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#61
(03-03-2022, 10:09 AM)Ninurta Wrote:
(03-03-2022, 09:01 AM)Kenzo Wrote: Finnish defence forces channel:


Beautiful place. If it wasn't for the snow and cold, I could be persuaded to move there and secure... oh, I dunno... maybe a solid 2 meters of your border with Russia.


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I dont like snow and cold either . I wish it was allways summer .
#62
Big Russian oil company Lukoil  seem to have different opinion than Putin


Russian oil giant Lukoil calls for halt to Ukraine war
#63
Maybe a little HISTORY ?
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2...p-ukraine/
Quote:How and Why the US Government Perpetrated the 2014 Coup in Ukraine
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Eric Zuesse
[/url][Image: 4tonPx6ZVVE9r7ECg0qIKaFDElw.png]June 3, 2018
© Photo: Public domain
This will document that the ‘new Cold War’ between the US and Russia did not start, as the Western myth has it, with Russia’s involvement in the breakaway of Crimea and Donbass from Ukraine, after Ukraine — next door to Russia — had suddenly turned rabidly hostile toward Russia in February 2014. Ukraine’s replacing its democratically elected [url=http://washingtonsblog.com/2015/03/160-billion-cost-ukraines-viktor-yanukovych-spurned-eus-offer-20-nov-2013.html]neutralist Government in February 2014, by a rabidly anti-Russian Government, was a violent event, which produced many corpses. It’s presented in The West as having been a ‘revolution’ instead of a coup; but whatever it was, it certainly generated the ‘new Cold War’ (the economic sanctions and NATO buildup on Russia’s borders); and, to know whether it was a coup, or instead a revolution, is to know what actually started the ‘new Cold War’, and why. So, this is historically very important.
Incontrovertible proofs will be presented here not only that it was a coup, but that this coup was organized by the US Government — that the US Government initiated the ‘new Cold War’; Russia’s Government reacted to America’s aggression, which aims to place nuclear missiles in Ukraine, less than ten minutes flight-time from Moscow. During the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, America had reason to fear Soviet nuclear missiles 103 miles from America’s border. But, after America’s Ukrainian coup in 2014, Russia has reason to fear NATO nuclear missiles not just near, but on, Russia’s border. That would be catastrophic.
If America’s successful February 2014 overthrow and replacement of Ukraine’s democratically elected neutralist Government doesn’t soon produce a world-ending nuclear war (World War III), then there will be historical accounts of that overthrow, and the accounts are already increasingly trending and consolidating toward a historical consensus that it was a coup — that it was imposed by “somebody from the new coalition” — i.e., that the termination of the then-existing democratic (though like all its predecessors, corrupt) Ukrainian Government, wasn’t authentically a ‘revolution’ such as the US Government has contended, and certainly wasn’t at all democratic, but was instead a coup (and a very bloody one, at that), and totally illegal (though backed by The West). 
The purpose of the present article will be to focus attention on precisely whom the chief people are who were responsible for perpetrating this globally mega-dangerous (‘Cold-War’-igniting) coup — and thus for creating the world’s subsequent course increasingly toward global nuclear annihilation. 
If there will be future history, then these are the individuals who will be in the docks for that history’s harshest and most damning judgments, even if there will be no legal proceedings brought against them. Who, then, are these people?
Clearly, Victoria Nuland, US President Barack Obama’s central agent overseeing the coup, at least during the month of February 2014 when it climaxed, was crucial not only in overthrowing the existing Ukrainian Government, but in selecting and installing its rabidly anti-Russian replacement. The 27 January 2014 phone-conversation between her and America’s Ambassador in Ukraine, Jeffrey Pyatt was a particularly seminal event, and it was uploaded to youtube on 4 February 2014. I have discussed elsewhere that call and its significance. Nuland there and then abandoned the EU’s hope for a still democratic but less corrupt future government for Ukraine, and Nuland famously said, on that call “Fuck the EU,” and she instructed Pyatt to choose instead the rabidly anti-Russian, and far-right, Arseniy Yatsenyuk. This key event occurred 24 days before Ukraine’s President Victor Yanukovych was overthrown on February 20th, and 30 days before the new person to head Ukraine’s Government, Yatsenyuk, became officially appointed to rule the now clearly fascist country. He won that official designation on February 26th. However, this was only a formality: Obama’s agent had already chosen him, on January 27th.
