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The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it
Many people are already familiar with the U.N. Weather Weapons Treaty and how it came about in the 70's.
 But there are those that are not, much less believe that our governments (yes, plural) can and have been modifying (manipulating) the weather for quite some time now.
 The reality is, weather modification is no conspiracy theory.
 Since before the 50′s, techniques have been used to modify the weather.

  First of all, what is weather modification?

Quote:Weather modding is the act of intentionally manipulating or altering the weather. The most common form of weather modification is cloud seeding to increase rain or snow, usually for the purpose of increasing the local water supply.[1] Weather modification can also have the goal of preventing damaging weather, such as hail or hurricanes, from occurring; or of provoking damaging weather against the enemy, as a tactic of military or economic warfare.

Weather modification in warfare has been banned by the United Nations.


  The fact that using weather as a form of weapon upon another Nation was so imminent,  the UN felt it necessary to draft a treaty  ensuring that no Nation would use weather warfare as a means of attacking another country.
 Therefore, the thought of governments modifying the weather in NOT a conspiracy. As bizzarre and syfy as it sounds, it IS real.

What is weather warfare?

Quote:Weather warfare is the use of weather modification techniques such as cloud seeding for military purposes.

Prior to the Geneva Convention, the United States used weather warfare in the Vietnam War. Under the auspices of the Air Weather Service, the United States' Operation Popeye used cloud seeding over the Ho Chi Minh trail, increasing rainfall by an estimated thirty percent during 1967 and 1968. It was hoped that the increased rainfall would reduce the rate of infiltration down the trail.[1]

With much less success, the United States also dropped salt on the airbase during the siege of Khe Sanh in an attempt to reduce the fog that hindered air operations.[citation needed]

Here is a part of the UN treaty regarding using weather warfare:

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To read more: UN.Org

Environmental Modification Convention:

Quote:The Environmental Modification Convention (ENMOD), formally the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any
Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques is an international treaty prohibiting the military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects. It opened for signature on 18 May 1977 in Geneva and entered into force on 5 October 1978.

The Convention bans weather warfare, which is the use of weather modification techniques for the purposes of inducing damage or destruction. The Convention on Biological Diversity of 2010 would also ban some forms of weather modification or geoengineering.[2]

Many states do not regard this as a complete ban on the use of herbicides in warfare, such as Agent Orange, but it does require case-by-case consideration.[3]


Quote:The problem of artificial modification of the environment for military or other hostile purposes was brought to the international agenda in the early 1970s. Following the US decision of July 1972 to renounce the use of climate modification techniques for hostile purposes, the 1973 resolution by the US Senate calling for an international agreement "prohibiting the use of any environmental or geophysical modification activity as a weapon of war", and an in-depth review by the Department of Defense of the military aspects of weather and other environmental modification techniques, US decided to seek agreement with the Soviet Union to explore the possibilities of an international agreement.

In July 1974, US and USSR agreed to hold bilateral discussions on measures to overcome the danger of the use of environmental modification techniques for military purposes and three subsequent rounds of discussions in 1974 and 1975. In August 1975, US and USSR tabled identical draft texts of a convention at the Conference of the Committee on Disarmament (CCD), Conference on Disarmament, where intensive negotiations resulted in a modified text and understandings regarding four articles of this Convention in 1976.

The Convention was approved by Resolution 31/72 of the General Assembly of the United Nations on 10 December 1976, by 96 to 8 votes with 30 abstentions.

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You can read more at the U.N. link here


Unfortunately tho, the UN treaty left the door wide open for weather modification in the name of science for peaceful purposes, as is stated in Article III from above:

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So now, we have dozens of countries that have been playing around with the weather for decades and we wonder why it acts odd sometimes???

We know what has been used in the past to attempt to control the weather due to records.
But with today's advanced high tech, wonder what toys they have created and are experimenting with now?

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Cloud seeding has been mentioned over and over.
  But what exactly is cloud seeding and how does it work?
   Cloud seeding:

Quote:Cloud seeding, a form of weather modification, is the attempt to change the amount or type of precipitation that falls from clouds, by dispersing substances into the air that serve as cloud condensation or ice nuclei, which alter the microphysical processes within the cloud. The usual intent is to increase precipitation (rain or snow), but hail and fog suppression are also widely practiced in airports.

