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Florida Justice - NightskyeB4Dawn - 10-10-2022
If you don't live in Florida you may not be familiar with Sheriff Grady Judd. Grady is extremely interesting and I don't know if it is his love for press conferences, or his "Walking Tall" persona that keeps him in the hot seat.
He believes in survival law and justice. I just can't help feeling that he is just waiting for the right time to throw his cap into the ring. I just have not decided what position he is going to shoot for.
Quote:Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd: “if a looter breaks into your home ... take your gun and shoot him”
Oct 7, 2022
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd: “I would highly suggest that if a looter breaks into your home... To steal stuff, that you take your gun and you shoot him, you shoot him so that he looks like grated cheese
RE: Florida Justice - GeauxHomeLittleD - 10-10-2022
Reminds me of the cops where I'm from. After a hurricane city police pulled up in the driveway and told us if anyone tries to rob us or the neighbors to shoot first and ask questions later- no charges would be filed. Sheriff's deputy told my mom if anyone tried to break in to shoot them, drag them inside and then call them and say "I felt in fear for my life!" and they would handle the rest.
Lord I miss Texas law enforcement!
RE: Florida Justice - NightskyeB4Dawn - 10-10-2022
(10-10-2022, 07:34 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: If you don't live in Florida you may not be familiar with Sheriff Grady Judd. Grady is extremely interesting and I don't know if it is his love for press conferences, or his "Walking Tall" persona that keeps him in the hot seat.
He believes in survival law and justice. I just can't help feeling that he is just waiting for the right time to throw his cap into the ring. I just have not decided what position he is going to shoot for.
Quote:Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd: “if a looter breaks into your home ... take your gun and shoot him”
Oct 7, 2022
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd: “I would highly suggest that if a looter breaks into your home... To steal stuff, that you take your gun and you shoot him, you shoot him so that he looks like grated cheese
@"GeauxHomeLittleD"
I was told by a deputy a long while back,
"It is better to be tried by twelve, than carried by six."
He also told me to shoot the intruder that was trying to enter, and just pull his body the rest of the way in the house.
Oh, and he said,"Shoot to kill not to maim, it saves you a lot of grief and courtroom time."
But Florida is well known to be a bit off.
RE: Florida Justice - EndtheMadnessNow - 10-10-2022
(10-10-2022, 07:34 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: If you don't live in Florida you may not be familiar with Sheriff Grady Judd. Grady is extremely interesting and I don't know if it is his love for press conferences, or his "Walking Tall" persona that keeps him in the hot seat.
He believes in survival law and justice. I just can't help feeling that he is just waiting for the right time to throw his cap into the ring. I just have not decided what position he is going to shoot for.
I remember that sheriff going after all those Disney pedo's the past few years.
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd: 17 arrested for CP include Disney employees, nurse, underwear ‘ingester’
RE: Florida Justice - hounddoghowlie - 10-10-2022
(10-10-2022, 07:34 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: If you don't live in Florida you may not be familiar with Sheriff Grady Judd. Grady is extremely interesting and I don't know if it is his love for press conferences, or his "Walking Tall" persona that keeps him in the hot seat.
He believes in survival law and justice. I just can't help feeling that he is just waiting for the right time to throw his cap into the ring. I just have not decided what position he is going to shoot for.
Quote:Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd: “if a looter breaks into your home ... take your gun and shoot him”
Oct 7, 2022
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd: “I would highly suggest that if a looter breaks into your home... To steal stuff, that you take your gun and you shoot him, you shoot him so that he looks like grated cheese
our county sheriff, skip to the 2:33 mark for the good part.
his, stand on vaccines,
only one thing he does that i don't like, he loves spending tax payers money, i guess he wants people to do the shooting so he can spend more. but i guess i can live with that.
RE: Florida Justice - NightskyeB4Dawn - 10-10-2022
(10-10-2022, 09:00 PM)hounddoghowlie Wrote:(10-10-2022, 07:34 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: If you don't live in Florida you may not be familiar with Sheriff Grady Judd. Grady is extremely interesting and I don't know if it is his love for press conferences, or his "Walking Tall" persona that keeps him in the hot seat.