The second landmark item of evidence that it had been a coup and nothing at all democratic or a ‘revolution’, was the 26 February 2014 phone-conversation between the EU’s Foreign Minister Catherine Ashton and her agent in Ukraine investigating whether the overthrow had been a revolution or instead a coup; he was Estonia’s Foreign Minister, Urmas Paet, and he told her that he found that it had been a coup, and that “somebody from the new coalition” had engineered it — but he didn’t know whom that “somebody” was. Both Ashton and Paet were shocked at this finding, but they proceeded immediately to ignore that matter, and to discuss only the prospects for Europe’s investors in Ukraine, to be able to get their money back — their obsession was Ukraine's corruption. Ashton told Paet that she had herself told the Maidan demonstrators, “you need to find ways in which you can establish a process that will have anti-corruption at its heart.” So, though the EU was unhappy that this had been a coup, they were far more concerned to protect their investors. In any case, the EU clearly wasn’t behind Ukraine's coup. Equally clearly, they didn’t much care whether it was a coup or instead what the US Government said, a ‘revolution'.
Then, on 1 March 2013, the implementation of this plan started: the first “tech camp” to train far-right Ukrainians how to organize online the mass-demonstrations against Yanukovych, was held inside the US Embassy in Kiev on that date, which was over nine months before the Maidan demonstrations to overthrow Ukraine’s democratically elected President started, on 20 November 2013.
The American scholar Gordon M. Hahn has specialized in studying the evidence regarding whom the actual snipers were who committed the murders, but he focuses only on domestic Ukrainian snipers and ignores the foreign ones, who had been hired by the US regime indirectly through Georgian, Lithuanian and other anti-Russian CIA assets (such as via Mikheil Saakashvili, the ousted President of Georgia whom the US regime subsequently selected to become the Governor of the Odessa region of Ukraine). Hahn’s 2018 book Ukraine Over the Edge states on pages 204-209: 
"Yet another pro-Maidan sniper, Ivan Bubenchik, emerged to acknowledge that he shot and killed Berkut [the Government’s police who were protecting Government buildings] before any protesters were shot that day [February 20th]. In a print interview, Bubenchik previews his admission in Vladimir Tikhii’s documentary film, Brantsy, that he shot ahd killed two Berkut commanders in the early morning hours of February 20 on the Maidan. … Bubenchik claims that [on February 20] the Yanukovich regime started the fire in the Trade Union House — where his and many other EuroMaidan fighters lived during the revolt — prompting the Maidan’s next reaction. As noted above, however, pro-Maidan neofascists have revealed that the Right Sector started that fire. … Analysis of the snipers’ massacre shows that the Maidan protesters initiated almost all — at least six out of a possible eight — of the pivotal escalatory moments of violence and/or coercion. … The 30 November 2013 nighttime assault on the Maidan demonstrators is the only clear exception from a conclusive pattern of escalating revolutionary violence led by the Maidan’s relatively small but highly motivated and well-organized neofascist element."
Although Hahn’s book barely cites the first and most detailed academic study of the climactic coup period of late February, Ivan Katchanovski’s poorly written “The ‘Snipers’ Massacre’ on the Maidan in Ukraine”, which was issued on 5 September 2015, Hahn’s is consistent with that: both works conclude that the available evidence, as Katchanovski puts it, shows that:
“The massacre was a false flag operation, which was rationally planned and carried out with a goal of the overthrow of the government and seizure of power. It [his investigation] found various evidence of the involvement of an alliance of the far right organizations, specifically the Right Sector and Svoboda, and oligarchic parties, such as Fatherland. Concealed shooters and spotters were located in at least 20 Maidan-controlled buildings or areas.”
Hahn downplays US heading of the coup. But shortly before the coup, the CIA secretly trained in Poland the Right Sector founder/leader Dmitriy Yarosh ("Dmytro Jarosz"), who headed Ukraine’s snipers. So, even the Ukrainian ones were working for the US
On 19 November 2017 was issued Gian Micalessin’s “The hidden truth about Ukraine – Part 1” 

