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(05-11-2021, 03:57 PM)BIAD Wrote:
(05-11-2021, 03:05 PM)drussell41 Wrote: I can't get over the amount of dishonesty, propaganda and coercion being brought to bear on this.  I wonder if any of the proponents are aware that thanks to those things, their credibility has tanked not only on this issue, but overall.   That they're are losing "hearts and minds" because it's all been so ridiculous and heavy-handed.

When your lifestyle depends on getting the public to watch and listen at your feet and not at your competitor's, continuity of a
narrative eventually loses it's significance. The media and those they serve will deafen the environment with examples and
explanations of a theme until their goal is acquired.

Then... look, a young Minke whale gets stuck in the river Thames and had to be killed.
Look, some crazy shoots his wife and kids because of easy access to guns.
Oh my... Mr Fauci advises that we should wear masks at every flu-season, a joke within itself!

Your comment of 'hearts & minds' is correct because of their ingrained Class status. The public they preach to are dumb... you
and me, dumb as rocks. When selling your wares to such stupid folk, concerns of confusion and disillusionment are not needed.
What are you going to do...? NOT watch the television or buy a newspaper?!!

Their awareness of the internet and rational-based discourse is stunted because of their self-importance. The recent flexing of
their muscles in regards of Covid-19 is evidence of that. Those who still believe CNN isn't a comedy channel and relies on their
commentary/news to tell them how their world turns, are seen as devoted worshippers and would never 'go over' to a conduit
of information where kids talk about computer games and look at porn.
No... never.
tinyhuh
The bottom-line is these people in the media believe they are better than you and me, but don't mean it nastily. They just are.
I've actually heard Journalists say this! They don't mean it as an insult, it's been generated from the idea of knowing the
truth of a subject and the power felt from relaying a version of it to those who supposedly need such information to run their lives.

They're aware that their trade is dying, that I'm certain of. But their failure to adhere to the moral ethics once instructed in
Journalist-training is the main crippling aspect of the mainstream media's situation. The ironic point is that a comic hero
called 'Spiderman' -a photographer for a newspaper, held the credo: "with great power comes great responsibility"!
tinylaughing

The other irony is that most established publishers of factual information are on par with comics.
tinysure

Good writeup!

I agree that alot of people seem kind of stupid, but I'm pretty sure that even if we limit ourselves to Mensa-level IQ, that leaves two percent who ARE indeed capable of reasoning their way out of a paper bag.   That's alot of people out of the US population. I wonder.....where are journalists at on this scale?   Physicians only average 120.  Mensa entry level is 130 IIRC.   Not so sure they need to tell this two percent fuck all.

And yes, we have indeed cancelled the newspaper subscription and can only stomach brief portions of BBC.  Hubs reads the Daily Mail because they have our local news BEFORE ANYONE HERE does (which we see as slightly outrageous).   Everything else is completely ignored.   Pretty sure we're not the only household in any of this.

I hadn't heard the baby whale was killed. :(
(05-11-2021, 04:30 PM)drussell41 Wrote: Good writeup!

I agree that alot of people seem kind of stupid, but I'm pretty sure that even if we limit ourselves to  Mensa-level IQ, that leaves two percent who ARE indeed capable of reasoning their way out of a paper bag.   That's alot of people out of the US population.  I wonder.....where are journalists at on this scale?   Physicians only average 120.  Mensa entry level is 130 IIRC.   Not so sure they need to tell this two percent fuck all.

And yes, we have indeed cancelled the newspaper subscription and can only stomach brief portions of BBC.  Hubs reads the Daily Mail because they have our local news BEFORE ANYONE HERE does (which we see as slightly outrageous).   Everything else is completely ignored.   Pretty sure we're not the only household in any of this.

I hadn't heard the baby whale was killed.  :(

Don't get me wrong, it's not that most people are dumb, it's that many of those who feed their shite to the Journalists 
and the the Journalists themselves THINK their customers are dumb! This is the main cause for the damage in the world
of information reporting.

It's a pompous view that's comes from the middle-class backgrounds of those who enter the vocation. Just look at the
substance of today's news. It's all 'celebrity'-orientated or -when an actual incident occurs, is purveyed from a standing
of a non-proletarian. The perception hinted at is people of a certain 'lower' status behave in such a negative manner
because they don't know any better or that it's to be expected of them.

