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Values- Old School Versus Everyone gets a trophy - Armonica_Templar - 05-24-2016 NFL Dad Sends Powerful Message by Confiscating Kids’ ‘Trophies for Nothing’ Quote:Controversy around the idea of kids receiving trophies simply for participating in athletics or other activities has been roiling among parents for a while. Last year, a poll conducted by Reason magazine found opinions on participation trophies were split — with a majority of Americans, 57 percent, saying only the winners should get trophies. When results were broken down by age, however, it became clear that younger Americans (those between 18 and 24) believed all kids should be rewarded, inspiring a Washington Post article to dub that age group the “participation-trophy generation.” Well.. It is a discussion everyone needs to have A value laden conversation avoiding the pitfalls of gotcha questions In fact, this conversation is at the centerpiece of the story I am writing.. In several example already written -Abigail let her dog get out and get badly injured Andros made her put the dog down.. Then made her dig the whole all by herself and cover the dog back up -Regina's policy on her kids love life They boys will stay out of meddling in your love life and little hellion you stay out of theirs *** please note this include the issue of Andros's Relationship with Regina and how her son responds to it -Use of corporal discipline in the future Navy Time no longer wasted with minor NJPs an PC bs.. watched and monitored by intelligence to prevent bloody bullies -andros leaving sailors in the water Delivery and protection of two living dead to prevent the spread of the infection -Andros's relationship with Austin A mess- life is not fair and even after miracles, you have deal with your issues Their are hundreds of others examples in fiction and real life.. So what do you think? I leave this with a tale of two individuals with criminal records.. Take a wild guess which one is not in jail right now a) having issues with the law still Blamed aunt for situation that got him in there then blamed girlfriend for leaving him and screwing him over Opinion is he is getting screwed by the system, and is not at fault b)brother is in jail, and still having issues with the law trying to be a rap star working way up in several fast food Opinion, he is responsible for everything that has and will happen to him.. No excuses Both have just about the same habits guess which ones moral center and values have kept him freed Keep in mind I told both about the other RE: Values- Old School Versus Everyone gets a trophy - senona - 05-24-2016 In my opinion, it only hurts a kid when they receive a "trophy" for NOTHING It is a part of life (growing pains) to experience failure, which is supposed to make one try that much harder next time. But if they get awards regardless, it has no value. There is no pride in getting a trophy for simply "being there" Life as a whole is full of let downs/failures So this type of mentality is only giving the kid the ILLUSION that all is hunky dory and perfect What is the purpose of this anyway? So their feelings don't get hurt????? Hey guess what, that is part of developing one's character as they get older How kids handle day to day events We need to stop cuddling them and treating them like they are made out of China That will NOT prepare them for REAL LIFE!! Only hinder them when they EXPECT everything to be just so Dunno, I personally do not get this way of thinking, wanting to give everyone a trophy even when they DO NOT deserve it Time for parents to act like parents and stop pampering their kids That only hurts them in the long run, unless the parents intend on them living with them when they are into their 40's BTW, in case you couldn't tell, I am 100% old school and do not approve of giving everyone a trophy "just because" “Everything in life should be earned”
RE: Values- Old School Versus Everyone gets a trophy - Armonica_Templar - 05-24-2016 Victor Davis Hanson: The Hypocrisy Behind The Student Renaming Craze Quote:iversity students across the country — at Amherst, Georgetown, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, UC Berkeley and dozens of other campuses — are caught up in yet another new fad. This is a good place to get the first part the meat of out around the world slaughtered sheep, cow, pig, and gator burger So we have the Generation appearing at the colleges I participated Here is the problem and it is why they have an issue of not getting jobs and millions in debt Why do you go to college? One word answer Training So these students are not being shown training.. "We are offended by your insensitivities.." Sexiest comment, "The girl did look cute.. Why I advise a friend go to college, but wear a condom.." The truth is you who are not getting those jobs have forgot a few things Why you went to college and spent the money You appear as a generation to have spent more time socializing and less time mastering your chosen craft Remember the only truth in town, everything that happens to you in the end is your fault It stops you from being a victim, and give you power So the next line of, Well they lied about the job prospects (well my recruiter said...... lol) buyer beware.. You are big boys and girls now, welcome to the real world The value of the education is not based on name brand alone to you kardashin slash prada wearing mofos who eat ramen noodles at night but live in 3000 a month lofts it based on what you learn and the quality of that education Now you do have some sympathy from me your parents are either F#$%ing idiots or they are laughing with me at you either way Your only hope is to accept you got yourself into that boat, now get yourself the F#$% out of it Old school idea I am responsible Everyone gets a trophy They did it to me Guess which one of us has no more college debt and doesnt pay rent RE: Values- Old School Versus Everyone gets a trophy - Minstrel - 05-24-2016 There are those that will never get trophies, for no fault of their own (born that way); and those that will always get trophies...because they were born that way. Trophies excite the ego. Maybe that's good...maybe not. Maybe someone defied the odds and worked their tail off to beat their opponents/foes/classmates... The victory, itself, should be enough. Trophies that say "I was there" are like t-shirts... They become more ragged & useless every time they are worn. Why do we need trophies, anyway? BTW - I liked the trophies I got, but honestly don't know where any of them are, today. RE: Values- Old School Versus Everyone gets a trophy - Armonica_Templar - 05-24-2016 37-year-old who says she can't get a lawyer job after applying to 150 firms loses her lawsuit against her school Quote:A jury has ruled against a 37-year-old graduate of the Thomas Jefferson School of Law who claimed that the school defrauded her when she attended nearly a decade ago, The San Diego Union-Tribune reported. and a little later Quote:But despite her academic successes, she said, Alaburda has been unable to find full-time employment as a lawyer. Now to the trophy gen Do we see the error here? Here is the major issue She expects to recieve a job equal to what she spent it is the equivalent of letting the car salesman tell you that the lotus is affordable.. Besides you will be able to impress people and it will pay for itself See the problem Issues here -no networking listed You know prehustle and internships -no cases I see no attempt to gather up some cases make a name for herself in the bush leagues So lets get to the most of old fashion value measure stick I can think of Lets say you match a person of interest in a terror attack The cops are breathing down your neck Would you hire this woman to represent you? Why was that the answer? After all she has a degree in the field So old schools vote is no Trophy Gen's vote?? RE: Values- Old School Versus Everyone gets a trophy - senona - 05-24-2016 She does not want to work her way to the top by accepting anything less than what she is expecting to get as a job. She wants it given to her on a silver platter, instead of earning/working her way towards a good job False high expectations, not realistic ones sadly Even if the school exaggerated the results, she should have never took it for granted, her mistake IMO In the real world, no one lands the "perfect" job right out of college..... unless you come from an influential family with ties One thing I have learned over the years, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. RE: Values- Old School Versus Everyone gets a trophy - Minstrel - 05-24-2016 Quote:Armonica_Templar wrote: I agree with the general notion that the degree guarantees nothing. I don't know that I can go so far as to make the judgment that is asked for, without a lot more information. Did the school oversell? I have known schools that oversold. True, the prospective student has to be gullible to some extent, and thus responsible for the end-result, but I find fault on both sides of that equation. As you say (old school) - If she would get to work on improving her weaknesses (in her chosen field of law), she might find herself gainfully employed as a short-term result. I work for an attorney who is not practicing as an attorney, because the field was overrun at the time that he graduated (short story). He uses his legal expertise in another way than 'practicing law'. |