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[France] Has Macron Taken The Red Pill?
#1
Can it be true and the worm is finally turning..? With the EU looking like last year's Notre-Dame Cathedral blaze,
is President Emmanuel Macron starting to see the light?

We'll find out soon enough.
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Quote:Macron unveils curbs on foreign imams in France, in bid to combat ‘separatism’.

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The gift... but it's slow-going.

'French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday announced measures to end a programme that allowed
foreign countries to send imams and teachers to provide services without supervision in France in a bid to
crack down on what he called the risk of "separatism".

During a visit to the eastern French city of Mulhouse, Macron said the government sought to combat “foreign
interference” in how Islam is practiced and the way its religious institutions are organised in the secular country.
"The problem is when in the name of a religion, some want to separate themselves from the Republic and
therefore not respect its laws,” he said.

Macron said he plans to end a programme created in 1977 that allowed nine countries to send imams and teachers
to France to provide foreign language and culture classes without any supervision from French authorities.

Four majority-Muslim countries – Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco and Turkey – were involved in the programme, which
reaches about 80,000 students every year. Around 300 imams were sent to France every year by these countries,
and that those who arrived in 2020 would be the last to arrive in such numbers, said Macron.

The government has asked the French Muslim Council (CFCM), the body representing Islam in France, to find
solutions to train imams on French soil instead and ensure they can speak French and do not spread Islamist
views.

The measures were part of a much-anticipated intervention less than a month before municipal elections in France.
Macron’s speech came at the end of a visit to Mulhouse, home to a large Muslim community that has been the focus
of the French government’s campaign against Islamism.

The new rules were intended to counter Islamic extremism in France by giving the government more authority over
the schooling of children, the financing of mosques and the training of imams, said Macron. "This end to the consular
Islam system is extremely important to curb foreign influence and make sure everybody respects the laws of the republic,"
he told a news conference in Mulhouse.

‘We cannot have Turkey's laws on France'
The scrapping of the programme granting countries the right to send imams and teachers to France would instead be
replaced by bilateral agreements to ensure French state has control over the courses and their content starting in
September.

France had agreements with a number of countries, including Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia, said Macron.
But the only country with which France did not reach a bilateral agreement was Turkey.
“Turkey today can make the choice to follow that path with us or not, but I won't let any foreign country feed a cultural,
religious or identity-related separatism on our Republic's ground,” he said.
“We cannot have Turkey's laws on France's ground. No way,” Macron added.

Turkey runs a vast network of mosques inside the country and abroad under the powerful Diyanet, or Directorate of
Religious Affairs. Under President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Diyanet budget has dramatically increased amid
criticism that the body was being used by Ankara as a foreign policy tool and an attempt to extend Turkey’s soft power.

Home to Europe’s largest Muslim community, estimated at around 6 million, or 8 percent of the population, France
has long sought to assimilate its Muslim nationals and residents in a country that holds fast to laïcité, or state secularism,
a 1905 legal principle that separated church and state and mandated the state’s neutrality on religion.

France has suffered major attacks by Islamist militants in recent years. Coordinated bombings and shootings in November
2015 at the Bataclan theatre and other sites around Paris killed 130 people – the deadliest attacks in France since World
War Two.
Most of the attackers were French or Belgian nationals who had travelled to Turkey and from there to Iraq and Syria to fight
with the Islamic State (IS) group.

Fighting ‘separatism’ or communities governing themselves
Addressing the issue of “separatism”, Macron warned of the dangers of "communitarianism" or the practice of communities
governing themselves in France. He called for better integration of Muslims in wider society.

"We are here for a reason that we share with Muslims – that is the struggle against communitarianism," he said. Macron
insisted the new measures were not anti-Islam, but were designed to aid the integration and provide opportunities for
France’s Muslims.

"What we must put in place is not, as I have sometimes heard from some people, 'a plan against Islam'.
That would be a profound mistake,” said Macron. “What we must fight is the separatism, because when the Republic does
not keep its promises, others will try to replace it."...'
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I am dubious of this plan. Macron says he wants to eliminate "foreign interference", but seems to fail to realize that Islam itself IS foreign interference, a foreign influence on local cultures. It cannot peacefully co-exist with Christianity or Secularism - that is, in fact, one of it's most basic tenets - "fight until the whole world is for Islam". There is no plan possible that will allow for a peaceful co-existence, because Islam itself will not allow it.

When I was a child, folks used to say that "it takes two sides to make a fight" - but it does not. It only takes ONE side, a belligerent one, to make a fight. It's just easier for them if there is no other side fighting back against them. That just makes their conquest a lot easier, when there is no resistance. Trying to "work with" or "compromise with" that belligerent side makes it all the more easy for the belligerents to just run roughshod over the non-belligerents. The belligerents just take advantage of the will for peace among the non-belligerents, and subjugate them.

Islam WILL NOT "integrate" into the French Republic, or any other Republic. Islam instead will force the integration of local culture into the Islamic culture, every goddamned time. You don't have to take my word for it. Just look for yourselves around the world and throughout history, to every place Islam has infiltrated, and see for yourselves the results of how the "integration" went - which direction it took. Any integration at all was integration into Islam. It has NEVER gone in the other direction. The only time Islam has failed to integrate a local culture into itself is when that local culture rejected Islam entirely and fought the Muslims away from and out of their local cultures and countries, as happened at Tours under Charles Martel. Even the Reconquista in Spain was only partially successful, as Islamic rule for 800 years in Spain irrevocably changed the Spanish culture to a more Islamic one. When the Christians took Spain back over, we got the Inquisition for their trouble, because of the Islamic influence and drive for intolerance it ingrained into the Spanish culture.

This is a war of extermination we are currently in. I don't like it, but that is the way of it. One side or the other will have to be exterminated, because Islam demands it and will settle for nothing less. They will not stop until either their culture or OUR culture is no more. We do not have a choice in the matter if we intend to retain our culture and our own humanity - the Muslims are not giving us that choice.

The sooner Macron realizes that, the sooner he will have his solution to the problem of Islamic Integration into the French Republic. What he has now (including this new "measure") is less than a half-measure - it will only prolong the bleeding out of France, and draw the destruction of her Republic, it's transformation into a caliphate, out longer.

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