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Quote:Imran Ahmad Khan: MP guilty of sex assault on 15-year-old boy

'Wakefield MP Imran Ahmad Khan has been expelled from the Conservative Party after being found guilty of sexually
assaulting a 15-year-old boy. Khan had denied groping the teenager at a party in Staffordshire in January 2008 but was
convicted after a trial.

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Southwark Crown Court heard he forced the youngster to drink gin, dragged him upstairs and asked him to watch pornography
before assaulting him. Khan, 48, has said he intends to appeal his conviction. Following the verdict the Conservative Party said
Khan, who was elected as Tory MP for Wakefield in 2019, had been "expelled with immediate effect".
The Labour Party and the Conservative MP for Keighley, Robbie Moore, have called for Khan to resign.

The court heard that Khan had gone to the boy's bed and "reached in and touched his legs, reaching for, or actually touching, his
groin". The complainant, now 29, said the attack had left him "scared and shocked".

In evidence, he said Khan had started "slow caressing" him and continued despite being asked to stop.
"His breathing was getting quite heavy and I kept pushing his hand away and pushing it back and it would keep coming," the man said.
The court was told that police were called at the time but the teenager did not want to pursue the case.

The man, who cannot be named, contacted the Conservative party in 2019 after learning Mr Khan was standing in the general election.
He then called police after Mr Khan was elected to Parliament. Jurors also heard from the complainant's older brother, who said the MP
had asked if he was "a true Scotsman" and lifted his kilt, before "lunging" at him at the same party.

Another witness described waking to find Khan performing a sex act on him after a party in Pakistan in 2010 where the pair had drunk
whisky and smoked marijuana. Khan claimed he had only touched the teenager's elbow when the boy had become "extremely upset"
after a conversation about his confused sexuality.

The MP was found guilty after about five hours of deliberations.
The judge, Mr Justice Baker, said he would sentence Khan at a date to be fixed and he warned him "all sentencing options, including
immediate custody, are being considered by the court". Khan made no comment as he left the court, however, his solicitors later issued
a statement saying he "maintains his innocence and will be appealing as soon as possible".

Staffordshire Police said it began its investigation into Khan after the victim came forward in December 2019.
In a statement, the force said: "We know how hard it is to come forward and report these offences, but it is vital to bring those responsible
for these offences to justice. "We would like to commend the victim for reporting the offence committed against him - he has shown real
bravery and courage in doing so. "This case has had a huge impact on the victim and his family for a number of years."

'Vile and disgusting'
Khan will be thrown out of the House of Commons if he is handed a prison sentence of more than a year, or he could face a recall petition
to oust him. Following the verdict, Mr Moore tweeted that Khan's crime was "vile and disgusting".
He said Khan should "immediately resign so people of Wakefield can have a new MP as soon as possible". The Labour party also called
for Khan's resignation. "Imran Ahmad Khan should immediately resign so a by-election can take place and the people of Wakefield can get
the representation they deserve," a party spokesman said.

Anonymity plea
Born in Wakefield, Khan attended Silcoates School before going on to graduate from Kings College London with a degree in War Studies.
He later worked for the United Nations in Mogadishu and advertising agency M&C Saatchi before ousting Labour's Mary Creagh at the 2019
general election.

Following the verdict it can now be reported that Khan had attempted to have the case heard in secrecy, arguing that as a serving MP there
were concerns about his safety and that to name him in court would breach his human rights. He also attempted to have the age of his victim
withheld.

However his applications were rejected by Westminster Magistrates' Court Chief Magistrate, Paul Goldspring, who said: "Damage to reputation
is not a ground for making of an order, open justice is and should remain a cornerstone of democracy and the rule of law." He tried again to
have the case heard anonymously on the first day of the trial on the grounds that as an Ahmadi Muslim, both the consumption of alcohol
and homosexuality are strictly prohibited, and the reporting of those matters would expose him to "a risk to his safety both here and abroad".

A temporary banning order was put in place but was lifted at the end of the second day of the trial...'
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(04-11-2022, 08:55 PM)BIAD Wrote: I don't have the words.
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I am finding this troubling that so many people that are in positions of authority, have the history of sexual abuse of children.
Is it a requirement for the position? Just don't get caught?

I can understand things easier if I can relate. But i cannot relate to a sexual attraction to children. Anyone that has those kinds of feelings towards a child it not just sick, they are in need of serious help, and should not be allowed near any child.