& Part 2

Summarizing them here: Two Georgian snipers say Saakashvili hired them in Tbilisi for a US-backed operation. But they know only about the “Georgian Legion” part. They think it was patterned on Georgia’s Rose Revolution. They each got $1000 for the operation and flew to Kiev on 15 January and were promised $5000 on return. (9:00) “We had to provoke the ‘Berkut’ police so they would attack the people. By February 15th the situation [at the Maidan] was getting worse every day. Then the first shots were fired.” It was February 15 or 16. Mamunashvili [Saakashvili’s man] introduced them to “an American military guy, … Brian Christopher Boyenger” a former “sniper for the 101st Airborne Division” who “after Maidan he went to Donbass” to fight in the “Georgian Legion” but during the coup-climax, the far-right Andriy “Parubiy came very often,” and “Brian always accompanied him” and also instructing there was Vladimir Parasyuk, one of the leaders of the Maidan. The snipers were told not to aim but just to kill people randomly, to create chaos. There were also two Lithuanian snipers in the room. Some went down from the Ukraine Hotel to the second floor of the Conservatory Building, balcony. “They started to take out the guns and distributed them to each group.” “Then I heard shots from the next room” It lasted 15 minutes, then they were all ordered to escape.
On 13 February 2015 was telecast a German documentary, “Maidan Snipers. German TV expose. ARD Monitor. Eng Subs” in which one of the demonstrators said that many of the bullets were fired from buildings controlled by the demonstrators, but that “We were also shot at from the other direction.” However, at least before 21 February 2014, police (Berkut) were seized by demonstrators and at least the possibility exists that some of the Right Sector snipers were taking positions in and especially atop some of the government buildings so as to fire down into the crowd and seem to be firing from Yanukovych’s side. Gordon Hahn hasn’t been able to verify any firing in February 2014 by the Yanukovych government. Moreover: “they were the same snipers, killing people from both sides.”
On 1 February 2016 was posted to youtube a French documentary, “Ukraine — Masks of the Revolution” which shows, from a meeting at Davos, at 48:00, Victoria Nuland, the announcer trying to speak with her and saying to the audience, “The US diplomat who came to support the Revolution, could she really ignore the existence of the paramilitaries?”; 48:50 Larry Summers at a meeting in Kiev during 10-12 September 2015 and then later at the “12th YES Annual Meeting” saying, “Ukraine is an essential outpost of our fundamental military interests”; 49:25: Petraeus also shown there and the announcer says, “He also thinks that Ukraine is essential to block Putin.” Petraeus urges investment in Ukraine to block Russia; 51:00 McChrystal there also urges arming Ukraine; 51:50 Nuland is there and the announcer says: “The country that is most invested in Ukraine’s future is the US” “She is the architect of America’s influence in Ukraine.” Nuland says there at the “YES” meeting, “We had a significant impact on the battlefield.” But the US regime blames Russia for that war.
Gordon Hahn’s restriction of blame for the coup only to native Ukrainian nazis doesn’t fit the evidence, because there clearly is leadership of Ukraine’s nazis by the US regime. Furthermore, the US regime and its Ukrainian client-state are the only two nations at the U.N. who vote and repeatedly to back fascism, nazism and Holocaust-denial. The anti-Russia nazis took over America’s Government, which has taken over Ukraine’s. All of this goes back to the key US decision, which was made on 24 February 1990.
#64
(03-06-2022, 03:44 AM)727Sky Wrote: Maybe a little HISTORY ?
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2...p-ukraine/
Quote:How and Why the US Government Perpetrated the 2014 Coup in Ukraine
[Image: acjHM66QQR5kCh1rvkLeUXWRoIw.png]
Eric Zuesse
[/url][Image: 4tonPx6ZVVE9r7ECg0qIKaFDElw.png]June 3, 2018
© Photo: Public domain
This will document that the ‘new Cold War’ between the US and Russia did not start, as the Western myth has it, with Russia’s involvement in the breakaway of Crimea and Donbass from Ukraine, after Ukraine — next door to Russia — had suddenly turned rabidly hostile toward Russia in February 2014. Ukraine’s replacing its democratically elected [url=http://washingtonsblog.com/2015/03/160-billion-cost-ukraines-viktor-yanukovych-spurned-eus-offer-20-nov-2013.html]neutralist Government in February 2014, by a rabidly anti-Russian Government, was a violent event, which produced many corpses. It’s presented in The West as having been a ‘revolution’ instead of a coup; but whatever it was, it certainly generated the ‘new Cold War’ (the economic sanctions and NATO buildup on Russia’s borders); and, to know whether it was a coup, or instead a revolution, is to know what actually started the ‘new Cold War’, and why. So, this is historically very important.
Incontrovertible proofs will be presented here not only that it was a coup, but that this coup was organized by the US Government — that the US Government initiated the ‘new Cold War’; Russia’s Government reacted to America’s aggression, which aims to place nuclear missiles in Ukraine, less than ten minutes flight-time from Moscow. During the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, America had reason to fear Soviet nuclear missiles 103 miles from America’s border. But, after America’s Ukrainian coup in 2014, Russia has reason to fear NATO nuclear missiles not just near, but on, Russia’s border. That would be catastrophic.
If America’s successful February 2014 overthrow and replacement of Ukraine’s democratically elected neutralist Government doesn’t soon produce a world-ending nuclear war (World War III), then there will be historical accounts of that overthrow, and the accounts are already increasingly trending and consolidating toward a historical consensus that it was a coup — that it was imposed by “somebody from the new coalition” — i.e., that the termination of the then-existing democratic (though like all its predecessors, corrupt) Ukrainian Government, wasn’t authentically a ‘revolution’ such as the US Government has contended, and certainly wasn’t at all democratic, but was instead a coup (and a very bloody one, at that), and totally illegal (though backed by The West). 