Cloud seeding also occurs due to ice nucleators in nature, most of which are bacterial in origin.[2]


Cloud seeding experimentation has been going on for decades, going back to 30's-40's.
The U.S. Military used it during the Vietnam war, it was called Operation Popeye

Operation Popeye:

Quote:Operation Popeye (Project Controlled Weather Popeye/Motorpool/Intermediary-Compatriot) was a highly classified weather modification program in Southeast Asia during 1967–1972. The cloud seeding operation during the Vietnam War ran from March 20, 1967 until July 5, 1972 in an attempt to extend the monsoon season, specifically over areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail. The operation was used to induce rain and extend the East Asian Monsoon season in support of U.S. government efforts related to the War in Southeast Asia.

The operation seeded clouds with both silver iodide and lead iodide, resulting in the targeted areas seeing an extension of the monsoon period by an average of 30 to 45 days. As the continuous rainfall slowed down the truck traffic, it was considered relatively successful.[1] However, resultant rain and subsequent flooding of the nearby Song Con River is sometimes blamed for the move of POWs from the prison camp at Son Tay and, therefore, the failure of Operation Ivory Coast.[2]

The former U.S. Secretary of Defense, Robert S. McNamara, was aware that there might be objections raised by the international scientific community but said in a memo to the president that such objections had not in the past been a basis for prevention of military activities considered to be in the interests of U.S. national security.

The chemical weather modification program was conducted from Thailand over Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam and allegedly sponsored by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and CIA without the authorization of then Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird who had categorically denied to Congress that a program for modification of the weather for use as a tactical weapon even existed.[3]


How does cloud seeding work?

Quote:The most common chemicals used for cloud seeding include silver iodide, potassium iodide and dry ice (solid carbon dioxide). Liquid propane, which expands into a gas, has also been used. This can produce ice crystals at higher temperatures than silver iodide. After promising research, the use of hygroscopic materials, such as table salt, is becoming more popular.[3] Cloud seeding to increase snowfall takes place when temperatures within the clouds are between 19 and −4 °F (−7 and −20 °C).[4] Introduction of a substance such as silver iodide, which has a crystalline structure similar to that of ice, will induce freezing nucleation.

In mid-latitude clouds, the usual seeding strategy has been based on the fact that the equilibrium vapor pressure is lower over ice than over water. The formation of ice particles in super cooled clouds allows those particles to grow at the expense of liquid droplets. If sufficient growth takes place, the particles become heavy enough to fall as precipitation from clouds that otherwise would produce no precipitation. This process is known as "static" seeding.

Seeding of warm-season or tropical cumulonimbus (convective) clouds seeks to exploit the latent heat released by freezing. This strategy of "dynamic" seeding assumes that the additional latent heat adds buoyancy, strengthens updrafts, ensures more low-level convergence, and ultimately causes rapid growth of properly selected clouds.

Cloud seeding chemicals may be dispersed by aircraft or by dispersion devices located on the ground (generators or canisters fired from anti-aircraft guns or rockets). For release by aircraft, silver iodide flares are ignited and dispersed as an aircraft flies through the inflow of a cloud. When released by devices on the ground, the fine particles are carried downwind and upward by air currents after release.
An electronic mechanism was tested in 2010, when infrared laser pulses were directed to the air above Berlin by researchers from the University of Geneva.[5] The experimenters posited that the pulses would encourage atmospheric sulfur dioxide and nitrogen dioxide to form particles that would then act as seeds.[5]

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Quote:Cloud seeding is no longer considered a fringe science, and is considered a mainstream tool to improve rain precipitation and snow. New technology and research has produced reliable results that make cloud seeding a dependable and affordable water-supply practice for many regions.[6] While practiced widely around the world, the effectiveness of cloud seeding is still a matter of academic debate. In 2004 the United States National Research Council released a report stating that to date, there is still no convincing scientific proof of the efficacy of intentional weather modification as it only has 30 percent or less chance of success.[7]

Cloud seeding has been shown to be effective in altering cloud structure and size and in converting supercooled liquid water to ice particles. The amount of precipitation due to seeding is difficult to quantify.

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JFK Forecasts Weather Control at 1961 UN General Assembly

Chemtrails: The Exotic Weapon

Quote:Electromagnetic schemes were already under way to control the weather by altering the Earth’s atmosphere . Weaponizing the weather would provide the element of plausible deniability when the enemy (or victim) could not tell if floods, drought,  typhoons, tornadoes or hurricanes were natural or “man-made.”