This is why we're currently seeing the false opposition on identification during elections. 'Black people don't understand
the internet' -a slur that isn't realised because of an ingrained belief that there are those who lead and those who follow.
A true aspect of humanity... yes, but the decision of who leads shouldn't be based on wealth and a select education.

I must admit, the BBC Breakfast news programme is a hoot to watch! The banal arrogance displayed in their articles
is cringe-worthy. Again, the 'let's-feel-sorry-for-someone-because-of-their-skin-colour' virtue-signalling is indicative of
their self-presumed Class-status.

It worked for a while, but it's now outdated. And because they desire little interaction with 'the unwashed', they're
unaware of the mockery that occurs just outside their studio doors.

Yes... shame about the whale.
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(05-11-2021, 05:27 PM)BIAD Wrote:
(05-11-2021, 04:30 PM)drussell41 Wrote: Don't get me wrong, it's not that most people are dumb, it's that many of those who feed their shite to the Journalists 
and the the Journalists themselves THINK their customers are dumb! This is the main cause for the damage in the world
of information reporting.

It's a pompous view that's comes from the middle-class backgrounds of those who enter the vocation. Just look at the
substance of today's news. It's all 'celebrity'-orientated or -when an actual incident occurs, is purveyed from a standing
of a non-proletarian. The perception hinted at is people of a certain 'lower' status behave in such a negative manner
because they don't know any better or that it's to be expected of them.

This is why we're currently seeing the false opposition on identification during elections. 'Black people don't understand
the internet' -a slur that isn't realised because of an ingrained belief that there are those who lead and those who follow.
A true aspect of humanity... yes, but the decision of who leads shouldn't be based on wealth and a select education.

I must admit, the BBC Breakfast news programme is a hoot to watch! The banal arrogance displayed in their articles
is cringe-worthy. Again, the 'let's-feel-sorry-for-someone-because-of-their-skin-colour' virtue-signalling is indicative of
their self-presumed Class-status.

It worked for a while, but it's now outdated. And because they desire little interaction with 'the unwashed', they're
unaware of the mockery that occurs just outside their studio doors.

Yes... shame about the whale.
 
Yes, I see your point about how the public is perceived by them.  Even for average people, they're perceived as being much more ignorant and incapable than they actually are.
(05-11-2021, 05:27 PM)BIAD Wrote: Yes... shame about the whale.

Did they at least parcel it out and feed the homeless?

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


As for "how stupid do they see us?" "They" including the government ......  I saw a propaganda piece for the vaccine that said, "It's just fat, sugar and water.  And it has less sugar than this candy bar!"  

gag

Not making it up.
(05-11-2021, 08:55 PM)Ninurta Wrote:
(05-11-2021, 05:27 PM)BIAD Wrote: Yes... shame about the whale.

Did they at least parcel it out and feed the homeless?

Oddly enough, no. It was 'humanely' put out of its misery and the Beeb says:

"A vet from the Zoological Society of London administered the injection shortly after 18:00.
The whale is now being moved and a post-mortem examination is due to be carried out...

SOURCE:

Whether a cat-food company makes a phone call this morning is unknown at this point, but the
Salvation Army haven't said anything yet.
tinyhuh
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(05-11-2021, 10:49 PM)drussell41 Wrote: As for "how stupid do they see us?" "They" including the government ......  I saw a propaganda piece for the vaccine that said, "It's just fat, sugar and water.  And it has less sugar than this candy bar!"  

gag

Not making it up.

That was why I wasn't surprised when Matt Hancock - the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care for the UK,
was televised having his injection. Who administered it...? A nurse? A qualified Health worker?
Remember, optics are everything and it would look good to see the well-publicised injection-vanguard of the
Government accepting his jab from a constantly-thanked, overworked 'front-line-worker'. 

No, it was Jonathan Van-Tam MBE, the Prime Minister's right-hand mouth-piece in relating the rules and over-caution
to the public about a deadly virus. The same guy who attended a conference on 'Why Let A Good Crisis Go To Waste'.
tinycrying

One wonders what was in that syringe.
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(05-12-2021, 08:44 AM)BIAD Wrote: That was why I wasn't surprised when Matt Hancock - the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care for the UK,
was televised having his injection. Who administered it...? A nurse? A qualified Health worker?
Remember, optics are everything and it would look good to see the well-publicised injection-vanguard of the
Government accepting his jab from a constantly-thanked, overworked 'front-line-worker'. 