The purpose of the present article will be to focus attention on precisely whom the chief people are who were responsible for perpetrating this globally mega-dangerous (‘Cold-War’-igniting) coup — and thus for creating the world’s subsequent course increasingly toward global nuclear annihilation. 
If there will be future history, then these are the individuals who will be in the docks for that history’s harshest and most damning judgments, even if there will be no legal proceedings brought against them. Who, then, are these people?
Clearly, Victoria Nuland, US President Barack Obama’s central agent overseeing the coup, at least during the month of February 2014 when it climaxed, was crucial not only in overthrowing the existing Ukrainian Government, but in selecting and installing its rabidly anti-Russian replacement. The 27 January 2014 phone-conversation between her and America’s Ambassador in Ukraine, Jeffrey Pyatt was a particularly seminal event, and it was uploaded to youtube on 4 February 2014. I have discussed elsewhere that call and its significance. Nuland there and then abandoned the EU’s hope for a still democratic but less corrupt future government for Ukraine, and Nuland famously said, on that call “Fuck the EU,” and she instructed Pyatt to choose instead the rabidly anti-Russian, and far-right, Arseniy Yatsenyuk. This key event occurred 24 days before Ukraine’s President Victor Yanukovych was overthrown on February 20th, and 30 days before the new person to head Ukraine’s Government, Yatsenyuk, became officially appointed to rule the now clearly fascist country. He won that official designation on February 26th. However, this was only a formality: Obama’s agent had already chosen him, on January 27th.
The second landmark item of evidence that it had been a coup and nothing at all democratic or a ‘revolution’, was the 26 February 2014 phone-conversation between the EU’s Foreign Minister Catherine Ashton and her agent in Ukraine investigating whether the overthrow had been a revolution or instead a coup; he was Estonia’s Foreign Minister, Urmas Paet, and he told her that he found that it had been a coup, and that “somebody from the new coalition” had engineered it — but he didn’t know whom that “somebody” was. Both Ashton and Paet were shocked at this finding, but they proceeded immediately to ignore that matter, and to discuss only the prospects for Europe’s investors in Ukraine, to be able to get their money back — their obsession was Ukraine's corruption. Ashton told Paet that she had herself told the Maidan demonstrators, “you need to find ways in which you can establish a process that will have anti-corruption at its heart.” So, though the EU was unhappy that this had been a coup, they were far more concerned to protect their investors. In any case, the EU clearly wasn’t behind Ukraine's coup. Equally clearly, they didn’t much care whether it was a coup or instead what the US Government said, a ‘revolution'.
Then, on 1 March 2013, the implementation of this plan started: the first “tech camp” to train far-right Ukrainians how to organize online the mass-demonstrations against Yanukovych, was held inside the US Embassy in Kiev on that date, which was over nine months before the Maidan demonstrations to overthrow Ukraine’s democratically elected President started, on 20 November 2013.
The American scholar Gordon M. Hahn has specialized in studying the evidence regarding whom the actual snipers were who committed the murders, but he focuses only on domestic Ukrainian snipers and ignores the foreign ones, who had been hired by the US regime indirectly through Georgian, Lithuanian and other anti-Russian CIA assets (such as via Mikheil Saakashvili, the ousted President of Georgia whom the US regime subsequently selected to become the Governor of the Odessa region of Ukraine). Hahn’s 2018 book Ukraine Over the Edge states on pages 204-209: 
"Yet another pro-Maidan sniper, Ivan Bubenchik, emerged to acknowledge that he shot and killed Berkut [the Government’s police who were protecting Government buildings] before any protesters were shot that day [February 20th]. In a print interview, Bubenchik previews his admission in Vladimir Tikhii’s documentary film, Brantsy, that he shot ahd killed two Berkut commanders in the early morning hours of February 20 on the Maidan. … Bubenchik claims that [on February 20] the Yanukovich regime started the fire in the Trade Union House — where his and many other EuroMaidan fighters lived during the revolt — prompting the Maidan’s next reaction. As noted above, however, pro-Maidan neofascists have revealed that the Right Sector started that fire. … Analysis of the snipers’ massacre shows that the Maidan protesters initiated almost all — at least six out of a possible eight — of the pivotal escalatory moments of violence and/or coercion. … The 30 November 2013 nighttime assault on the Maidan demonstrators is the only clear exception from a conclusive pattern of escalating revolutionary violence led by the Maidan’s relatively small but highly motivated and well-organized neofascist element."
Although Hahn’s book barely cites the first and most detailed academic study of the climactic coup period of late February, Ivan Katchanovski’s poorly written “The ‘Snipers’ Massacre’ on the Maidan in Ukraine”, which was issued on 5 September 2015, Hahn’s is consistent with that: both works conclude that the available evidence, as Katchanovski puts it, shows that:
“The massacre was a false flag operation, which was rationally planned and carried out with a goal of the overthrow of the government and seizure of power. It [his investigation] found various evidence of the involvement of an alliance of the far right organizations, specifically the Right Sector and Svoboda, and oligarchic parties, such as Fatherland. Concealed shooters and spotters were located in at least 20 Maidan-controlled buildings or areas.”
Hahn downplays US heading of the coup. But shortly before the coup, the CIA secretly trained in Poland the Right Sector founder/leader Dmitriy Yarosh ("Dmytro Jarosz"), who headed Ukraine’s snipers. So, even the Ukrainian ones were working for the US
On 19 November 2017 was issued Gian Micalessin’s “The hidden truth about Ukraine – Part 1” 