All the discussion and work invested in warming the arctic came to an abrupt end when an oceanographer Roger Revelle and mentor to Al Gore, announced that the arctic was in danger of warming.

The mystery of how the goal of deliberate climate warming was suddenly turned into a catastrophic fear of climate warming is poorly explained in the historical record.

What is the Chemtrail Conspiracy theory?

Quote:Chemtrail conspiracy theory is an unproven suspicion that long-lasting trails, so-called "chemtrails", are left in the sky by high-flying aircraft, and that they consist of chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed for sinister purposes undisclosed to the general public.[1]

Believers in the theory argue that normal contrails dissipate relatively quickly, and contrails that do not dissipate must contain additional substances.[2][3] These arguments have been dismissed by the scientific community: such trails are normal water-based contrails (condensation trails) that are routinely left by high-flying aircraft under certain atmospheric conditions.[4] Although proponents have attempted to prove that the claimed chemical spraying does take place, their analyses have been flawed or based on misconceptions.[5][6]


People who believe that chemicals are being sprayed in the air, are usually labeled conspiracy theorists.
Yet we can see thru history how governments have been able to modify weather thru various means, so assuming chemtrails are real, more than likely aren't too far off the mark.

Deny, deny, deny....that is our government's motto.

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Ah yes, and what about HAARP?

There are so many controversial claims surrounding HAARP, that anyone who says it can manipulate the environment are once again, called conspiracy theorists.

However, many indications point to that yes, HAARP can be used to control part of the environment.  

But first, what is HAARP?


Quote:The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) was an ionospheric research program jointly funded by the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy, the University of Alaska[clarification needed], and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA),[1] designed and built by BAE Advanced Technologies (BAEAT).

Its purpose was to analyze the ionosphere and investigate the potential for developing ionospheric enhancement technology for radio communications and surveillance.[2] The HAARP program operated a major sub-arctic facility, named the HAARP Research Station, on an Air Force-owned site near Gakona, Alaska.

The most prominent instrument at the HAARP Station is the Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI), a high-power radio frequency transmitter facility operating in the high frequency (HF) band. The IRI is used to temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere. Other instruments, such as a VHF and a UHF radar, a fluxgate magnetometer, a digisonde (an ionospheric sounding device), and an induction magnetometer, were used to study the physical processes that occur in the excited region.



Quote:HAARP's main goal is basic science research of the uppermost portion of the atmosphere, termed the ionosphere. Essentially a transition between the atmosphere and the magnetosphere, the ionosphere is where the atmosphere is thin enough that the sun's X-rays and UV rays can reach it, but thick enough that there are still enough molecules present to absorb those rays. Consequently, the ionosphere consists of a rapid increase in density of free electrons, beginning at ~70 km, reaching a peak at ~300 km, and then falling off again as the atmosphere disappears entirely by ~1,000 km.
Various aspects of HAARP can study all of the main layers of the ionosphere.
The profile of the ionosphere is highly variable, changing constantly on timescales of minutes, hours, days, seasons, and years. This profile becomes even more complex near Earth's magnetic poles, where the nearly vertical alignment and intensity of earth's magnetic field can cause physical effects like aurorae.

The ionosphere is traditionally very difficult to measure. Balloons cannot reach it because the air is too thin, but satellites cannot orbit there because the air is still too thick. Hence, most experiments on the ionosphere give only small pieces of information.

HAARP approaches the study of the ionosphere by following in the footsteps of an ionospheric heater called EISCAT near Tromsø, Norway. There, scientists pioneered exploration of the ionosphere by perturbing it with radio waves in the 2–10 MHz range, and studying how the ionosphere reacts. HAARP performs the same functions but with more power and a more flexible and agile HF beam.

Where the conspiracy theories come in to play is, there are many people who claim that HAARP is to blame for triggering catastrophes such as floods, droughts, hurricanes, thunderstorms, earthquakes in Iran, Pakistan, Haiti, Turkey, Greece and the Philippines, major power outages, the downing of TWA Flight 800, Gulf War syndrome, and chronic fatigue syndrome.

