old is caught having sex with a 17 year old, even if consensual, that is statutory rape, against the law and the 18 year old is subject to full prosecution under the law. If convicted, it is up to the judge's discretion if the perpetrator has to register as a sex offender as long as the sexual relationship is heterosexual in nature.

In the case of an 18 year old male caught having consensual sex with 17 year old male, which is still open for prosecution as statutory rape under the law, there was no discretion given to judges whether the perpetrator had to register as a sex offender - it was automatic. All this new law does is give a judge equal opportunity to decide who has to register as a sex offender. In either case, the leeway of a 10 year gap is ridiculous.

Sex with minors is illegal in California, period.

IMO, regardless of the cause, denying climate shift is "fucking ignorant" and why doesn't the [b] formatting code for bold text work?
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#7
There has been a push in different parts of the world for pedophilia to be seen as a sexual orientation, even some uni in the US wanting to teach that. As well as this groups who support pedophilia have been pushing very hard to join there flag to the LGBT, which so far LGBT has refused to let them in. So is this just a step closer to making pedophilia something that is normal and nothing to worry about ? In Europe child rape seems to be becoming the norm and accepted as the muslims grow in numbers. In islam if two grown men have sex they will be killed, but if a man has sex with a boy its ok. 
I think everyone can see where this mess is going.
Now at this point i will state again, islam is evil, muslims are not
#8
Just stand back and look at California........... that's all. you decide...
#9
Climate Change has been occurring for as long as we have a Sun.
It is the Sun, it is Concrete Buildings, sidewalks, Blacktop roads, airports and cities that absorb the heat and create these large ovens that reradiate all that heat.
On a Hot day go from the city to the open desert and it feels cooler.
JMHO

Now, Newsom allowing a judge to lessen the punishment of a sex offender or especially a Pedaphile is just Wrong!
Sure it is against the law still but to be allowed to lessen the offence because the sexual act was Consensual between a minor and adult is wrong, the adult was wrong.
This has nothing to do with the LGBT community. If You Are having sex with a minor below the age of legal consent then you are a Sex Offender by the standards of our laws, you need to be engage to be married with the parent/parents permission or both the same age and playing doctor or house and just being curious.


Quote:SACRAMENTO -- California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday signed a law that would give judges a say on whether to list someone as a sex offender for having oral or anal sex with a minor.


The bill would expand the discretion currently granted judges in statutory rape cases and was promoted as bringing fairness under the law to LGBTQ defendants.

The current law, in place for decades, permits judges to decide whether a man should be placed on California's sex offender registry if he had voluntary intercourse with someone 14 to 17 years old and was no more than 10 years older than the person.

Judges in California, already had the jurisdiction whether or not to list a person as a sex offender.


Quote:SB 145 would allow a sex offender who lures a minor with the intent to commit a felony (i.e. a sex act) the ability to escape registering as a sex offender as long as the offender is within 10 years of age of the minor.  No specification is made as to whether the sexual offender is straight or LGBT.

SB 145 would add a section to the state’s penal code (Section 290.55) stipulating that as long as the offender is “not more than 10 years older than the minor,” they are not automatically mandated to register as a sex offender. There is no age limit or range specified, except for existing law which already excludes lewd acts with children under 14.

SB 145 appears to allow adults to victimize minors by luring them with the intent to have sex, and then shields the predator from being automatically registered as a sex offender, as in the case of a 25 year old luring a 15 year old for sex, or a 22 year old luring a 12 year old.

SB 145, as currently written, appears to allow certain sexual predators to live among the population without anyone being aware.
Why is this bill needed?

Here is the text from SB 145:
This bill would authorize a person convicted of certain offenses involving minors to seek discretionary relief from the duty to register if the person is not more than 10 years older than the minor.
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The MSM made this to look like it was for the LGBTQ community when it really was just a bill to give Pedophiles more freedom in California.

Here is California's actual Penal code for sex with a minor.
Quote:Here is the current California Penal Code § 288.3 (2017)

(a) Every person who contacts or communicates with a minor, or attempts to contact or communicate with a minor, who knows or reasonably should know that the person is a minor, with intent to commit an offense specified in Section 207, 209, 261, 264.1, 273a, 286, 287, 288, 288.2, 289, 311.1, 311.2, 311.4 or 311.11, or former Section 288a, involving the minor shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for the term prescribed for an attempt to commit the intended offense.