Anyone found guilty of harming a child in this way, should be permanently removed from society.

I have no sympathy or compassion for pedophiles.
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(04-11-2022, 09:20 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: Anyone found guilty of harming a child in this way, should be permanently removed from society.

I have no sympathy or compassion for pedophiles.

This.

Sexual compulsions are among the strongest psychological urges in human beings - and nearly all other species as well. One they get out of whack and misdirected for whatever reason one may care to hazard, they can not, ever, be realigned. They will just get more and more divergent as time passes. This has been demonstrated time and time again.

In other words, sexual predators in general  and pedophiles in particular can never, EVER, be "cured". It is in the interests of society, and of the pedophiles themselves, that they be removed from society permanently, and with extreme prejudice. They cannot be cured, and there is no point or profit for society to merely cage them and keep feeding them at society's expense. That works to the benefit of no one.

Just end the bastards.

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“The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people.”

-Aldous Huxley

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.45 calibre justice.

Just sayin'
"My milkshakes bring the boys to the yard."
-Abraham Lincoln
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(04-11-2022, 11:58 PM)Ninurta Wrote:
(04-11-2022, 09:20 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: Anyone found guilty of harming a child in this way, should be permanently removed from society.

I have no sympathy or compassion for pedophiles.

This.

Sexual compulsions are among the strongest psychological urges in human beings - and nearly all other species as well. One they get out of whack and misdirected for whatever reason one may care to hazard, they can not, ever, be realigned. They will just get more and more divergent as time passes. This has been demonstrated time and time again.

In other words, sexual predators in general  and pedophiles in particular can never, EVER, be "cured". It is in the interests of society, and of the pedophiles themselves, that they be removed from society permanently, and with extreme prejudice. They cannot be cured, and there is no point or profit for society to merely cage them and keep feeding them at society's expense. That works to the benefit of no one.

Just end the bastards.

The same deceitful news-outlet are attempting to distract by involving a group of of letters and a '+'-sign.
The reading of this just doesn't make sense to me, a member of UK Parliament is disagreeing with a UK court
verdict and believes it will have 'dreadful wider implications for millions of LGBT+ Muslims around the world'.

How?
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Quote:Crispin Blunt criticised for remarks about Imran Ahmad Khan conviction

'Conservative MP Crispin Blunt is facing criticism after defending a fellow Tory MP convicted of sexual assault.
Imran Ahmad Khan, who has represented the Wakefield constituency since 2019, was found guilty on Monday of
sexually assaulting a 15-year-old boy in 2008.

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MP Crispin Blunt & Imran Ahmad Khan.

Mr Blunt called the verdict a "dreadful miscarriage of justice" although he gave no specifics.
Labour called the comments "disgraceful" and said he should be suspended from the Conservative Party.
Five members of the all-party parliamentary group (APPG) for global LGBT+ rights, which Mr Blunt chairs, have either
resigned or said they will in response.

Mr Blunt's statement was deleted from his website on Tuesday morning.
Armed Forces Minister James Heappey told BBC Breakfast Mr Blunt was "definitely not speaking for the government",
which respected the court's verdict.

And a statement from the Conservative Party said Khan, who has said he will appeal against his conviction, was found
guilty by his peers and that "we completely reject any allegations of impropriety against our independent judiciary".

Mr Blunt is the MP for Reigate and from 2015 to 2017 was the chairman of the foreign affairs select committee.
He also previously served as the parliamentary under-secretary for prisons and youth justice within the Ministry of Justice.

Writing on his website, he said he was "appalled and distraught" by the outcome of the trial, calling it "an international scandal,
with dreadful wider implications for millions of LGBT+ Muslims around the world". He claimed that the case against Khan had
"relied on lazy tropes about LGBT+ people that we might have thought we had put behind us decades ago".
"I hope for the return of Imran Ahmad Khan to the public service that has exemplified his life to date," he said.

The statement provided no further details about Mr Blunt's criticisms of the case against Mr Khan.
Responding to the statement on Twitter, Labour Party Chair Anneliese Dodds wrote: "This is disgraceful.

"@BorisJohnson and [Conservative Party chair] @OliverDowden must take action against this Tory MP
and distance their party from his comments."