He believes in survival law and justice. I just can't help feeling that he is just waiting for the right time to throw his cap into the ring. I just have not decided what position he is going to shoot for.
Quote:Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd: “if a looter breaks into your home ... take your gun and shoot him”
Oct 7, 2022
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd: “I would highly suggest that if a looter breaks into your home... To steal stuff, that you take your gun and you shoot him, you shoot him so that he looks like grated cheese
I have to give respect to my job and the State, when some of the hospitals tried to demand that all vendors be vaccinated before entering their hospital. Not only did my employers and my coworkers stand in unity with me, the State lawyers shut that demand down in very short order. But I live in Florida, it may have gone another way if I lived in some other State.
our county sheriff, skip to the 2:33 mark for the good part.
his, stand on vaccines,
only one thing he does that i don't like, he loves spending tax payers money, i guess he wants people to do the shooting so he can spend more. but i guess i can live with that.
RE: Florida Justice - NightskyeB4Dawn - 10-10-2022
It is a horrible thought, but if parents don't do something to control this new normal of young people and their "A Clockwork Orange" behavior, folks are going to just take matters into their own hands, and people are going to be burying their children.
All these mass looting events, the attacking and terrorizing of innocent people just going about their lives, may look like fun on TikTok and the internet media, but people are getting tired, and the police are giving up.
I listen to people making ridiculous excuse for the bad behavior and criminal acts for their rebellious and undisciplined children. They want to be angry with everyone and anything, except themselves. It used to be a given, that most parents expected their children to out live them, the new normal is making that a very slim possibility, for way too many parents.
RE: Florida Justice - hounddoghowlie - 10-10-2022
(10-10-2022, 09:15 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: I have to give respect to my job and the State, when some of the hospitals tried to demand that all vendors be vaccinated before entering their hospital. Not only did my employers and my coworkers stand in unity with me, the State lawyers shut that demand down in very short order. But I live in Florida, it may have gone another way if I lived in some other State.
native Floridian myself, lived in a couple of other states, even Kommiefornia before it got real bad. but i always come back home.
i often say Florida was better off, when everybody thought we were just a bunch of dumb rednecks that didn't know any better. then they started moving down in droves, i may have to find me a new state when my mother passes. thing is she may live to be as old as her pop did, he died at 99. that's 20 more years.
RE: Florida Justice - NightskyeB4Dawn - 10-10-2022
(10-10-2022, 09:30 PM)hounddoghowlie Wrote: native Floridian myself, lived in a couple of other states, even Kommiefornia before it got real bad. but i always come back home.
i often say Florida was better off, when everybody thought we were just a bunch of dumb rednecks that didn't know any better. then they started moving down in droves, i may have to find me a new state when my mother passes. thing is she may live to be as old as her pop did, he died at 99. that's 20 more years.
I am in the same boat. My Mother is near 90. She will go anywhere I go, but she loves it here. We are surrounded with new construction, new towns, and new cities. We are being pushed out by gentrification, increased taxes, and ridiculously absurd new code restrictions and demands.
I don't think I will be able to remain here if it continues the way it is going. But everywhere is seeing the same thing happening.
So, if you find a place, that has not fallen and won't fall in the next 20 years, let me know.
RE: Florida Justice - Ninurta - 10-10-2022
(10-10-2022, 08:28 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: @"GeauxHomeLittleD"
I was told by a deputy a long while back,
"It is better to be tried by twelve, than carried by six."
He also told me to shoot the intruder that was trying to enter, and just pull his body the rest of the way in the house.
Oh, and he said,"Shoot to kill not to maim, it saves you a lot of grief and courtroom time."
But Florida is well known to be a bit off.
It's not just Florida and Texas.
Many years ago, I used to train cops in Virginia. We've said "it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6" at least since those days, and I suspect much farther back.
One day we had a bunch of current police and deputies at the academy for their annual 2 weeks of :"in service" training. During a break, making conversation, I asked a veteran cop whether he would shoot to kill or shoot to wound, and his response was "I won't say which I'd do, but I will say that dead men tell no tales, and in court it would be my word against his if he accidentally up and died of lead poisoning... and he wouldn't be saying many words to contradict me".