& Part 2

Summarizing them here: Two Georgian snipers say Saakashvili hired them in Tbilisi for a US-backed operation. But they know only about the “Georgian Legion” part. They think it was patterned on Georgia’s Rose Revolution. They each got $1000 for the operation and flew to Kiev on 15 January and were promised $5000 on return. (9:00) “We had to provoke the ‘Berkut’ police so they would attack the people. By February 15th the situation [at the Maidan] was getting worse every day. Then the first shots were fired.” It was February 15 or 16. Mamunashvili [Saakashvili’s man] introduced them to “an American military guy, … Brian Christopher Boyenger” a former “sniper for the 101st Airborne Division” who “after Maidan he went to Donbass” to fight in the “Georgian Legion” but during the coup-climax, the far-right Andriy “Parubiy came very often,” and “Brian always accompanied him” and also instructing there was Vladimir Parasyuk, one of the leaders of the Maidan. The snipers were told not to aim but just to kill people randomly, to create chaos. There were also two Lithuanian snipers in the room. Some went down from the Ukraine Hotel to the second floor of the Conservatory Building, balcony. “They started to take out the guns and distributed them to each group.” “Then I heard shots from the next room” It lasted 15 minutes, then they were all ordered to escape.
On 13 February 2015 was telecast a German documentary, “Maidan Snipers. German TV expose. ARD Monitor. Eng Subs” in which one of the demonstrators said that many of the bullets were fired from buildings controlled by the demonstrators, but that “We were also shot at from the other direction.” However, at least before 21 February 2014, police (Berkut) were seized by demonstrators and at least the possibility exists that some of the Right Sector snipers were taking positions in and especially atop some of the government buildings so as to fire down into the crowd and seem to be firing from Yanukovych’s side. Gordon Hahn hasn’t been able to verify any firing in February 2014 by the Yanukovych government. Moreover: “they were the same snipers, killing people from both sides.”
On 1 February 2016 was posted to youtube a French documentary, “Ukraine — Masks of the Revolution” which shows, from a meeting at Davos, at 48:00, Victoria Nuland, the announcer trying to speak with her and saying to the audience, “The US diplomat who came to support the Revolution, could she really ignore the existence of the paramilitaries?”; 48:50 Larry Summers at a meeting in Kiev during 10-12 September 2015 and then later at the “12th YES Annual Meeting” saying, “Ukraine is an essential outpost of our fundamental military interests”; 49:25: Petraeus also shown there and the announcer says, “He also thinks that Ukraine is essential to block Putin.” Petraeus urges investment in Ukraine to block Russia; 51:00 McChrystal there also urges arming Ukraine; 51:50 Nuland is there and the announcer says: “The country that is most invested in Ukraine’s future is the US” “She is the architect of America’s influence in Ukraine.” Nuland says there at the “YES” meeting, “We had a significant impact on the battlefield.” But the US regime blames Russia for that war.
Gordon Hahn’s restriction of blame for the coup only to native Ukrainian nazis doesn’t fit the evidence, because there clearly is leadership of Ukraine’s nazis by the US regime. Furthermore, the US regime and its Ukrainian client-state are the only two nations at the U.N. who vote and repeatedly to back fascism, nazism and Holocaust-denial. The anti-Russia nazis took over America’s Government, which has taken over Ukraine’s. All of this goes back to the key US decision, which was made on 24 February 1990.