No, it was Jonathan Van-Tam MBE, the Prime Minister's right-hand mouth-piece in relating the rules and over-caution
to the public about a deadly virus. The same guy who attended a conference on 'Why Let A Good Crisis Go To Waste'.
tinycrying

One wonders what was in that syringe.

Amazing....but not in a good way.
Just spoke to one of the physicians on the site below.....doing everything right except the zinc needs 1 or 2 mg of copper with it!   Hadn't realized that.  Also, I'll be starting ivermectin prophylaxis today.  It's like 6 tablets today, repeat in three days, then weekly.   He was really on top of it.   Apparently there's even a seratonin aspect to COVID-19! 

https://www.exstnc.com/

https://rebelem.com/covid-19-update-an-i...ntagonism/
A microbiologist explains what is wrong with the way the covid PCR test is being used that creates false positives, and claims the vaccine is meant to decimate the world population: https://tv.gab.com/channel/cybershell/vi...1f1222a597
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


(05-13-2021, 11:15 AM)Ninurta Wrote: A microbiologist explains what is wrong with the way the covid PCR test is being used that creates false positives, and claims the vaccine is meant to decimate the world population: https://tv.gab.com/channel/cybershell/vi...1f1222a597

The Doctor is correct.

Even the chap I just mentioned in a post to Drussell, Matt Hancock -the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care
in the UK, remarked a few weeks ago that the public should behave as if they have the disease -whether they have it
or not!
That's a supposed-responsible adult in a major Government role suggesting mass-fear and also -probably unknowingly,
implying the track-and-trace system is useless and that vaccines aren't the cure-all.

Scary.
tinywondering
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
Ohio is rolling out vaccine lotteries.   If you're 12-17, you may be eligible to win a full, four-year scholarship to university.  If over, $1 million.    The governor talked about it with a happy, shining face. 

I am beyond morally repulsed by this, especially the bribing aimed toward the young. 

Is this the carrot that comes before the stick?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021...-1-million
(05-13-2021, 12:44 PM)drussell41 Wrote: Ohio is rolling out vaccine lotteries.   If you're 12-17, you may be eligible to win a full, four-year scholarship to university.  If over, $1 million.    The governor talked about it with a happy, shining face. 

I am beyond morally repulsed by this, especially the bribing aimed toward the young. 

Is this the carrot that comes before the stick?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021...-1-million

It shows how much of a mockery the vaccine implementation is! A supposed-deadly virus that is alleged to
attack major organs in the body, travel via the respiratory of its host and can mutate when cornered.
Nah... take a jab and a chance at winning a million bucks!
tinylaughing
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(05-13-2021, 12:50 PM)BIAD Wrote:
(05-13-2021, 12:44 PM)drussell41 Wrote: Ohio is rolling out vaccine lotteries.   If you're 12-17, you may be eligible to win a full, four-year scholarship to university.  If over, $1 million.    The governor talked about it with a happy, shining face. 

I am beyond morally repulsed by this, especially the bribing aimed toward the young. 

Is this the carrot that comes before the stick?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021...-1-million

It shows how much of a mockery the vaccine implementation is! A supposed-deadly virus that is alleged to
attack major organs in the body, travel via the respiratory of its host and can mutate when cornered.
Nah... take a jab and a chance at winning a million bucks!
tinylaughing

It's crass.
Fuck all of it. Fuck it.

To hell with the PLANdemic. Enough now.

Fuck you CDC, Fuck you WHO, Fuck you pedo-Biden and Finnish nazi politicians. Fuck you Fauci. I just want to watch you all burn, because that is the only thing you little sadists deserve.

minusculebeercheers
"Man is fully responsible for his nature and his choices."

-Jean-Paul Sartre
Indian Health Ambassador Gets COVID Vaccine Live on TV to Show Everyone How Safe It Is – Dies 2 Days Later

Read about it here
(05-13-2021, 12:44 PM)drussell41 Wrote: Ohio is rolling out vaccine lotteries.   If you're 12-17, you may be eligible to win a full, four-year scholarship to university.  If over, $1 million.    The governor talked about it with a happy, shining face. 