In Virginia, the "drag 'em inside before you call the cops" is an old wives tale. All you have to have here is evidence that they were trying to break in, like jimmying scars on a door or window, and your statement that you were in fear for your life, whether the body is inside or outside. Matter of fact, dragging a body inside here could get you imprisoned for tampering with evidence if you don't have a damned good reason for it, something like "he was still alive but had labored breathing, and I had to get him inside into the light to administer CPR.", so we don't do that in Virginia. We just let 'em bleed out on the welcome mat if that's where we have to shoot 'em.
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RE: Florida Justice - Finspiracy - 10-11-2022
I dunno, my opinion does not count. We do not have extreme weather conditions in Finland. Maybe some strong winds sometimes, and powers might be off for some people for a little while.
WTF is this "You loot, we shoot" policy? Or "Shoot first, ask questions later" God damn...
What if the person entering someones home is hungry and thirsty, without a shelter? Not there looking for valuable items to steal?
What if you Americans try to act based on heart for a while, and not your trigger finger?
RE: Florida Justice - hounddoghowlie - 10-11-2022
(10-11-2022, 03:34 AM)Finspiracy Wrote: I dunno, my opinion does not count. We do not have extreme weather conditions in Finland. Maybe some strong winds sometimes, and powers might be off for some people for a little while.
WTF is this "You loot, we shoot" policy? Or "Shoot first, ask questions later" God damn...
What if the person entering someones home is hungry and thirsty, without a shelter? Not there looking for valuable items to steal?
What if you Americans try to act based on heart for a while, and not your trigger finger?
food and water is one thing,anything else that is not needed to survive is theft. like when you go into shoe stores and tote out 50 pair of kicks or box stores steal tv's, computers, washing machines, 100 piece tool sets or anything that can be pawned or sold, liquor stores and take cases of beer and hard liquorand smokes that's got nothing to with survival, that's just plain out theft and that's mainly what being talked about.
not only that stealing food and water from somebody that has just as little or less than you is also sorry. you will find that most people will help if you ask and don't take.
RE: Florida Justice - Finspiracy - 10-11-2022
(10-11-2022, 04:09 AM)hounddoghowlie Wrote: food and water is one thing,anything else that is not needed to survive is theft. like when you go into shoe stores and tote out 50 pair of kicks or box stores steal tv's, computers, washing machines, 100 piece tool sets or anything that can be pawned or sold, liquor stores and take cases of beer and hard liquorand smokes that's got nothing to with survival, that's just plain out theft and that's mainly what being talked about.
not only that stealing food and water from somebody that has just as little or less than you is also sorry. you will find that most people will help if you ask and don't take.
Yeah basically i agree, but...
How is it right to shoot someone if that person loots a fucking TV?
"An eye for an eye would make the whole world blind"
And that is not even an eye for an eye. It is a human life for a television.
RE: Florida Justice - Finspiracy - 10-11-2022
(10-11-2022, 04:09 AM)hounddoghowlie Wrote: you will find that most people will help if you ask and don't take.
And in what fairy tale unicorn universe does this work? Not here...
I don't even ask anymore. Humans are greedy and trying to save their own skin.
I do not steal either. "I am a lot of things, but i am not a thief"
RE: Florida Justice - Ninurta - 10-11-2022
(10-11-2022, 03:34 AM)Finspiracy Wrote: I dunno, my opinion does not count. We do not have extreme weather conditions in Finland. Maybe some strong winds sometimes, and powers might be off for some people for a little while.
WTF is this "You loot, we shoot" policy? Or "Shoot first, ask questions later" God damn...
What if the person entering someones home is hungry and thirsty, without a shelter? Not there looking for valuable items to steal?
What if you Americans try to act based on heart for a while, and not your trigger finger?
There is food and water all over the place here, and it's a lot less dangerous to find your own than to try to take someone else's.
Still, if they don't know how to find their own tucker, then they need to knock on the door and ask, like humans do, rather than breaking in and taking, like criminals do. If they break in, then they just bought their own bullet.