Shadow justice secretary Steve Reed added: "The prime minister should suspend Blunt from the Conservative Party for this
utterly reprehensible statement." Two MPs from Labour - Chris Bryant and Kate Osborne - and three from the SNP - Stewart
McDonald, Joanna Cherry, and Martin Docherty-Hughes - announced shortly after that they would be resigning from the APPG
for global LGBT+ rights.

Mr Bryant, who chairs both the committee on standards and the committee on privileges, called Mr Blunt's comments "completely
inappropriate". Following Khan's conviction, the Labour Party said he "should immediately resign so a by-election can take place
and the people of Wakefield can get the representation they deserve".

During his trial, Khan denied groping a teenager at a party in Staffordshire in January 2008.
Southwark Crown Court heard he forced the youngster to drink gin, dragged him upstairs, and asked him to watch pornography
before assaulting him.

Following the verdict, the Conservative Party said Khan had been "expelled with immediate effect".
Khan is set to be sentenced at a later date...'
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The media call it 'The North', but Manchester is only north when you perceive the city from London.
Today, the Greater Manchester Police apologised for ignoring the victims of the grooming-gangs from a decade ago.

Here's their 'we're-sorry-and-we-need-to-do-better-to-stop-a-certain-community-from-raping-you' message and never
a mention of who conducted the organised grooming and never a comment of why they believed this could happen.



Quote:Chief Constable of GMP apologises to victims of Rochdale grooming gangs

'The Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police, Stephen Watson QPM, has met and personally apologised to three victims
of grooming gangs in Rochdale for a catalogue of investigative failings that prevented their abusers from being brought to justice.

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Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police, Stephen Watson.

The three women, who are entitled to lifelong anonymity, have also received a substantial settlement of damages for a historic
claim launched against Greater Manchester Police in 2019. Centre for Women’s Justice acted for all three women in the
proceedings.

The Chief Constable’s meeting with the survivors comes exactly a decade after the 2012 trial that resulted in some, but by no
means all, members of the notorious grooming gangs being convicted for their sexual exploitation of children.

In the same year, Detective Constable Maggie Oliver – an officer who had worked on the investigation – resigned from the force
and turned whistle-blower in protest at what she saw as gross failures to protect these victims on the part of the Chief Constable,
senior police colleagues and the Crown Prosecution Service.

Despite the concerns repeatedly raised over the past 10 years, today’s apologies mark the first formal recognition by Greater
Manchester Police of the extent to which they were failed. Following a meeting with the three survivors in person on Tuesday
afternoon (12 April), the Chief Constable published a written statement:

"Today is not about Greater Manchester Police, but about those victims who in the past have been let down when they needed
our help in the most traumatic and horrific circumstances. I have now personally delivered my apology to some of these victims
for the failings Greater Manchester Police had in its contact with those who suffered child sexual exploitation in Rochdale.

It is a matter of profound personal regret that the childhoods of these victims were so cruelly impacted by the dreadful experiences
they endured. GMP could, and should, have done much more to protect them. “The failings of our past into Child Sexual Exploitation
are well known, and thankfully there is today a far better understanding of CSE than there was before the Operation Span trial in
May 2012, and we are committed to leaving no stone unturned to bring these offenders to justice, no matter the passage of time,
through our dedicated Force CSE unit.

We will strive to keep improving our responses to similarly horrible circumstances, to prevent the same from happening in the first
instance and relentlessly pursuing perpetrators so that they can be held fully to account. “I hope that my apology and commitment to
rectifying the poor practices of the past will provide some little comfort to those we failed.
“We have also agreed with the recipients to publish my apologies in full on our website.”

As a result of police failures to respond to evidence of mass child sexual exploitation in Rochdale, the men who had groomed the
three children were able to continue physically, emotionally and sexually abusing them over a period of years.

Even after they were eventually asked to give evidence about their abuse, the majority of their allegations were not prosecuted,
or even recorded as crimes. Shockingly, two of the three teenage girls were repeatedly treated as criminals by the authorities,
when they were in need of protection.

One of the victims’, ‘Daisy’, now has to live with a childhood criminal record, meaning that for some jobs she will have to disclose
to employers that her ‘criminal’ past relates to a history of grooming and sexual abuse.

Another young woman, known as ‘Amber’, had to fight tirelessly for custody of her own children.
To all three of the victims, the Chief Constable stated: “It is a matter of profound personal regret that your childhood was so cruelly
impacted by the dreadful experiences which you endured. GMP could, and should, have done much more to protect you and we
let you down.”

