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IF DONALD TRUMP IS IMPEACHED, THAT WILL BE A SIGN THAT ALL HELL IS ABOUT TO BREAK LOO
#1
I would like to ask, are things that bad in the USA as is said in the below text or is it just BS given where the info comes from

Quote:We are headed down a road that is going to tear this country apart
Michael Snyder | Economic Collapse - OCTOBER 22, 2019 7 Kommentit 


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Most Americans don’t realize it yet, but in just a few weeks we will witness one of the most critical moments
in American history.

Right now the Democrats in the House of Representatives are drafting articles of impeachment, and it is expected
that there will be a vote by the end of this year.

If President Trump is impeached by the House, that will set off a chain of events that nobody is going to be able
to control, and if the U.S. Senate ultimately decides to remove Trump from office, all hell will break loose in America.

There are tens of millions of very loyal Trump supporters in this country, and many of them are extremely passionate.
Simply impeaching Trump would represent a “breaking point” for many of them, and if Trump is actually removed
from office by a Republican-controlled Senate it is inevitable that we would see a very frightening explosion of
righteous anger, and at that point there wouldn’t be much of anything that could be done to calm them down.

A large percentage of the population would instantly lose all the faith they ever had in our political system, and
unfortunately there would be widespread civil unrest in the streets.

In addition, the impeachment of a U.S. president would unleash havoc on Wall Street.

Trump has warned that the stock market would crash, and it is likely that he is quite correct about that.
Of course the U.S. economy is already steamrolling toward a recession, and so instability on Wall Street would
only escalate our economic problems.

It is not hard to imagine the U.S. economy plunging into a deep recession or possibly even a full-blown depression
pretty rapidly after Trump is removed from office.  And with utter political chaos reigning in Washington, it would
be difficult to convince anyone that things would turn around any time soon.


If the Democrats could have just been patient enough to get to November 2020, they would have had the opportunity
to vote Trump out legally.

But they didn’t want to do that, and now we are headed down a road that is going to tear this country apart.
What do you think the left is going to do if Trump is not removed from office and then he goes on to win again
in 2020?

Needless to say, it would be a temper tantrum unlike anything we have ever seen before in American history.
On the other hand, how do you think Trump supporters will react if Trump is illegally impeached and removed
from office before we even get to the election?

We truly are in unprecedented territory, and it is very difficult to see how this story is going to end well.
This is a can of worms that never should have been opened, but there is no going back now.
According to NBC News, the impeachment inquiry is rapidly moving forward, and Democrats plan to focus
their impeachment case on Trump’s “abuse of power”…


Quote:House Democrats are zeroing in on a framework for their impeachment case against President Donald Trump that will center
on a simple “abuse of power” narrative involving the president’s actions regarding Ukraine, according to multiple people
familiar with the deliberations.

As Democrats continue closed-door depositions with critical witnesses and prepare to move to the next phase of public hearings,
they are wrestling over which elements and evidence to bring in, which to leave out.
The goal is to explain to the public the reasoning and relevance of any eventual impeachment charges.

But can a president actually be impeached for an “abuse of power” that does not involve the breaking of any
specific laws?

As a former lawyer that has studied constitutional law, I would definitely consider that to be unconstitutional.
And removing a president using this sort of a pretense would set an extremely dangerous precedent.

Unfortunately, right now the momentum is on the side of the pro-impeachment forces.
On Friday, yet another prominent Republican came out in favor of impeachment
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#2
This would certainly happen if Trump was actually impeached, but it's fake news when they say more people want him impeached than not.
People naturally want to go with the majority so they "feel" a part of the crowd. That's where the lying media comes in. They put out ridiculous stories that people hate Trump in hopes of getting more people on the side of the Left. They show clips of MAGA supporters getting assaulted for showing their support, but this is a rare thing. You'd think it was happening to everyone if you listen to the lying media. They want people to be afraid to show their support for him. Then they make up all these stories of how unpopular supporting him is.

All one has to do is watch President Trump's rallies. If the majority of people were against him, would he continue to break records of attendance at every rally event where he speaks?

The numbers continue to climb because people are beginning to see how they've been lied to by the Left. If they actually Impeach Trump, it will be the end of the Democrat party.
A Civil War?  Absolutely, but I don't think it's going to come to that.
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#3
It is true, as stated - but the key word in it is "if".

Trump will almost certainly be "impeached" by the House of Representatives, with the vote going largely along partisan lines. The kicker is, the House can only impeach him, which is by and large merely a formal vote of "no confidence", but we already know the Socialists in power there have no confidence in him. Hell, they started threatening impeachment a couple of months before he was even SWORN IN, long before he had any opportunity to do anything official at all, legal or not.

The thing is, The Senate has to vote to remove him from office, and that will almost certainly NOT happen, because again the vote will go largely along party lines, and the Republicans hold power in the Senate. What we are likely to see is a situation where Trump is impeached by the Socialists, and then VOTED BACK INTO OFFICE in 2020, despite that impeachment.