Of course, the U.S. could never admit if HAARP was capable of triggering EQ in other countries, for that would be in violation of the U.N. treaty that was set forth in the 70's, stating that countries could not use weather as a weapon.
Therefore, no way would the Military state otherwise.


HAARP: Secret Weapon Used For Weather Modification, Electromagnetic Warfare

Quote:HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) is a little-known, yet critically important U.S. military defense program which has generated quite a bit of controversy over the years in certain circles. Though denied by HAARP officials, some respected researchers allege that secret electromagnetic warfare capabilities of HAARP are designed to forward the US military’s stated goal of achieving full-spectrum dominance by the year 2020. Others go so far as to claim that HAARP can and has been used for weather modification, to cause earthquakes and tsunamis, to disrupt global communications systems, and more.

Major aspects of the program are kept secret for alleged reasons of “national security.” Yet there is no doubt that HAARP and electromagnetic weapons capable of being used in warfare do exist. According to the official HAARP website, “HAARP is a scientific endeavor aimed at studying the properties and behavior of the ionosphere, with particular emphasis on being able to understand and use it to enhance communications and surveillance systems for both civilian and defense purposes.” The ionosphere is the delicate upper layer of our atmosphere which ranges from about 30 miles (50 km) to 600 miles (1,000 km) above the surface of the Earth.

The HAARP website acknowledges that experiments are conducted which use electromagnetic frequencies to fire pulsed, directed energy beams in order to “temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere.”

Some scientists state that purposefully disturbing this sensitive layer could have major and even disastrous consequences.

Concerned HAARP researchers like Dr. Michel Chossudovsky of the University of Ottawa and Alaska’s Dr. Nick Begich (son of a US Congressman) present evidence suggesting that these disturbances can even cause tsunamis and earthquakes.

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To watch this engaging 15-minute CBC documentary online, click here. For an even more detailed and revealing 45-minute History Channel documentary on HAARP and other secret weapons used for electromagnetic warfare, click here.
Below are two quotes from the History Channel documentary:

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For those who still doubt that such devastating secret weapons have been developed, here is an intriguing quote from an article in New Zealand’s leading newspaper, the New Zealand Herald:

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If the military secretly developed a weapon which could cause a tsunami over half a century ago, what kind of advanced deadly weapons might be available now?

And why is it that the general public still doesn’t know about secret weapons developed over 50 years ago? To understand why the media isn’t covering these highly critical issues, click here. Clearly the military has the capability to cause a tsunami and likely to cause earthquakes and hurricanes, as well. It’s time for us to take action to spread the word on this vital topic.

--->>> (VIDEO) CBC of Canada's revealing video documentary on HAARP/ Part 1

Air Force Bombshell: Admits They Can Control Weather – HAARP

Quote:While HAARP and weather control has been called a conspiracy theory by the mainstream media and government officials, during a Senate hearing on Wednesday, David Walker, deputy assistant secretary of the Air Force for science, technology and engineering, dropped a bombshell in answer to a question asked by Lisa Murkowski in relation to the dismantling of the $300 million High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program in Gakona this summer.

Walker said this is “not an area that we have any need for in the future” and it would not be a good use of Air Force research funds to keep HAARP going. “We’re moving on to other ways of managing the ionosphere, which the HAARP was really designed to do,” he said. “To inject energy into the ionosphere to be able to actually control it. But that work has been completed.
Many believe HAARP was created and has been used for weather control, with enough juice to trigger hurricanes, tornadoes and earthquakes and comments such as this bring about the question of whether conspiracy theorists are more on target than anyone has admitted to date.

This is not the first time a public official has acknowledged that HAARP and weather control is not only possible, but has been and continues to be, used as a “super weapon,” as evidenced by a statement in 1997 by former U.S. Defense Secretary William Cohen, where he said..... “Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves… So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations…It’s real, and that’s the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts.”

Is it still just a conspiracy theory if public officials admit it is true?

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About Project Seal:

The United States and New Zealand conducted secret tests of a "tsunami bomb" designed to destroy coastal cities by using underwater blasts to trigger massive tidal waves

Quote:The tests were carried out in waters around New Caledonia and Auckland during the Second World War and showed that the weapon was feasible and a series of 10 large offshore blasts could potentially create a 33-foot tsunami capable of inundating a small city.

The top secret operation, code-named "Project Seal", tested the doomsday device as a possible rival to the nuclear bomb. About 3,700 bombs were exploded during the tests, first in New Caledonia and later at Whangaparaoa Peninsula, near Auckland.