The three women have welcomed the Chief Constable’s apologies, and the long-awaited conclusion of their protracted legal
proceedings against Greater Manchester Police. ‘Amber’ said: “I feel like this is the first time I’ve really been seen and publicly
recognised by authorities as an innocent child victim who needed protection.

“The way I was treated at the time had a terrible impact on my life, for years after the abuse ended.
“As a victim I should never have been treated the way I was, so it is a relief, after all these years, that the police have finally
recognised that.”

‘BXW’ said: “The police were completely in the wrong for the way they treated us. I’m relieved that they’ve accepted that at last
and that our legal case has come to an end.” ‘Daisy’ said: “I don’t know if I believe that Greater Manchester Police have really
changed their ways as they say they have, but I’m happy that they’ve taken into account their failings and there’s finally been
some accountability.

“It’s been 10 years since Operation Span and until now they’d never accepted what really happened.
“If we’d never found lawyers, I don’t know if they ever would have apologised to us.”

Former Detective Constable Maggie Oliver – and founder of the Maggie Oliver Foundation, a charity that supports and advocates
for survivors of child sexual abuse – said: “I feel relieved that finally, after an all-consuming 10-year battle, GMP have at last
acknowledged their horrific treatment of these three victims was wrong, even inhumane.

“Their powerful legal teams and the previous chief constables have blocked this action at every point, believing we would just give
up and go away. But that was never going to happen.

“And whilst an apology can never put right the harm that has been done to these young girls, at least now they can begin to look
ahead to the rest of their lives, knowing they were failed. I know that each of them wishes they had never put their trust in the police,
as the damage caused by the treatment they received has, in many ways been as bad as, if not worse than, the sexual abuse itself,
which is a damning indictment of our so-called ‘justice’ system.”

Kate Ellis, a solicitor at Centre for Women’s Justice who acted for the three claimants, said: “It is extraordinary what these three
women have achieved after all they have been through. “We hope that today’s outcome will serve as a reminder to Greater
Manchester Police, and other police forces, that they will be held to account if they fail to protect vulnerable children from
exploitation and abuse.”

Harriet Wistrich, director of CWJ, said: “The trial ten years ago was hailed as a victory, but it followed years of abject policing
failures. Sadly, such failures are still prevalent across the country as highlighted in the recent publication of the IICSA inquiry
into CSE by organised networks.

“We hope this historic victory will provide an additional spur to police forces around the country to implement effective measures
to tackle this pernicious crime.” While this settlement brings an end to the women’s legal action against the police to an end,
proceedings are still ongoing against the Crown Prosecution Service.

The three survivors are hopeful that today’s apologies from Greater Manchester Police will encourage the CPS to engage with
them in a meaningful dialogue about a more victim-centred approach to child sexual abuse prosecutions...'
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Quote:Rochdale sex grooming victims receive apology from Greater Manchester Police

'...Maggie Oliver, a police officer who lifted the lid on the investigation and is now a prominent campaigner, said the apology
"has come 10 years too late". She told Sky News: "They have treated the victims with contempt. They have ignored every
reasonable request just to apologise. They have made those girls fight every single step of the way.

"They would not engage. They overran every single legal time limit that is in place. They feel they are above the law, and actually,
they really are in many respects." In 2008, a police investigation was launched into allegations of child sexual abuse and one victim
underwent hours of interviews about how she was systematically abused and raped by a group of men.
She also provided DNA evidence.

It became clear that there were other potential victims, but with the police under pressure to hit targets in other areas, the allegations
were not taken seriously enough. Often the potential victims were arrested for committing minor crimes such as being drunk and
disorderly, rather than police focusing on the men who were getting them drunk and raping them.

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Former police officer Maggie Oliver & The Unspoken-About Men.

The 11-month investigation ended with the Crown Prosecution Service deciding the interviewed victim was "not credible".

The abuse continued until a new investigation, Operation Span, was launched in 2010. Eventually, Nazir Afzal, the newly appointed
chief crown prosecutor for the North West, reversed the decision and the subsequent trial led to the conviction of nine men in May 2012.

Ms Oliver, an investigating officer at the time, said the police went for easier convictions with lower sentences and only focused on two
victims, downplaying the scale of the abuse. She said: "That case was not successful. A man who got a 13-year-old child pregnant, and
had a foetus, was out of prison in less than two years.