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They dont mention that Victor Yanukovych  worked to get Ukraine bonded with Russia, when most people wanted to integrated with Europe . It was about the future of country, and west and East both tryed to get Ukraine .
#65
Why the Russian invasion sucks.. Soldiers win battles but Logistics win wars
#66
Thus we see the uptick in air strikes and artillery bombardments of cities.

Russian army is having supply issues and the ground is getting muddier by the day = positional warfare.

Not true in south because the ground is dry.  Not sure about the logistics support there.

Interesting interview with Russian policemen here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comment...s_if_this/

Cheers
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Location: The lost world, Elsewhen
#67
(03-06-2022, 09:08 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Thus we see the uptick in air strikes and artillery bombardments of cities.

Russian army is having supply issues and the ground is getting muddier by the day = positional warfare.

Not true in south because the ground is dry.  Not sure about the logistics support there.

Interesting interview with Russian policemen here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comment...s_if_this/

Cheers

Wow that interview is good . This is shamefull for Russian military .
#68
It's nice to see someone gets it.
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Quote:'Sorry to be a free speech absolutist': Elon Musk says Starlink internet satellites will NOT block Russian
state media in Ukraine and says 'all news sources are partially propaganda'

*Elon Musk, 50, called himself a 'free speech absolutist' after he said he would not block
Russian state media from Starlink internet satellites 
*When he was challenged by a commenter who called Russian media 'propaganda,' he
countered:  'All news sources are partially propaganda'
*He sent a collection of Starlink antennas to Ukraine after the prime minister voiced
concern that the country could lose internet access 
*He also admitted that Starlink could be a target as it was the only 'non-Russian' system
working in some parts of Ukraine  
*Russia has threatened its own independent journalists with jail time if they report 'fake'
news about the war

'Elon Musk called himself a 'free speech absolutist' in defending why he would not block Russian state media
from Starlink internet satellites in Ukraine, claiming 'all news sources are partially propaganda.' 

Musk, 50, sent a collection of antennas to Ukraine this week after their president voiced concern that Ukrainians
could lose internet access if Russia continues to attack communications towers, as it did with the bombing of a
Kyiv TV tower on Wednesday. 

However, the tech mogul said he would not block Russia state media - like Russia Today, which laid off all its US
staff on Friday - because he's not 'sorry to be a free speech absolutist.' 'Starlink has been told by some governments
(not Ukraine) to block Russian news sources. We will not do so unless at gunpoint,' he tweeted on Saturday.

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Elon Musk & the Ukraine situation.

When a commenter questioned Musk's position and referred to Russian media as 'propaganda resources,' the
Tesla founder was undeterred, replying: 'All news sources are partially propaganda, some more than others.'

Musk issued an 'important warning' on Thursday, stating that in 'some parts of Ukraine' Starlink satellites were only
'non-Russian communications system still working' and could be targeted for attacks. 
'Please use with caution,' he tweeted. 

He also stated that SpaceX would 'reprioritize' signal jamming and up cyber defense and told Ukrainians to 'hold strong'
and have his 'sympathies to the great people of Russia, who do not want this.' Despite Putin's attempts to disconnect
Ukrainians from the internet, Russia has threatened its own independent journalists with jail time if they report 'fake' news
about the war. 

In the US, stated-back media outlet Russia Today laid off all of its staff, effectively shutting down amid backlash over the
war in Ukraine. 'Unfortunately, we anticipate this layoff will be permanent, meaning that this will result in the permanent
separation from employment of most T&R employees at all locations,' General Manager Misha Solodovnikov wrote.
'We deeply regret and understand the uncertainty this action will cause our valued employees.'

RT America has been sidelined in the US and most of Europe since Russia's invasion of Ukraine on February 24.
The network, seen as one of Putin's main mouthpieces in the US, had referred to the unprovoked invasion as a 'minor
incursion intended for defensive purposes.'

Their stance quickly drew backlash and some of RT's own staff publicly resigned, and multiple television providers, streaming
tech service Roku and social media outlets severed ties with the network. Satellite TV company DirecTV recently announced
it would be pulling the plug on the channel on March 1, ahead of a contract that was going to expire later this year.