Maybe Finnish home-breakers are really nice people who only occasionally break in to rob, rape, and steal, but American home-breakers are criminal bastards, and have to be dealt with. If they will break in, then they will also kill you. I have family to protect, and I have family to feed. if someone breaks in, they are a threat to my family's safety, and if they take food, they are taking food out of my family's mouths.
Either one will earn them a shallow grave in a really pretty, but out of the way, spot. Shallow, because I ain't spending a whole lot of time or effort to dig deep to bury a criminal. The coyotes can have the carcass for all I care.
It's not that I value my stuff more than I value their life, it's that THEY value my stuff more than they value their life. THEY make that choice, not me, when they decide to break in.
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RE: Florida Justice - Finspiracy - 10-11-2022
(10-11-2022, 06:33 AM)Ninurta Wrote: There is food and water all over the place here, and it's a lot less dangerous to find your own than to try to take someone else's.
Still, if they don't know how to find their own tucker, then they need to knock on the door and ask, like humans do, rather than breaking in and taking, like criminals do. If they break in, then they just bought their own bullet.
Maybe Finnish home-breakers are really nice people who only occasionally break in to rob, rape, and steal, but American home-breakers are criminal bastards, and have to be dealt with. If they will break in, then they will also kill you. I have family to protect, and I have family to feed. if someone breaks in, they are a threat to my family's safety, and if they take food, they are taking food out of my family's mouths.
Either one will earn them a shallow grave in a really pretty, but out of the way, spot. Shallow, because I ain't spending a whole lot of time or effort to dig deep to bury a criminal. The coyotes can have the carcass for all I care.
It's not that I value my stuff more than I value their life, it's that THEY value my stuff more than they value their life. THEY make that choice, not me, when they decide to break in.
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I can understand that mindset and principle. And i do not even have any counter arguments that would make any difference, regarding the conversation.
I think it is just 2 very different cultures colliding here.
RE: Florida Justice - Finspiracy - 10-11-2022
And i am a criminal, by the way.
Recreational cannabis smoking is a crime in Finland.
So, dehumanize me all you want, and see if that is something i have not encountered before.
RE: Florida Justice - Ninurta - 10-11-2022
(10-11-2022, 07:01 AM)Finspiracy Wrote: And i am a criminal, by the way.
Recreational cannabis smoking is a crime in Finland.
So, dehumanize me all you want, and see if that is something i have not encountered before.
Is there only one tier of criminality in Finland?
There is a big difference between someone just doing their thing and not trying to hurt me and someone whose thing IS trying to hurt me. One I can ignore, because what they do is none of my business, the other has to be dealt with rough, because intentionally trying to injure me or mine IS my business.
There is a big difference between mere "illegality" and actual "criminality".
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RE: Florida Justice - NightskyeB4Dawn - 10-11-2022
(10-11-2022, 04:44 AM)Finspiracy Wrote:(10-11-2022, 04:09 AM)hounddoghowlie Wrote: you will find that most people will help if you ask and don't take.
And in what fairy tale unicorn universe does this work? Not here...
I don't even ask anymore. Humans are greedy and trying to save their own skin.
I do not steal either. "I am a lot of things, but i am not a thief"
Finn, we have numerous food banks and food pantries. There are places where you can get clothing, for yourself and for your children.
No one breaks into a home in America to find food or clothing.
During an emergency or disasters, people travel from all over the US to offer food, water, clothing, and aide.
Looters post disaster, are pretty low, and it is never about food or water.
Personally, I don't own anything that is worth a person's life. But I will try to protect the life of my loved ones and neighbors, from the hands of anyone that is so callous as to take advantage of those suffering through such calamity.
The opportunist, looters and thieves have little regard for the property or the lives of others.
You give me hope Finn. There really are too many greedy and selfish folk out there. You remind me that they are still a minority. The goods guys are still hanging in there.
RE: Florida Justice - Finspiracy - 10-11-2022
(10-11-2022, 07:13 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Is there only one tier of criminality in Finland?
Well, What do you think, Mr. Rhetorical?
You made a clear distinction between a criminal and a human being, and there is no way around it.