"He should have been charged with rape. We knew he was the father of that unborn child. I believe the authorities took the easy road
with the Rochdale case. Those men should be in prison for years."...'
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(04-13-2022, 04:57 PM)BIAD Wrote: Here's their 'we're-sorry-and-we-need-to-do-better-to-stop-a-certain-community-from-raping-you' message and never a mention of who conducted the organised grooming and never a comment of why they believed this could happen.

But, of course.  His admission wasn't coming from the end of the riding crop ever so needed when extracting confessions.  I'd opt for a bullwhip, but that requires some level of skill and an ample amount of space.
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(04-13-2022, 04:57 PM)BIAD Wrote:
Quote:Harriet Wistrich, director of CWJ, said: “The trial ten years ago was hailed as a victory, but it followed years of abject policing
failures. Sadly, such failures are still prevalent across the country as highlighted in the recent publication of the IICSA inquiry
into CSE by organised networks.

“We hope this historic victory will provide an additional spur to police forces around the country to implement effective measures
to tackle this pernicious crime.” While this settlement brings an end to the women’s legal action against the police to an end,
proceedings are still ongoing against the Crown Prosecution Service.

The three survivors are hopeful that today’s apologies from Greater Manchester Police will encourage the CPS to engage with
them in a meaningful dialogue about a more victim-centred approach to child sexual abuse prosecutions...'
Rochdale Online:
10 years ago. 
What about those victims of 5 years ago?
5 months ago? 5 minutes ago?
This is a never ending story, that is present in all walks of life, in every corner of the planet.
What is so inherently wrong with humans, that make so many of them prey on the youngest, the weakest, those that need us the most?
What is wrong in the brains of people that make them find a baby, a child, as a sex object?
I can't find anywhere in nature how this could be a natural or beneficial trait.
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(04-13-2022, 05:38 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: What is wrong in the brains of people that make them find a baby, a child, as a sex object?

I dunno.  There are some damned creepy people out there though.

We don't have the Insane Asylums, where these people should be penned up forever, anymore. And the law protects them from summary execution.
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It would seem those who hold power and privilege have a problem with being sexual deviants. If there was a media outlet large enough and brave enough to blast the endless sexual deviations of the monied and powerful, the world could change for the better.
However realistically most media is controlled by monied sexual miscreants so not bloody likely.
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(04-12-2022, 08:39 AM)BIAD Wrote: The same deceitful news-outlet are attempting to distract by involving a group of of letters and a '+'-sign.
The reading of this just doesn't make sense to me, a member of UK Parliament is disagreeing with a UK court
verdict and believes it will have 'dreadful wider implications for millions of LGBT+ Muslims around the world'.

How?
minusculethinking

I know how the British "Upper crust" are fond of stringing random letters together behind their names in an effort to appear more important or learned than they really are, but this appellation and conclusion are just as mystifying to me as they are to you. For what it's worth, the same odd urge to jam random letters together behind one's name appears to be catching on here in The Colonies as well, and is still just as mystifying.

I don't care what a person's religion or gender proclivities are, but when they delve into the realms of baby diddling, then they are done regardless of any of the above. They can henceforward never be cured, and the best course of action for all concerned is to simply put them out of our misery.

But I do note that LGBT+ individuals are already in pretty deep shit in Muslim countries, so I don't see what the gent is on about. Like you, I don't see how this verdict would change anything for them.

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A nonce is a nonce is a nonce.....and they always will be nonce's.
No rehabilitation for them; 6x6x6 cell, bread and water, bucket for their business, straw mat.
Maybe the odd spell on a good old fashioned chain gang for exercise.....maybe a modern day version of the stocks.

Unfortunately paedophillia crosses all social/political divides.
How it manifests itself does vary.

It has been statistically proven that men originating from a specific region in South Asia are more inclined to be involved in grooming gangs in the UK.
Many politicians, social commentators, criminologists etc have acknowledged this only to be criticised and demonised.
Many of the grooming gang investigations were downgraded, inadequately investigated and poorly reported.
More emphasis was placed on the alleged fear of revenge attacks and minimising racial disharmony than on seeking justice for the victims.
Is it just coincidence that the vast majority of these victims come from poor, broken, working class homes with very few people around to care what happens to them?
I'm certain that if the victims all came from 'respectable', middle class homes there would be much more severe response from 'the authorities' and far more publicity and outrage in MSM.