(b) As used in this section, “contacts or communicates with” shall include direct and indirect contact or communication that may be achieved personally or by use of an agent or agency, any print medium, any postal service, a common carrier or communication common carrier, any electronic communications system, or any telecommunications, wire, computer, or radio communications device or system.

© A person convicted of a violation of subdivision (a) who has previously been convicted of a violation of subdivision (a) shall be punished by an additional and consecutive term of imprisonment in the state prison for five years.

 Does anyone see the Words Oral, Anal or Vaginal there?
Quote:
  • Enumerated Offense: You intended on Kidnapping,[3] Kidnapping For Ransom Or Reward,[4] Rape,[5] Gang Rape,[6] Child Abuse Likely To Cause Great Bodily Harm Or Death,[7] Sodomy,[8] Illegal Oral Copulation,[9] Lewd Acts On A Child,[10] Showing Or Sending Harmful Material To Seduce A Minor,[11] Sexual Penetration By Force, Fear Or Threats,[12] Distributing Obscene Matter Showing Sexual Conduct By A Minor,[13] Distributing Or Intending To Distribute Obscene Material,[14] Using A Minor To Perform Prohibited Acts,[15] Possession Or Distribution Of Obscene Matter Showing Sexual Conduct By A Minor,[16] or Oral Copulation With A Person Under Eighteen;[17] AND,
  • Person Was A Minor: You knew or reasonably should've known the other person was a minor.[18]


Gee, I see Sexual penetration has a reason listed above to be placed on the Sexual predators list.

But now the Judge gets to let the LGBTQ community a free pass if the sex act is Consensual? 
Thi has Nothing to do with them being unjustly persecuted, it has everything to do with giving the Pedaphile community more freedom.
The MSM just push this off as being all for the LGBTQ community so the public won't questioning the bill, so the Sheeple could feel good about themselves!
JMHO
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(09-25-2020, 05:02 PM)guohua Wrote: But now the Judge gets to let the LGBTQ community a free pass if the sex act is Consensual?

The only people getting a "free pass" here were straight kids having vaginal intercourse and by "free pass", at a judge's discretion they weren't automatically put on the sex offender list. Gay kids having oral or anal sex were not subject to the same rules because oral and anal sex weren't covered under the existing law and they were automatically placed on the sex offender list.

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Fact check: New California sex offender law does not legalize pedophilia
Under existing law since 1944, when a person is found by a court to have had vaginal intercourse with a minor 14 years of age or older, and the age difference is not more than 10 years, judges are given discretion as to whether to require that person to register as a sex offender.

But that discretion only applied to a man who had vaginal intercourse. The new change permits judges to use that same discretion when the case involves voluntary oral or anal sex.

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Gov. Newsom Signs Bill Changing Sex Offender Law
The current law, in place for decades, permits judges to decide whether a man should be placed on California’s sex offender registry if he had voluntary intercourse with someone 14 to 17 years old and was no more than 10 years older than the person.

But that discretion only applied to a man who had vaginal intercourse. The new change permits judges to use that same discretion when the case involves voluntary oral or anal sex.

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Fact check: California's SB-145 eliminates an inequality in sex offender registration
SB-145 changes the law to allow judges the same level of discretion over whether certain people must register as sex offenders for consensual anal and oral sex as they already have for consensual penile-vaginal sex.

Wiener told USA TODAY that SB-145 is "a basic equity law."

“Despite massive, disgusting misinformation from the QAnon cult – including extreme death threats against me – we were able to pass SB-145, because it’s the right thing to do," he said in a statement. "I’m grateful that my colleagues saw through the lies and understood that LGBTQ young people are having their lives destroyed simply for having consensual sex. We need to stop criminalizing our youth and stop treating LGBTQ youth more harshly than straight youth."

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Newsom signs bill intended to end discrimination against LGBTQ people in sex crime convictions
opponents have deliberately distorted what the legislation will do in order to exploit anti-LGBTQ sentiment for their own political gain. He noted that police chiefs and prosecutors supported the bill, something he said they would not do if it put children at risk.

Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Jackie Lacey helped draft the bill, which was supported by the California District Attorneys Assn., the California Police Chiefs Assn. and the California Coalition Against Sexual Assault.

“This bill allows judges and prosecutors to evaluate cases involving consensual sex acts between young people, regardless of their sexual orientation, on an individual basis.