I am beyond morally repulsed by this, especially the bribing aimed toward the young. 

Is this the carrot that comes before the stick?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021...-1-million

It comes down to a question of what one believes one's life is worth, in dollars and cents. Is it worth risking a 1 in one thousand chance of dying to take a 1 in one million chance of hitting the lotto? I'm not sure what the actual numbers are, but that is the general idea.

The state of Ohio has the added incentive that, if the lotto winner dies, they don't actually have to pay off the million dollar bribe...

And if that is the carrot before the stick, they're gonna need a bigger stick when they get to here, because that carrot is not anywhere near enough for me to risk my one and only life on something as frivolous as this covid vaccine.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


(05-13-2021, 05:16 PM)Ninurta Wrote:
(05-13-2021, 12:44 PM)drussell41 Wrote: Ohio is rolling out vaccine lotteries.   If you're 12-17, you may be eligible to win a full, four-year scholarship to university.  If over, $1 million.    The governor talked about it with a happy, shining face. 

I am beyond morally repulsed by this, especially the bribing aimed toward the young. 

Is this the carrot that comes before the stick?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021...-1-million

It comes down to a question of what one believes one's life is worth, in dollars and cents. Is it worth risking a 1 in one thousand chance of dying to take a 1 in one million chance of hitting the lotto? I'm not sure what the actual numbers are, but that is the general idea.io has

The state of Ohio has the added incentive that, if the lotto winner dies, they don't actually have to pay off the million dollar bribe...

And if that is the carrot before the stick, they're gonna need a bigger stick when they get to here, because that carrot is not anywhere near enough for me to risk my one and only life on something as frivolous as this covid vaccine.

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Besides the question of putting a value on one's life, it also comes down to ignorance of possible risk (because they certainly are not informing people of it) and each person's risk threshold. My risk tolerance is practically nonexistent at this point thanks to everything I've personally experienced at their hands (los medicos).

The bribe wouldn't be paid to their next-of-kin as part of their estate?   That really, really sucks if true.
(05-13-2021, 06:40 PM)drussell41 Wrote: Besides the question of putting a value on one's life, it also comes down to ignorance of possible risk (because they certainly are not informing people of it) and each person's risk threshold. My risk tolerance is practically nonexistent at this point thanks to everything I've personally experienced at their hands (los medicos)

Well, you have a point there, that there are way too many people in this world who have to be told not to stick their hand on a burner rather than being able to figure it out for themselves by looking around them to gather the evidence of their own eyes. ALL medical procedures, down to and including taking an aspirin, have some amount of built-in risk. When people in high places push a risky behavior like allowing your skin to be broken for the introduction of a foreign substance into your body as hard as they are pushing it, and with absolutely NO demonstration of a necessity to do so, up to the point of offering bribes in the absence of a demonstrable need, that right there sets off flashing lights and warning klaxons for me. But I do understand that some folks are not able to think that far through it.

So, really, my problem with the whole thing is not so much ignorance of the risk as it is they way they are actively promoting risky behaviors and trying to hide the risks from us in order to promote the behaviors. Ignorance of risk is one thing, but actively promoting disinformation to purposely hide that risk is something else altogether, in my mind. They might as well be telling us to drink lye because it will make our teeth sparkly white!

Quote:The bribe wouldn't be paid to their next-of-kin as part of their estate?   That really, really sucks if true.

Doubtful. I've never known any government to pay off an obligation that it was not forced to pay off. 

Grace just got a letter from Jao Bai Den today that he had to sneak into the house by disguising it as a US Treasury communication. Otherwise, it would have gone straight into the junk mail bin, File 13, but folks pay closer attention when they get mail from the IRS. So it arrived in disguise, with a Treasury Department return address on the envelope, but "The White House" on the header of the letterhead. He was using the opportunity to brag brag brag about all the money he is throwing at people. I got no such letter, however. Can you guess why? That's right, it's because I have gotten not so much as one red cent of ANY of their stimulus payments. None. Not Trump's, neither of Bai Den's, not even Bush's from back in 2008 - I'm even still waiting on that one. So it would do Jao Bai Den no good at all to brag to me about it, because I am aware already of what a huge lie it is.