In addition, there are numerous reports of long standing 'Establishment' paedophile rings who have acted with more or less impunity for years.
Every now and then some aged, minor has-been is sacrificed to satisfy public demand but the practice continues unabated.
Its suspected that this isn't unique to the UK.

Sadly the largest number of paedophile attacks are carried put by family members - many, if not most, of whom were themselves abused.

I'm no expert, not by any stretch, but current policies simply aren't working.
Far too much burying heads in the sand, putting political sensibilities before what is simply right and proper.
Too much pandering to political wokeness.
Too much emphasis on rehabilitation and not enough on punishment.
And an outright determination to maintain the status quo that allows an elite to act and do as it see's fit and outside the laws that govern the rest of us plebs.

Quite damning really.
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(04-13-2022, 09:27 PM)Freeborn Wrote: I'm no expert, not by any stretch, but current policies simply aren't working.
Far too much burying heads in the sand, putting political sensibilities before what is simply right and proper.
Too much pandering to political wokeness.
Too much emphasis on rehabilitation and not enough on punishment.
And an outright determination to maintain the status quo that allows an elite to act and do as it see's fit and outside the laws that govern the rest of us plebs.

Quite damning really.

Was out on a case just this evening. I got a call from one of the detectives with a sexual assault of a"four" year old. No typo. A "four" year old. I don't do children under 14 years old. I am not certified for children under 14, and I don't have the stomach for it. 

Just got home an hour or so ago, and I still can't sleep. I even had a glass of wine, but it has not helped in the least. Can't get the child off my mind, and I did not catch the case.

There can't be anything redeemable in any person that would hurt a child in this way. I can't see any argument for how they should even be allowed to live in any society.

I guess the Christian stance would be that all people should be forgiven. I guess I am doomed to hell, because I can't forgive this act.
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(04-16-2022, 07:05 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: Was out on a case just this evening. I got a call from one of the detectives with a sexual assault of a"four" year old. No typo. A "four" year old. I don't do children under 14 years old. I am not certified for children under 14, and I don't have the stomach for it. 

Just got home an hour or so ago, and I still can't sleep. I even had a glass of wine, but it has not helped in the least. Can't get the child off my mind, and I did not catch the case.

There can't be anything redeemable in any person that would hurt a child in this way. I can't see any argument for how they should even be allowed to live in any society.

I guess the Christian stance would be that all people should be forgiven. I guess I am doomed to hell, because I can't forgive this act.

Don't feel too-bad about how you're reacting to this. It is abhorrent and against the societal rules of a civilised world whether
one believes in a higher power or even just natural evolution. Personally, I just double-tap the monster... but that's just me.
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(04-16-2022, 09:43 AM)BIAD Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 07:05 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: Was out on a case just this evening. I got a call from one of the detectives with a sexual assault of a"four" year old. No typo. A "four" year old. I don't do children under 14 years old. I am not certified for children under 14, and I don't have the stomach for it. 

Just got home an hour or so ago, and I still can't sleep. I even had a glass of wine, but it has not helped in the least. Can't get the child off my mind, and I did not catch the case.

There can't be anything redeemable in any person that would hurt a child in this way. I can't see any argument for how they should even be allowed to live in any society.

I guess the Christian stance would be that all people should be forgiven. I guess I am doomed to hell, because I can't forgive this act.

Don't feel too-bad about how you're reacting to this. It is abhorrent and against the societal rules of a civilised world whether
one believes in a higher power or even just natural evolution. Personally, I just double-tap the monster... but that's just me.
tinysure

Aye. It's easier to forgive when they are no longer walking and able to do more harm. Forgiveness is easier when you know that person will never do it again, and that forgiveness starts when they are making that little mewling noise and trying to crawl away on nerves that do not yet realize that they will never rise again to do harm.

But that's just my take. Other folks' mileage will vary.

Christianity was once far too violent a religion, but nowadays it has gone too far in the other direction of "walk all over us, please!"... but a careful reading of the Bible advocates balance in all things. Jesus said "suffer the little children to come to me", and seems to be rather fond of kids. If he whooped the crap out of all of the Money Changers at the temple with just a knotted rope and an angry attitude, one wonders what he would do to someone who did actual harm to those little kids he was so fond of...