___________________________________

Fact check: New California sex offender law does not legalize pedophilia
Under existing law since 1944, when a person is found by a court to have had vaginal intercourse with a minor 14 years of age or older, and the age difference is not more than 10 years, judges are given discretion as to whether to require that person to register as a sex offender.

But that discretion only applied to a man who had vaginal intercourse. The new change permits judges to use that same discretion when the case involves voluntary oral or anal sex.

___________________________________

Gov. Newsom Signs Bill Changing Sex Offender Law
The current law, in place for decades, permits judges to decide whether a man should be placed on California’s sex offender registry if he had voluntary intercourse with someone 14 to 17 years old and was no more than 10 years older than the person.

But that discretion only applied to a man who had vaginal intercourse. The new change permits judges to use that same discretion when the case involves voluntary oral or anal sex.

___________________________________

Fact check: California's SB-145 eliminates an inequality in sex offender registration
SB-145 changes the law to allow judges the same level of discretion over whether certain people must register as sex offenders for consensual anal and oral sex as they already have for consensual penile-vaginal sex.

Wiener told USA TODAY that SB-145 is "a basic equity law."

“Despite massive, disgusting misinformation from the QAnon cult – including extreme death threats against me – we were able to pass SB-145, because it’s the right thing to do," he said in a statement. "I’m grateful that my colleagues saw through the lies and understood that LGBTQ young people are having their lives destroyed simply for having consensual sex. We need to stop criminalizing our youth and stop treating LGBTQ youth more harshly than straight youth."

___________________________________

Newsom signs bill intended to end discrimination against LGBTQ people in sex crime convictions
opponents have deliberately distorted what the legislation will do in order to exploit anti-LGBTQ sentiment for their own political gain. He noted that police chiefs and prosecutors supported the bill, something he said they would not do if it put children at risk.

Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Jackie Lacey helped draft the bill, which was supported by the California District Attorneys Assn., the California Police Chiefs Assn. and the California Coalition Against Sexual Assault.

“This bill allows judges and prosecutors to evaluate cases involving consensual sex acts between young people, regardless of their sexual orientation, on an individual basis.

___________________________________

The only thing I really question here is why do they allow an age gap of 10 years? It has been that way for a long long time.
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#11
@"Freija" 
I'm sorry but all your Facts are coming from the Main Stream Media that are nothing more than Mouth Pieces for the far left.
They do NOT IMHO Report The Facts just their Agenda and they Love the Progressive Left like Newsom and Pelosi.

We'll have to Agree to Disagree, in MHO the creators of the bill and newsom have done Nothing for California but Strengthen the Pedaphile Community the California Law already mentioned the same punishment for Vaginal Penetration as Oral and Anal sex with a minor.
Anyone having sex with a 14 year old minor and that person is 10 years their senior is a Sex Offender and should be classified as one.
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#12
(09-13-2020, 04:58 AM)Freija Wrote: Rather than allow the discretion of a judge who has to register as a sex offender and who doesn't depending on the sex of the victim, the new law should have forced all of them to register and take away the judge's ability to make that decision or at least shorten the 10-year difference to maybe 2 years?

This law does not legalize pedophilia. It just gives men who molest boys the same legal opportunity to not be listed as sex offenders as men who molest girls. All of them should be shot.

This. What she said.

The law should apply to all equally. that's why they claim that "justice is blind". Furthermore, a 10 year age gap is way too much. When we are speaking of teens, 10 years is a sizeable percentage of their life - over half, in all cases. I'd be good with saying that an 18 year old should visit the hoosegow for sexing up anyone under 18, but I recall years ago when that was a big point of contention, so I could go with allowing a 2 year age gap, but no more than that. I would say no more than a 10% of they younger person age gap, but that would get into calculations, and there is not enough time to teach math to kids any more - it would cut into their Marxist indoctrination time. Kids wouldn't be able to add it up to see if they were legal or not.

And, yeah, kiddie diddlers need some lead suppositories. That will cure them. It's the ONLY thing that will.

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#13
You know, now that I've read the rest of the thread, i think that instead of permitting judicial discretion in the case or oral and anal sex, they should have instead removed it in the case of vaginal sex. that would have also promoted equality under the law, and at the same time strengthened the laws against pedophilia in all it's forms...

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Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’




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