Quote:What Is Duo?

One of the supposed benefits of the process that I don't feel comfortable about.

Establish device trust. Once access is granted, Duo enables your organization to see every device that is connected to your network and applications and easily monitor device health and compliance.

(09-15-2022, 11:26 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: It's no more invasive than any other app. I have it on my phone because that was my granddaughter's preferred video chat app before she hit puberty and became too cool to video chat with her granny. I think the Messenger app and Face Time apps are probably more invasive to be honest although Duo doesn't have as many cool doodads on it. Also Duo is a Google app so if you have anything Google on your phone (search engine, maps, Gmail, Youtube, etc.) they wont be accessing anymore than they already are anyway.

(09-15-2022, 11:28 PM)Ninurta Wrote: If it were me, I would buy a "burner" phone to install the app on, and minimize what personal data I carried on that phone. Name or pseudonym would be about the extent of it. If the burner had "location services", I would disable that, as well as all Google apps and web browsing to thee extent feasible and still maintain connection to work via the app, and then use that phone only for work related things, and nothing else, keeping my real phone for all personal communications.

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(09-16-2022, 03:07 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: On a positive note, Cisco Systems is one the more respected companies when it comes to network security, especially enterprise networks like with hospitals.

(09-15-2022, 11:30 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: The Duo app that my job wants us to download is not the same as the video app. It is a security app that allows my job access to my computer devices.

(09-16-2022, 05:55 AM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: My mistake! I would talk to my boss and ask since they want to dictate what apps are on your phone that you use for work if it wouldn't be more than fair for them to supply you with a company phone.

(09-16-2022, 06:29 AM)kdog Wrote: Definitely ask for a company phone. 

You should not be forced to use your personal for work unless they are willing to pay for it.

(09-16-2022, 06:29 AM)kdog Wrote: Definitely ask for a company phone. 

You should not be forced to use your personal for work unless they are willing to pay for it.

(09-16-2022, 01:05 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(09-16-2022, 06:29 AM)kdog Wrote: Definitely ask for a company phone. 

You should not be forced to use your personal for work unless they are willing to pay for it.

@"NightskyeB4Dawn" ☝☝☝☝☝

Take the government cell ... and only use it during duty hours.

Remember ... especially in your line of work ... that the implied tasks that come with carrying a phone change your pay status.  You move from 'whatever' to stand-by.  Stand-by status is usually a 10% increase in your base pay (at least it is on the Fed side). If you work for the Fed, take the phone, and then make an appointment at CPAC/CPOC to get your PD updated. When you retire, you can split the difference in your retirement pay with me. 

(09-16-2022, 02:32 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:

(09-16-2022, 01:05 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(09-16-2022, 06:29 AM)kdog Wrote: Definitely ask for a company phone. 

You should not be forced to use your personal for work unless they are willing to pay for it.

@"NightskyeB4Dawn" ☝☝☝☝☝

Take the government cell ... and only use it during duty hours.

Remember ... especially in your line of work ... that the implied tasks that come with carrying a phone change your pay status.  You move from 'whatever' to stand-by.  Stand-by status is usually a 10% increase in your base pay (at least it is on the Fed side). If you work for the Fed, take the phone, and then make an appointment at CPAC/CPOC to get your PD updated. When you retire, you can split the difference in your retirement pay with me. 

I would not right now make any noise about a raise in pay. They just raised our pay by a "significant" amount, less than a year ago. Most of what I have ever asked for, they have given me, without much of a fight. In fact, they are always asking me, what I need.

This is not about money. I just don't want any more of my personal information sitting in a government database, than is absolutely necessary. Though even that point is probably mute.

Having started life being raised on military bases, growing up as an Army brat, working for the Navy, after high school, having spent four years in the Air Force, and my father working for the CIA, they probably already have a file on me greater than the encyclopedia Britannica.

At this stage of my life, and working for the State, this file would likely be named, "Epilogue".

(09-16-2022, 07:22 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(09-16-2022, 02:32 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:

(09-16-2022, 01:05 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(09-16-2022, 06:29 AM)kdog Wrote: Definitely ask for a company phone. 

You should not be forced to use your personal for work unless they are willing to pay for it.

@"NightskyeB4Dawn" ☝☝☝☝☝

Take the government cell ... and only use it during duty hours.

Remember ... especially in your line of work ... that the implied tasks that come with carrying a phone change your pay status.  You move from 'whatever' to stand-by.  Stand-by status is usually a 10% increase in your base pay (at least it is on the Fed side). If you work for the Fed, take the phone, and then make an appointment at CPAC/CPOC to get your PD updated. When you retire, you can split the difference in your retirement pay with me. 

I would not right now make any noise about a raise in pay. They just raised our pay by a "significant" amount, less than a year ago. Most of what I have ever asked for, they have given me, without much of a fight. In fact, they are always asking me, what I need.

This is not about money. I just don't want any more of my personal information sitting in a government database, than is absolutely necessary. Though even that point is probably mute.

Having started life being raised on military bases, growing up as an Army brat, working for the Navy, after high school, having spent four years in the Air Force, and my father working for the CIA, they probably already have a file on me greater than the encyclopedia Britannica.

At this stage of my life, and working for the State, this file would likely be named, "Epilogue".

Your only option that I can see is to get a secondary device, whether GI or personally purchased, to use for work only. A cheap Wally World "smart" phone or a cheap tablet ought to do the trick. The only thing that device will know about you is "she's a forensic nurse, and handles grotie shit", and they already have that data on you, so no harm done.

You would be amazed what most folks keep on their electronics. I once hacked my sister's computer from half a world away, and ransacked it to get all sorts of data. Then I messaged her and asked her if she wanted an "internet cup holder", and when she said "sure", I popped out her CD tray from way over there. The I zipped up all her data - banking data, where her kids whet to school, just all kinds of stuff, and e-mailed it to her with a note - "you've got too much personal data on your computer, and that makes you a sitting duck. Fix it."

With a work-only device, and enough self control to keep it work only, then only work related data sits there, and they already have all that info.

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(09-19-2022, 02:37 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: I think I started something. It won't be the first time.

The staff is trying to arrange a meeting with the higher ups to discuss compensation and reimbursement. I guess I am not the only one that does not want to take on the expense of a second phone.

(09-19-2022, 02:37 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: I think I started something. It won't be the first time.

The staff is trying to arrange a meeting with the higher ups to discuss compensation and reimbursement. I guess I am not the only one that does not want to take on the expense of a second phone.