The plans came to light during research by a New Zealand author and film-maker, Ray Waru, who examined military files buried in the national archives.

"Presumably if the atomic bomb had not worked as well as it did, we might have been tsunami-ing people," said Mr Waru.

"It was absolutely astonishing. First that anyone would come up with the idea of developing a weapon of mass destruction based on a tsunami ... and also that New Zealand seems to have successfully developed it to the degree that it might have worked."

The project was launched in June 1944 after a US naval officer, E A Gibson, noticed that blasting operations to clear coral reefs around Pacific islands sometimes produced a large wave, raising the possibility of creating a "tsunami bomb".

'Tsunami Bomb' Created by US Military

Quote:The military has a long and honorable history, but part of that history includes some weapons' experiments that in hindsight seem downright wacky, and some even evil.

Everything from a "gay bomb" that tried to incapacitate soldiers through uncontrollable homosexual urges to extrasensory perception (ESP) experiments that attempted to give soldiers psychic vision have been the subject of serious — and failed — military investigations.

And during World War II, the U.S. military devised a way to create a "tsunami bomb," reports the British newspaper the Daily Telegraph.
The tsunami bomb, developed in cooperation with authorities in New Zealand, was designed to inundate an enemy city under a 33-foot (10-meter) tsunami wave. Code-named "Project Seal," the top-secret military operation was created in 1944 after E. A. Gibson, a U.S. naval officer, noticed how using explosives to destroy coral reefs around Pacific islands would often generate large waves, reports the Daily Telegraph.

A series of tests were conducted around New Zealand during the war to evaluate the feasibility of the tsunami bomb — and when done correctly, it worked, according to Ray Waru, a New Zealand author whose book, "Secrets and Treasures" (Random House, 2012), outlines some of the military's lesser-known follies, including extensive UFO investigations.

Apparently, the correct way to create a large tsunami wave is through not one, but several bombs using some 2,200 tons (2 million kilograms) of explosives arrayed in a line about 5 miles (8 kilometers) offshore, according to the Daily Telegraph.

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Please continue,,,,  minusculeclap  smallawesome
Have you looked at this link?
Once A Rogue, Always A Rogue!
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(08-15-2016, 05:38 AM)guohua Wrote: Please continue,,,,  minusculeclap  smallawesome
Have you looked at this link?

Thank you my friend!   minusculethumbsup

Yes, HAARP and the conspiracies surrounding it is what goes in the blank space above.
Just had to take a break and now need to get my info together for that.
Plus have some other stuff that I will be adding as well.

Please feel free to add more information with links for people to view.
Mainly trying to compile all the data we can get on weather control from the past to the present and what harm all this tampering around the globe with the environment might eventually do.

I was astounded to see first of all, how many people do not know about weather modifying that has been going on for years and claim one is making it up when it is mentioned. Nor do they believe our government would do such a thing. minusculerolleyes
And second, they do not know about how serious it got in the late 60's to early 70's about using weather as a weapon to the point the UN felt the need to step in.

As I said, to be continued minusculebiggrin

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“Popular Science” Warns About “Weather As A Weapon”

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Quote:The cloud of disinformation and deception surrounding the ongoing climate engineering insanity is massive beyond true comprehension. The entirety of the climate science and meteorological communities have participated in this deception, whether willingly (for a paycheck and a pension), or due to threats like the recent "gag order" placed on all National Weather Service and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration employees by our government. Corporate media has, of course, done all they could to perpetuate the lies and deception, this is what they are paid to do. 

Global climate engineering is nothing short of weather warfare and biological warfare that has been going on in plain sight for decades. The mounting consequences are becoming all but impossible to keep from public awareness. Countless organizations are discussing geoengineering but not yet openly admitting it has long since been a lethal reality with disastrous and deadly results. The 7 minute video below summarizes the ramifications of the Popular Science Magazine disclosures.

This is a narration from a June 1958 article in the issue of "Popular Science", that talks about weather being used as a weapon.

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"Control of earth weather AND temperature is within the realm of practicality now" ...and that statement was made a little over 50 years ago.

So one can only imagine how far our military has come in messing with the weather in 2016.
Including rising temperatures. 