'In line with our previous agreement with RT America, we are accelerating this year's contract expiration timeline and will no longer
offer their programming effective immediately,' a spokesperson said. Dish, which also carries the network, did not comment on its
relationship with the Kremlin-backed channel. Formerly known as Russia Today, RT has sister stations across the globe, including
United Kingdom and France, which have also been recently booted off-air.

YouTube, TikTok, Twitter and Facebook parent company Meta have also banned RT content on their platforms in Europe, with Meta
executive Nick Clegg hinting that a decision was made in relation to 'the exceptional nature of the current situation' in Ukraine. 
RT's app will no longer be available on Microsoft and Apple app stores in all countries except for Russia...'
Daily Mail:


Infotainment, it's what we eat instead of sugar.
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#69
(03-06-2022, 10:20 AM)BIAD Wrote: It's nice to see someone gets it.
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Quote:'Sorry to be a free speech absolutist': Elon Musk says Starlink internet satellites will NOT block Russian
state media in Ukraine and says 'all news sources are partially propaganda'

*Elon Musk, 50, called himself a 'free speech absolutist' after he said he would not block
Russian state media from Starlink internet satellites 
*When he was challenged by a commenter who called Russian media 'propaganda,' he
countered:  'All news sources are partially propaganda'

...

'Starlink has been told by some governments
(not Ukraine) to block Russian news sources. We will not do so unless at gunpoint,' he tweeted on Saturday.

...
Daily Mail:


Infotainment, it's what we eat instead of sugar.
tinysure   Misinformation:

That motherfucker is a goddamned genius! No wonder he managed to get as rich as 3  feet up a bull's ass!

It's a damned good thing I'll never meet him. I'd have to bow in obeisance, and my old-assed back would likely not be able to take it.

Gimme a call, Elon, if you need help. I won't back down from those censorial governments - it wouldn't be the first time I've had a gun pointed at me... and it is important that everyone has their say. If they are dumbasses, there is nothing wrong with giving them the media rope to hang themselves with, now is there? So I don't back down from serious issues even at gunpoint. The sons of bitches might kill me, but I doubt the bastards would eat me, so it's all good in the end.


If you've any doubts about how I handle censors, or whether I have to gonads to call them out, check out my Facebook page. Be prepared to do a lot of scrolling.

That is something the censorial Left has not yet figured out. If they can't counter a statement with logic, then they just piss all over themselves and try to bury it in censorship.

Should Mr. Musk run for president, I might be forced to vote for him, despite his views on AI... but should he have a mind to debate or discuss that AI point, I have nowhere I need to be, and all day to get there. so I'm available for discussion.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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#71
Russian warship hit off the coast of Odessa yesterday.

Apparently, some happy heroes torched something like 30 Russian helos parked at an airfield.

And Russia has brought an armored train to the war.  Talk about a 1940s vibe.

Cheers
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(03-08-2022, 10:13 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Russian warship hit off the coast of Odessa yesterday.

Apparently, some happy heroes torched something like 30 Russian helos parked at an airfield.

And Russia has brought an armored train to the war.  Talk about a 1940s vibe.

Cheers


What does the armored train do exactly ? 


They seem to have web site allready , asking people to enlist for The International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine


Enlist now
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Armored trains are loaded with artillery and machine guns.  In the 1940s, they were used to patrol rail lines and provide security for rail maintenance crews.

Germany had specialized versions that were mobile anti-aircraft platforms.

These days ... dunno, it sounds like a big target for antitank guided missiles.  Makes me wonder if Russian rail traffic in Ukraine is getting unwelcome attention from the locals.

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(03-08-2022, 07:12 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Armored trains are loaded with artillery and machine guns.  In the 1940s, they were used to patrol rail lines and provide security for rail maintenance crews.

Germany had specialized versions that were mobile anti-aircraft platforms.

These days ... dunno, it sounds like a big target for antitank guided missiles.  Makes me wonder if Russian rail traffic in Ukraine is getting unwelcome attention from the locals.

Cheers


Ok . I find this about it

Russian Armored Train: Russia has now launched a train equipped with weapons in the war of Ukraine, wreaking havoc from ground to air

It seems Russian army has only about 4000 special trucks ,and not enough maintenance for them,


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It's propaganda of course, because it is one sided, but it shows some spectacular victories...





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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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The mistake from Putin ?



Quote:“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
- Sun Tzu
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(03-09-2022, 02:21 PM)Kenzo Wrote: The mistake from Putin ?