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“The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people.”

-Aldous Huxley

-- Got mask? Just sayin'...




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(04-16-2022, 07:05 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(04-13-2022, 09:27 PM)Freeborn Wrote: I'm no expert, not by any stretch, but current policies simply aren't working.
Far too much burying heads in the sand, putting political sensibilities before what is simply right and proper.
Too much pandering to political wokeness.
Too much emphasis on rehabilitation and not enough on punishment.
And an outright determination to maintain the status quo that allows an elite to act and do as it see's fit and outside the laws that govern the rest of us plebs.

Quite damning really.

Was out on a case just this evening. I got a call from one of the detectives with a sexual assault of a"four" year old. No typo. A "four" year old. I don't do children under 14 years old. I am not certified for children under 14, and I don't have the stomach for it. 

Just got home an hour or so ago, and I still can't sleep. I even had a glass of wine, but it has not helped in the least. Can't get the child off my mind, and I did not catch the case.

There can't be anything redeemable in any person that would hurt a child in this way. I can't see any argument for how they should even be allowed to live in any society.

I guess the Christian stance would be that all people should be forgiven. I guess I am doomed to hell, because I can't forgive this act.

Don't feel guilty for feeling that way, these 'people' are pure scum.....they are beyond redemption.
They don't deserve the opportunity for redemption.

I do understand the urge to simply eliminate them - I would have no problem at all with personally getting rid of them - but I think that's too easy on them.
We should make them suffer.....and that punishment and suffering should be broadcast to all. 
Hopefully it would act as some sort of deterrent to other scumbag nonces.
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The slow frightened reality continues to unfold.


Quote:IN THE DOCK Eight grooming gang suspects in court for 82 child sex offences against girls

'Eight members of a suspected grooming gang appeared in court yesterday charged with 82 sex offences against girls.
The men were accused of “widespread sexual exploitation and abuse” of two youngsters aged between 12 and 16.

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Jahn Ghani, 49, appeared at court.

It follows the Operation Lytton probe into non-recent child sexual exploitation in Rochdale.
Manchester magistrates heard the offences allegedly took place between 2002 and 2006.

Accused are Mohammed Ghani, 37, Jahn Ghani, 49, Insar Hussain, 36, Ali Kasmi, 34, Mohammed Iqbal, 66,
Ikhlaq Yousef, 37, and Aftar Khan, 33, all of Rochdale, and Martin Rhodes, 36, of Blackpool.
The men were bailed until next month...'
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It seems after the war we're not at with Russia and the bad bout of the flu, England's capital is getting back to normal.
London is truly lost.




Quote:London crime: Horrifying week of violence on capital's streets including 5 stabbings, shooting and acid attack
This week has seen the shooting of a teenage girl, knife-related crime and public fights

'A week of violence has left Londoners reeling after the glorious weather was marred by reports of shootings, stabbings
and public brawls. Two people were found dead with knife wounds in the past week with a further three stabbings, a
shooting and an acid attack.

Since last weekend there has been a spate of violent crime across the capital in the aftermath of the Easter long weekend.
The Metropolitan Police, London Ambulance Service and other emergency services have been called out to an increasing
number of serious incidents as the weather improves and London gets busier.

MyLondon has collated a round-up of all the tragic incidents that have occurred this week.

King's Cross triple stabbing
Three people were stabbed during a serious incident in the early hours of Tuesday morning (April 19) on Pentonville Road
by Kings Cross rail station. Three men - aged 20, 20, and 23 - were rushed to hospital just after 5.30am after police and
paramedics responded to reports of a stabbing on Pentonville Road, in North London.

The men's injuries were not thought to be life-changing. The stabbings happened just yards from famous nightclub Scala
and has rocked residents with locals telling MyLondon the area is "dangerous" and "not safe".
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Elliot Francique.

Newham murder
Also on Tuesday police were called to reports of a stabbing at Hudson Close, Newham. Officers arrived at the scene at 3.20pm
and found a 20-year-old man with stab wounds at a residential address. Despite the work of paramedics, the man was declared
dead at the scene.

Police said at the time they believed they knew the man's identity and his next of kin had been informed, but that they had made
no arrests. He was later identified as Elliot Francique, with police saying his tragic death was a "frenzied" attack.
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Mosque targeted in possible racially aggravated attack
Later on April 19 volunteers at a mosque in East Ham were preparing food for the homeless and vulnerable people of the community
when a group of around 15 men attacked the building. Police were called at 9.06pm to Pilgrims Way, but the suspects had fled by
the time they arrived.