Global warming anyone??? smalltappingfoot

Nothing like blaming the populous and industries for the governments little experiments over the years, messing with mother nature.

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(08-15-2016, 08:43 AM)senona Wrote: “Popular Science” Warns About “Weather As A Weapon...”

But wait! "Popular Mechanics" says:

'What you may not know is that a group of conspiracy theorists are dead set
on proving that contrails are not just innocent ice crystals, but a government
conspiracy to spray the populous with chemicals, what they call "chemtrails".

Celebrities as diverse as Kylie Jenner and Billy Corgan have used Twitter
to align themselves with the theory...'

"...We wanted to establish a scientific record on the topic of secret atmospheric
spraying programs for the benefit of those in the public who haven't made up
their minds," Steven Davis, an Earth Systems scientist at UC Irvine said.

"The experts we surveyed resoundingly rejected contrail photographs and
test results as evidence of a large-scale atmospheric conspiracy..."

Okay, fair's-fair. So this is a con-trail...?

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"Despite the persistence of erroneous theories about atmospheric chemical
spraying programs, until now there were no peer-reviewed academic studies
showing that what some people think are 'chemtrails' are just ordinary contrails,
which are becoming more abundant as air travel expands.

Also, it is possible that climate change is causing contrails to persist for longer
periods than they used to." Caldeira said. "I felt it was important to definitively
show what real experts in contrails and aerosols think.

We might not convince die-hard believers that their beloved secret spraying program
is just a paranoid fantasy, but hopefully their friends will accept the facts."

Surely with all these academics 'setting the record straight' we can now see that a nation's
Government isn't lying... I mean, if they were doing something that they knew would outrage
the populace, wouldn't they just tell us?

'Towing The Company Line' is a quote that comes to mind!

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"They watch from behind complacent smiles whilst polishing their cutlery. Yet, with egg between the prongs"
Here is the thread that Melina did a while back when she stumbled upon this back in May...

Government Quietly Admits to Weather Modification Program

An article in the newspaper announcing their intentions on weather modification for a period of time

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WOW! What an awesome thread! smallawesome

I don't have time to look at everything right now, but it is bookmarked for future reading.

Thanks, @senona  minusculeclap
Solar Radiation Management, Geoengineering and Chemtrails

What is SRM?

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Quote:What would SMR involve?

Different SRM techniques have been proposed, but the proposals receiving the most attention from researchers would involve brightening marine clouds by spraying seawater into the lower atmosphere, or replicating the cooling effect of volcanoes by spraying reflective sulfate particles into the upper atmosphere (the stratosphere).

Stratospheric aerosol injection
When very large volcanoes erupt they blast millions of tonnes of reflective sulphate particles into the stratosphere. These particles circulate the planet on the powerful stratospheric winds, reflecting away a small amount of inbound sunlight and cooling the planet slightly for a year or two. Stratospheric aerosol ejection would seek to replicate this effect, with aeroplanes or balloons used to inject reflective aerosol particles into the upper atmosphere.

Marine cloud brightening
Large areas of ocean are covered in marine stratus clouds. Scientists have proposed that spraying tiny droplets of seawater into these clouds could make them lighter and more reflective. Whiter, brighter clouds reflect more sunlight back out into space, and would help cool the planet.

What about side-effects?

It is not yet known what all the side effects of SRM could be, or whether they would be very damaging. Some possible side effects are known, however. For instance, stratospheric aerosols might delay the regeneration of the ozone layer. There might also be some health effects from the additional aerosols in the atmosphere, although these are not currently expected to be large.

IPCC warns policymakers not to stop ‘solar radiation management’ despite it's long term side-effects.

Quote:The Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) warns that, despite global side effects and long-term consequences, geoengineering techniques involving solar radiation management (SRM) should be maintained:

“If SRM were terminated for any reason, there is high confidence that global surface temperatures would rise very rapidly to values consistent with the greenhouse gas forcing.” [emphasis in original]

“Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis,” (referred to as “AR5”) supercedes the former report published in 2007. [1]  The IPCC’s first Assessment Report was published in 1990.

The discussion in the Summary for Policymakers and in the body of AR5 commends solar radiation management over carbon dioxide removal methods, which are limited in their efficacy on a global scale, yet admits that neither are ideal, and that both geoengineering techniques will have long-term consequences.