Jao even took the opportunity to brag to Grace about extending the unemployment benefit payments. That's cute. I did get a letter about the previous claimed extension, last year, informing me that I was eligible and approved for maximum payments in that extension... but I'm still waiting on the money, a year later. Out of all that money promised to me, they never, ever, made any way for me to file claims for it... just an empty promise of "some day, maybe". So what good to me would yet another hollow promise of an unemployment extension be when I'm still waiting to see something tangible from the LAST one they promised?

So, no, I'm thinking if a covid lotto winner dies, some Ohio politician will "divert" the payments to build or improve his own Black Sea dacha, although since it is Ohio, the Party members are probably building their dachas on the shores of Lake Erie rather than the Black Sea like the Russian commie leadership did. NEVER trust a government when it is promising you money. It's either a flat-out lie, or they are trying to buy your loyalty or vote.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


(05-13-2021, 08:46 PM)Ninurta Wrote:
(05-13-2021, 06:40 PM)drussell41 Wrote: Besides the question of putting a value on one's life, it also comes down to ignorance of possible risk (because they certainly are not informing people of it) and each person's risk threshold. My risk tolerance is practically nonexistent at this point thanks to everything I've personally experienced at their hands (los medicos)

Well, you have a point there, that there are way too many people in this world who have to be told not to stick their hand on a burner rather than being able to figure it out for themselves by looking around them to gather the evidence of their own eyes. ALL medical procedures, down to and including taking an aspirin, have some amount of built-in risk. When people in high places push a risky behavior like allowing your skin to be broken for the introduction of a foreign substance into your body as hard as they are pushing it, and with absolutely NO demonstration of a necessity to do so, up to the point of offering bribes in the absence of a demonstrable need, that right there sets off flashing lights and warning klaxons for me. But I do understand that some folks are not able to think that far through it.

So, really, my problem with the whole thing is not so much ignorance of the risk as it is the way they are actively promoting risky behaviors and trying to hide the risks from us in order to promote the behaviors. Ignorance of risk is one thing, but actively promoting disinformation to purposely hide that risk is something else altogether, in my mind. They might as well be telling us to drink lye because it will make our teeth sparkly white!

Quote:The bribe wouldn't be paid to their next-of-kin as part of their estate?   That really, really sucks if true.

Doubtful. I've never known any government to pay off an obligation that it was not forced to pay off. 

Grace just got a letter from Jao Bai Den today that he had to sneak into the house by disguising it as a US Treasury communication. Otherwise, it would have gone straight into the junk mail bin, File 13, but folks pay closer attention when they get mail from the IRS. So it arrived in disguise, with a Treasury Department return address on the envelope, but "The White House" on the header of the letterhead. He was using the opportunity to brag brag brag about all the money he is throwing at people. I got no such letter, however. Can you guess why? That's right, it's because I have gotten not so much as one red cent of ANY of their stimulus payments. None. Not Trump's, neither of Bai Den's, not even Bush's from back in 2008 - I'm even still waiting on that one. So it would do Jao Bai Den no good at all to brag to me about it, because I am aware already of what a huge lie it is.

Jao even took the opportunity to brag to Grace about extending the unemployment benefit payments. That's cute. I did get a letter about the previous claimed extension, last year, informing me that I was eligible and approved for maximum payments in that extension... but I'm still waiting on the money, a year later. Out of all that money promised to me, they never, ever, made any way for me to file claims for it... just an empty promise of "some day, maybe". So what good to me would yet another hollow promise of an unemployment extension be when I'm still waiting to see something tangible from the LAST one they promised?

I bet Iran and Palestine get THEIR payments from that same "American Stimulus" bill, however. I'm probably just not swarthy enough to rate the actual payments.

So, no, I'm thinking if a covid lotto winner dies, some Ohio politician will "divert" the payments to build or improve his own Black Sea dacha, although since it is Ohio, the Party members are probably building their dachas on the shores of Lake Erie rather than the Black Sea like the Russian commie leadership did. NEVER trust a government when it is promising you money. It's either a flat-out lie, or they are trying to buy your loyalty or vote.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’




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