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The Ice-Age Wolf/Dog...Thing.
#1
The more I read about the many anomalies in our world, the more I think the scientists know 'Jack Sh*t'!


Quote:Puppy frozen in Siberian wilderness for thousands of years could hold key to understanding evolution

A puppy frozen for 18,000 years could hold vital clues to how dogs evolved from wolves,
if scientists can figure out which one it is.

'The remains of an ancient “puppy” with whiskers, eyelashes, velvety nose and sharp teeth still intact has
left scientists flummoxed. The two-month-old canine is an astonishing 18,000 years old and was discovered
near-perfectly preserved in Siberian permafrost.
But detailed DNA tests have so far failed to establish its species.

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Experts are uncertain whether it is an Ice Age dog or a wolf – or perhaps an example of the evolutionary transition
from the latter to the former. So far tests in Sweden have drawn a blank.

The young male snarling with distinctive arrowhead fangs was found in summer 2018 in a lump of frozen ground near
the Indigirka River, northeast of the world’s coldest city, Yakutsk. The cause of death has not been established, but
experts say the young beast does not appear to have been in distress when it died during the Upper Palaeolithic era.

Russian scientists provided samples from the ancient canine to the Swedish Centre for Palaeogenetics (CPG) in order
to establish whether it was a wolf cub – as initially suspected – or dog. Dr Sergey Fedorov said: “The centre has Europe’s
largest DNA bank of all canines from around the globe, yet in this case they could not identify it from the first try.

“This is intriguing.” “What if it’s a dog? We can’t wait to get results from further tests.”
The Swedish scientists confirmed in a tweet that the animal was 18,000 years old but added: “So far, we have sequenced
it’s genome to 2X coverage.
“But we still can’t say if it’s a wolf or a dog.

“Maybe it’s the common ancestor? More sequencing is needed.”
The puppy has been named Dogor – which means friend in the local Yakut language in this part of Siberia.
But the name also expresses the uncertainty of whether it is a Dog … or something else.

Dr Fedorov, from the Institute of Applied Ecology of the North at Russia’s North-Eastern Federal University, said further
analysis would be carried out. One theory is the beast could represent a transitional stage from a wolf to a dog, reported
The Siberian Times.

Some modern dogs probably descended from just one population that lived continuously in Europe for millennia, according
to some scientists. They are seen as having evolved from an extinct wolf species some 15,000 to 40,000 years ago.
Others say the likely evolution is earlier...'
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#2
It's a wolf pup.

1) Can't be "transitional" if it's only 18,000 years old. Dogs developed from wolves between 36,000 and 50,000 years ago.

2) Same coloration as the Yakutian wolf head reported earlier in the year.

3) They're putting too much trust in DNA, to the point of ignoring the evidence of their own eyes and common sense.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#3
@Ninurta, I do agree with you, but I have to agree with @"BIAD" also with his comment: "The more I read about the many anomalies in our world, the more I think the scientists know 'Jack Sh*t'!"

I think most of our Mainstream Scientist are Blind and fail to investigate what is considered Abnormal or Cryptic.
Once A Rogue, Always A Rogue!
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#4
I believe the overwhelming consensus is that:

A. BIAD has no faith in mainstream science.
B. Ninurta has no faith in scientists' eye-wear.
C. Guohua has no faith in anything from the media.

Conclusion: Must find better articles and real source materials!

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#5
Here's something from earlier this year and at least those who are interested -when it comes to nature,
are looking outside the box for answers.

Jan. 13, 2021



Quote:The legendary dire wolf may not have been a wolf at all

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'One of North America’s most famous ancient predators -and a favorite of Game of Thrones fans -emerged
as mysteriously as it disappeared. Dire wolves, which died out with mammoths and saber-toothed cats at
the end of the last ice age, were long thought to be close cousins of gray wolves.

Now, the first analysis of dire wolf DNA finds they instead traveled a lonely evolutionary path:
They are so different from other wolves, coyotes, and dogs that they don’t belong in the genus that includes
these animals. Instead, researchers argue, they need an entirely new scientific classification.