“While the entire community of academia still pretends not to know about the ongoing reality of global geoengineering,” comments Dane Wigington at Geoengineering Watch, “the simple fact that they are now discussing geoengineering in the latest IPCC report indicates that the veil is beginning to lift.” [2]

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“Block the sun but continue to spew billions of tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere,” is how Eli Kintisch characterizes SRM in his 2010 book, Hack the Planet. [3] In a world run by sanity, we would forego fossil fuels for free and abundant solar energy, coupled with Tesla’s development of free electricity, to meet the world’s energy needs, without destroying our nest by extracting and burning fossil fuels.

Solar radiation management has “three essential characteristics,” notes the International Risk Governance Council (IRGC). “It is cheap, fast and imperfect,” [4] Citing geoengineering activist, David Keith, the IRGC explains that by injecting 13,000 tons of sulphate aerosol into the stratosphere on a daily basis, they would offset the radiative effects of a doubling of atmospheric CO2 concentrations. This compares to having to remove “225 million tons per day of CO2 from the atmosphere for 25 years.”

Were reason to prevail, we would capture solar energy, not block it; we would shun fossil fuels, not wage ecocidal wars to seize remaining supplies. In today’s world, however, policymakers have diverted billions of dollars into blocking the sun.  Efficient systems cost around $10 billion a year, “well within the budgets of most countries,” notes the IRGC.

Read more at source link.....

Source Link

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I'm going to link Marlin's thread 'More Weather Modification Information' here as well, being as he has provided some more sources on weather modification.

Some of which I have yet to check out yet, but I most definitely will! :smallwink:

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Weather Control as a Cold War Weapon

In the 1950s, some U.S. scientists warned that, without immediate action, the Sovet Union would control the earth’s thermometers

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Article from Dec. 5, 2011

Quote:In November 13, 1946 pilot Curtis Talbot, working for the General Electric Research Laboratory, climbed to an altitude of 14,000 feet about 30 miles east of Schenectady, New York. Talbot, along with scientist Dr. Vincent J. Schaefer, released three pounds of dry ice (frozen carbon dioxide) into the clouds.

As they turned south, Dr. Schaefer noted, “I looked toward the rear and was thrilled to see long streamers of snow falling from the base of the cloud through which we had just passed. I shouted to Curt to swing around, and as we did so we passed through a mass of glistening snow crystals! Needless to say, we were quite excited.” They had created the world’s first human-made snowstorm.

After the experiments of G.E.’s Research Laboratory, there was a feeling that humanity might finally be able to control one of the greatest variables of life on earth. And, as Cold War tensions heightened, weather control was seen by the United States as a potential weapon that could be even more devastating than nuclear warfare.

Since the 1950's, it is recorded and a known fact that Man has been playing with Mother Nature. 

And once again, it is a race to come out on top, even if it means dire consequences to Planet Earth in the near future.
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Quote: August of 1953 the United States formed the President’s Advisory Committee on Weather Control. Its stated purpose was to determine the effectiveness of weather modification procedures and the extent to which the government should engage in such activities.

Methods that were envisioned by both American and Soviet scientists—and openly discussed in the media during the mid-1950s— included using colored pigments on the polar ice caps to melt them and unleash devastating floods, releasing large quantities of dust into the stratosphere creating precipitation on demand, and even building a dam fitted with thousands of nuclear powered pumps across the Bering Straits.

This dam, envisioned by a Russian engineer named Arkady Borisovich Markin would redirect the waters of the Pacific Ocean, which would theoretically raise temperatures in cities like New York and London. Markin’s stated purpose was to “relieve the severe cold of the northern hemisphere” but American scientists worried about such weather control as a means to cause flooding.

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Quote:In the May 25, 1958, issue of The American Weekly ran an article by Frances Leighton using information from Captain Howard T. Orville. The article, in no uncertain terms, described a race to see who would control the earth’s thermometers. The illustration that ran with the piece pictured an ominous looking satellite which could “focus sunlight to melt the ice in frozen harbors or thaw frosted crops — or scorch enemy cities.”

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And to only think of what countries, including the U.S. especailly, are capable of with the advanced technology.

So when one says "climate change due to Man", well they may not be far from the truth. They just deflect the blame elsewhere, to shift any attention to Governments.

And just like sheep, many people are gullible and naive to the guilt-trip shaming of how WE are harming the Earth by Government officials.