Eyewitnesses said there were about 15 males armed with wooden poles, beer bottles, fluorescent light tubes and stones.
One of the suspects reportedly attempted to set a bin on fire outside the building.

Several people sustained minor injuries in the attack. The Metropolitan Police said: "Police are investigating a report of racially
aggravated common assault following and incident outside a mosque in East Ham. A number of people suffered minor injuries
but did not require medical treatment. There will be extra patrols in the area. No arrests have been made. Enquiries continue."
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Man savagely beats woman at Hyde Park 420 cannabis event
An annual cannabis event ended in violent chaos on Wednesday (April 20) with multiple arrests made and two seemingly
simultaneous fights. Police made ten arrests as revellers spilled onto Oxford Street with a line of police and dogs clashing
with protesters.

A Met Police spokesperson confirmed the arrests were for an offensive weapon, one for possession of a knife, two for affray,
one for assaulting police, two for possession of Class A drugs, one for possession of Class B drugs, and one for possession
with intent to supply.

Grappling on the floor, a man in a ski mask threw multiple punches at a woman's face while holding her hair before a young
woman pulled him away. Others watched, laughed and filmed the savage assault. Police told MyLondon they were not aware
of any arrests connected to the brawl.
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Man found dead with knife wounds
Police were called to an address in Leslie Grove Place in Croydon at 6.29pm on Thursday (April 21) and found a 39-year-old
man with stab wounds. He was pronounced dead at the scene. Local residents told MyLondon the body might have been there
"for weeks with a knife in its chest".

They described being afraid to go out in their own street due to a rise in crime in the area. Police later said it is a possibility the
knife injuries were self-inflicted, but the exact cause of death is still unclear.
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Acid attack in broad daylight
A teenage boy is thought to have had a corrosive liquid thrown in his face outside Notting Hill Gate Underground Station on Friday
afternoon (April 22). Police rushed to the scene of the attack on the busy high street and arrested a teenage girl on suspicion of
grievous bodily harm, taking her into custody.

Medics from the London Ambulance Service joined police just after 3pm and treated the boy who was the victim of the 'acid attack'.
Police enquiries are ongoing.
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Lewisham shooting - teenage girl injured
Police were called to Lucas Street in Lewisham in the early hours of yesterday morning (Saturday April 23) to reports of a shooting
after residents heard five gun shots followed by "shouting and screaming".

A teenage girl was injured, but her injuries are not believed to be life-changing. Multiple bullet casings were sent for specialist analysis
and a black Mercedes was photographed in the middle of the scene.
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Machete attack in Elephant and Castle
Londoners were horrified on Saturday afternoon after witnessing a 'machete attack' on a street in Elephant and Castle. A man was
reportedly attacked by thugs wielding a hammer and machete outside a London Tube station.
The incident, thought to be an attempted motorbike theft, took place at around 6.20pm outside the Elephant and Castle underground
station.

Police rushed to the scene but those involved had already fled on mopeds. The Met said a machete was recovered from the scene.
There were no reports of any injuries and enquiries are ongoing.

"...One woman in her late 30s who was visiting from Gloucestershire, told MailOnline:
"I was walking back to Elephant and Castle, and something didn't feel right.
There was a bike on the floor, and another facing the wrong way.

I was walking with my aunt, and I said 'that man's got a knife', I could see the long blade...
I just thought I was going to see someone die.
I live in the country... it was one of the worst things I have ever seen. I just need to go back
to the countryside." (From Witness)
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A Clockwork Orange comes to mind.

With a little thought, Dante's Inferno begins to cloud the edges.
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(04-25-2022, 10:28 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: A Clockwork Orange comes to mind.

With a little thought, Dante's Inferno begins to cloud the edges.

There have been and are many other attacks and crimes that the MSM just refuse to properly investigate in London.
'A man is suspected...' and '...no arrests at this time' are common wordage when they do report the incidents, but the
root-causes are never spoken about.

The Journalists do the same when writing about Paris, they offer similar scenes from a sixties movie of sidewalk cafes
and intellectual-types chatting about their woes. They never report the real night-life around the city centre where
regular folk are warned to to venture after dark
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