“It’s a fascinating study” that reveals just how distinct dire wolves were, says Robert Dundas, a vertebrate
paleontologist and expert on the animals at California State University, Fresno, who was not involved with
the work.

Archaeologists know dire wolves lived in North America from about 250,000 to 13,000 years ago.
They were about 20% bigger than today’s gray wolves -the size of their skeletons often gives them away
-and, like other wolves, they probably traveled in packs, hunting down bison, ancient horses, and perhaps
even small mammoths and mastodons.

Many followed their prey into the sticky asphalt of what are now Los Angeles’s La Brea Tar Pits, where they
were trapped for the ages. Hundreds of dire wolf skulls line the walls of the California museum.
But that’s where most knowledge stops.
Because the skeletons of dire wolves are similar to those of gray wolves, the two animals were considered
closely related. Scientists have long classified dire wolves as Canis dirus, putting them in the same genus
as gray wolves, coyotes, and dogs.

But the one thing that could have sealed the deal -dire wolf DNA -had been broken down by the tar of the pits.

In the new study, researchers scoured North America trying to extract genetic samples from dozens of dire
wolf remains at universities and museums. They recovered about one-quarter of the nuclear genome and
the full mitochondrial DNA across five individuals, ranging in age from about 13,000 to more than 50,000
years old.

The genetic material revealed a new evolutionary family tree, and a surprise:
Dire wolves occupy their own lineage, separate from those that gave rise to African jackals, gray wolves,
coyotes, and dogs by nearly 6 million years, the team reports today in Nature.

“Even though they look like wolves, dire wolves actually have nothing to do with wolves,” says Angela Perri,
a zooarchaeologist at Durham University and one of the study’s lead authors. Perri and her colleagues also
recovered proteins from the collagen of a La Brea dire wolf, which supported the split between the species.

The mounting evidence has convinced the team to recommend taking dire wolves out of the Canis genus
entirely and putting them elsewhere in the larger Canid family, which -in addition to wolves and coyotes
-includes foxes, jackals, and other doglike carnivores.

Dire wolves would become Aenocyon dirus, a designation proposed in 1918, but that scientists largely
disregarded. “The Aenocyon genus was left in the historical dust bin, but it can be resurrected,” says
Xiaoming Wang, a vertebrate paleontologist and expert on ancient canids at the Natural History Museum
of Los Angeles County. “Based on the genetic data this team presents, I would support that reclassification.”

That could also mean a reimagining of what dire wolves looked like. Artists -and Game of Thrones creators
-have often depicted the predators as large timber wolves: bulky, gray, and ferocious. But Perri says living in
the warmer latitudes of North America may have given them traits more common to canids and other animals
in these climates, such as red fur, a bushy tail, and more rounded ears.
As such, she says, dire wolves may have resembled “a giant, reddish coyote.”

Genetic analysis further revealed the predators probably evolved in the Americas, where they were the only
wolflike species for hundreds of thousands -or perhaps millions -of years. When gray wolves and coyote
 arrived from Eurasia, likely about 20,000 years ago, dire wolves were apparently unable to breed with them,
as the researchers found no traces of genetic mixing.

That’s unusual, Perri says, as even species as diverse as dogs and coyotes can produce offspring.
This further suggests, she says, that dire wolves were a very different animal than these other creatures.  

Still, Wang notes the team was unable to get complete genomes from any of its specimens. That could mean
there are missing genetic signatures, which could indicate that dire wolves did breed with these other animals,
and could further help classify the species.

“We’re gaining lots of new insight into the relationship between dire wolves and other canids,” he says, “but there
are still open questions.” As to why the wolves disappeared, scientists only know that they vanished along with
other big ice age creatures.

Perri suspects climate change may have killed off the large prey dire wolves depended on, and that gray wolves
and coyotes survived because they could stalk smaller animals. Human hunting of dire wolf prey may have also
played a role, as it’s likely the wolves occupied North America with early Native Americans for thousands of years.

“These animals were not mythological beasts,” Perri says. “They lived among us. Not that long ago, the world was
full of creatures we will never see again.”...'
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