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I didn't know it had been around quite that long, but I knew it had been around for a long time. I recall reading in 1980 or 1981 a report titled "Soviet Weather Warfare Plans". The Soviets, at that time, had plans and were investigating methods to use weather as a weapon by making the weather so miserable and unlivable around an opposing force that they were induced to stop fighting and surrender.
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Weather control is something you can only use if you are the only person that has it. As soon as some one else gets it then it become under MAD, so I dont think anyone is using it now. But its very possible in the early day the tests got away from them giving some unexpected results.
(11-29-2020, 10:20 AM)Wallfire Wrote: Weather control is something you can only use if you are the only person that has it. As soon as some one else gets it then it become under MAD, so I dont think anyone is using it now. But its very possible in the early day the tests got away from them giving some unexpected results.

It is multiple governments, not just the U.S. 

In our country, sure it is more controlled now then it was. But still, since when have governments been 'honest' with the public when it comes to their black shadow projects? 

According to NOAA, mostly what is experimented with these days appears to be mostly cloud seeding.....mostly. 

Quote:In the late 1940's and 1950's many deemed "the deliberate or the inadvertent alteration of atmospheric conditions by human activity", also known as weather modification, as a promising science of the future. Currently, the most common form of weather modification is cloud seeding, which increases rain or snow, usually for the purpose of increasing the local water supply. Weather modification can also have the goal of preventing damaging weather, such as hail or hurricanes, from occurring.  

As part of Public Law 92-205 (1972), all non-Federal weather modification activities must be reported to the U.S. Secretary of Commerce, via the NOAA Office of Weather and Air Quality.  Below is a list of these reports and is updated on an annual basis.

Of course, they are not going to announce any controversial experiments going on. But there are numerous projects still going on...

Quote:Browse records in   all searchable columns  Project Designation  Project Number  Project Date Range  Activity   that   contain  start with  end with  are equal to      Search     
Project Designation
Project Number
Project Date Range

Wind River Weather Modification Project
08 - 1440

11/15/2008 - 04/30/2009
Augment snowpack/Drainage

Wind River Weather Modification Project
09 - 1465

11/15/2009 - 04/30/2010
Augment snowpack/Drainage

Wind River Weather Modification Project
11 - 1549
11/15/2011 - 04/15/2012
Augment snowpack/Drainage

Wind River Weather Modification Project
12 - 1570
11/15/2012 - 04/15/2013
Augment snowpack/Drainage

Wind River Weather Modification Project
14 - 1620
11/15/2013 - 04/15/2014
Augment snowpack/Drainage

Wind River Weather Modification Project
14 - 1624
11/15/2014 - 04/15/2015
Augment snowpack/Drainage

Wind River Weather Modification Project
15 - 1669
11/15/2015 - 04/15/2016
Augment snowpack/Drainage

Wind River Weather Modifi3cation Project
17 - 1733
11/15/2017 - 04/15/2018
Augment snowpack/Drainage

Wyoming 5 - Year Weather Mod/ Pilot Program - Med Bow Sierra Madres
07 - 1361
11/15/2006 - 03/31/2007

Augment snowpack
Wyoming 5 - Year Weather Mod/ Pilot Program - Wind River Mountains
07 - 1362
11/15/2006 - 03/31/2007

Augment snowpack
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I would like to think there is no more "experimenting" with Mother Nature, but the skeptic in me says Nah, don't be a fool.

Would explain their push for climate change, blaming people for it. When indirectly it could have something to do with multiple governments playing God with planet Earth for decades.

Just my humble opinion, mind you.

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(11-29-2020, 11:08 PM)senona Wrote: I would like to think there is no more "experimenting" with Mother Nature, but the skeptic in me says Nah, don't be a fool.

Would explain their push for climate change, blaming people for it. When indirectly it could have something to do with multiple governments playing God with planet Earth for decades.

Just my humble opinion, mind you.

I would like to think that playing God, would yeild some very interesting and unexpected results. 

There are areas that have been wiped out, and reported that nothing would ever grow there again, because of radiation, or salt or chemical spills, for just a few years later without aide or presence of man, a new lush landscape has grown, with wildlife in abundance. 

I see the Earth as an amazing life form that is beyond ancient and will always self regenerate. I can't imagine why she had to remove the dinosaurs, but I am sure we have given her enough reason to remove us.
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