Quote:“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
- Sun Tzu

That's odd. I was thinking just last might that it appears Putin has never read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War", nor does he appear to have read Miyamoto Musashi's "A Book of Five Rings". No one should ever go to war without an understanding of those two small books.





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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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(03-09-2022, 06:27 PM)Ninurta Wrote:
(03-09-2022, 02:21 PM)Kenzo Wrote: The mistake from Putin ?



Quote:“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
- Sun Tzu

That's odd. I was thinking just last might that it appears Putin has never read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War", nor does he appear to have read Miyamoto Musashi's "A Book of Five Rings". No one should ever go to war without an understanding of those two small books.





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First time i hear name Miyamoto Musashi


Ironically it seems like Putin itself helped Ukrainians to unite , after what happens about 8 years ago and now people fight better as united against Russia .
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(03-09-2022, 07:59 PM)Kenzo Wrote: First time i hear name Miyamoto Musashi


Ironically it seems like Putin itself helped Ukrainians to unite , after what happens about 8 years ago and now people fight better as united against Russia .

Musashi was perhaps the greatest samurai swordsman who ever lived. Killed his first opponent at the age of 13 with a training bokken. He went on to become a samurai, and then later a ronin, traveling around the country fighting duels. After a few years of that, when it was apparent that he just wasn't losing, ever, it lost the thrill so he retired. Spent his last years living alone in a cave, and used that time to distill his knowledge into a small book called "A Book of Five Rings". The book is a classic, and if properly applied will yield victory in any situation. Musashi himself said in that book "from one thing, know 10,000 things", meaning that if the broad principles he set down were properly interpreted, understood, and applied to any given situation, they would yield favorable results whether in war, business, or international or even  interpersonal relationships.

Putin not only pulled Ukraine together, but he also seems to have reinvigorated NATO, the one thing he DIDN'T want to do! NATO was pretty much on it's death bed, but in comes Putin and it roars back to life with a vengeance. I just can't figure out why he didn't see that coming... so I'm pretty confident he's never read nor pondered either of those two books.

If you threaten a man, or a nation, beyond his limits, he will almost always react in ways inimical to the threat. So if Putin loves his children, he needs to stop threatening ours with things like nuclear annihilation. That will, in the end, no go so well for Russian children, either. We may have different ideologies, but we all have the same biology, and a Russian kid will glow just as brightly as an American kid after a sufficient amount of nuclear irradiation. It would behoove Putin to keep that fact in mind while tossing threats of annihilation  around.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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(03-06-2022, 11:09 AM)Ninurta Wrote:
(03-06-2022, 10:20 AM)BIAD Wrote: It's nice to see someone gets it.
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Quote:'Sorry to be a free speech absolutist': Elon Musk says Starlink internet satellites will NOT block Russian
state media in Ukraine and says 'all news sources are partially propaganda'

*Elon Musk, 50, called himself a 'free speech absolutist' after he said he would not block
Russian state media from Starlink internet satellites 
*When he was challenged by a commenter who called Russian media 'propaganda,' he
countered:  'All news sources are partially propaganda'

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'Starlink has been told by some governments
(not Ukraine) to block Russian news sources. We will not do so unless at gunpoint,' he tweeted on Saturday.

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Daily Mail:


Infotainment, it's what we eat instead of sugar.
tinysure   Misinformation:

That motherfucker is a goddamned genius! No wonder he managed to get as rich as 3  feet up a bull's ass!

It's a damned good thing I'll never meet him. I'd have to bow in obeisance, and my old-assed back would likely not be able to take it.

Gimme a call, Elon, if you need help. I won't back down from those censorial governments - it wouldn't be the first time I've had a gun pointed at me... and it is important that everyone has their say. If they are dumbasses, there is nothing wrong with giving them the media rope to hang themselves with, now is there? So I don't back down from serious issues even at gunpoint. The sons of bitches might kill me, but I doubt the bastards would eat me, so it's all good in the end.


If you've any doubts about how I handle censors, or whether I have to gonads to call them out, check out my Facebook page. Be prepared to do a lot of scrolling.

That is something the censorial Left has not yet figured out. If they can't counter a statement with logic, then they just piss all over themselves and try to bury it in censorship.

Should Mr. Musk run for president, I might be forced to vote for him, despite his views on AI... but should he have a mind to debate or discuss that AI point, I have nowhere I need to be, and all day to get there. so I'm available for discussion.

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Wouldn't it be nice to have a presidential candidate we actually respect?  Speaks to the state of things when our choices are Killarys, Bushes, Trumps, demented-old-bat Biden, and the cackling mumbler Camel
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