And then the Socialists are going to lose there ever-lovin' goddamned minds altogether. All hell is going to break loose either way, because the country is now so polarized and divided.

They prefer to call themselves "Progressives" in the time-honored tradition of Socialist word games, but make no mistake, they are Socialists to the very core. They changed their descriptive word because of the stigma attached to "Socialist" and "Communist" during the Cold War, when we were killin' the bastards off in whatever dark holes we could find them around the globe. So now they call themselves "Progressives" in the hopes that no one will recognize them for what they are, but a lot of us old Cold Warriors do, and we educate the young in the matter as the chance presents itself.

Now, if by some odd twist of fate the Socialists managed to impeach AND remove Trump from office, all hell WOULD break loose then, too, because so many in the nation can see the stupid games the Socialists are playing. We know what a "Kangaroo Court" is, we know what "Star Chambers" are, and we can see them employing those exact tactics to remove a political opponent not because he has harmed the nation in any way (he hasn't - he has improved it considerably), but simply because he OPPOSES Socialism.

We see them driving full steam ahead while attempting to keep the nation and their political opponents entirely in the dark, allowing no access at all to any alleged evidence of wrongdoing. That is not how this nation was set up to be governed, it's how government functioned in totalitarian regimes. It will NOT be allowed to stand here should they prevail by hook or by crook in their endeavors to overthrow the nation and enslave the populace. What they are doing right now is putting their totalitarian proclivities on display for the entire world to see. The only thing missing (at the moment) is the gulags to send their political prisoners to.

So, if they "win", all hell will break loose when we start taking them out in masses to combat the implementation of totalitarianism, and if they lose and Trump is re-elected, all hell will ALSO break loose as they try to take US out overtly rather than via the covert route they are attempting at the moment. Either way, all hell is gonna break loose, and I'm too old for it now. If you think Antifa is a problem, just wait and see. Antifa isn't even a side-show for what is coming down the pike.

I fought Socialism and Communism overseas to keep it away from my home turf, my friends and my family, and here it is, knocking at the door, despite my efforts and the efforts of far better men than me. If I have to, I will STILL fight it to my last breath, old man or not. That just means that last breath will come a little sooner, as I'm not fit for it any more.

That's why they are desperately trying to outlaw firearms here. The likes of Antifa employ bicycle locks on chains and concrete milkshakes. A rifle will beat a bicycle lock or milkshake damned near every time, and they know if we are not disarmed, their attempted Revolution will go down in flames, literally. What they DON'T understand is that even if they were to manage to "disarm" us, a dangerous man is never truly disarmed - we will just change our tactics, techniques, and procedures to fit the new situation, and continue taking them out by any means possible... and there are a LOT of means possible, far more than just firearms.

Before I see this nation fall to the boot of communist totalitarianism, I am entirely willing to level it into a nuclear wasteland, without a single living thing here, and radioactive enough to keep it uninhabited for the next thousand years, just to deny it to communism.

I am not alone.

Yes, it can get THAT serious, although I really hope it doesn't.

I will NOT loose, so long as I still draw breath. After me, others will still be drawing breath, and enough of them will refuse to loose, too.

Communism will not prevail here, even if the bodies start stacking up like cord-wood.

Some of the opposition feel just as strongly about it, which is why all hell is going to break loose either way. It's just that my side is better armed, both mechanically and intellectually, for the moment.

I knew a guerrilla unit in Bosnia that started out as a group of men in a neighborhood that were entirely and utterly disarmed. So their opponents thought, anyhow. They armed up initially by taking out ONE soldier, and taking his weapons. A group of them enticed him into an alley for a "friendly drink", and that was all she wrote for him. They used those few weapons to get more, by taking out more soldiers. Those weapons thusly gained were used to get MORE, and in a month's time they had taken a weapons depot and started arming other guerrilla units.

It's all in who has the stronger "Want to". It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.


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" I don't mind killin' a man in a fair fight... or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight... or if there's money involved... or a woman... "

 - Jayne Cobb, Hero of Canton
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Thanks Ninurta, you give a very clear description of the mess. In Finland its been a bit different. For many years now there has been (I think the only word I can use is hate) boiling just under the thin covering of been civilized and the government just does not seem to care. The news papers seem to be covering up the shit that the imports are doing and this is just making people madder.
I dont know if the rest of Europe is the same but I think it is. 
You and I know what war is and what it means, its not just a word. A year ago I would of said the tipping point has not been reached in Europe, now im not so sure and that does keep me awake at night
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(10-23-2019, 08:06 AM)Wallfire Wrote: Thanks Ninurta, you give a very clear description of the mess. In Finland its been a bit different. For many years now there has been (I think the only word I can use is hate) boiling just under the thin covering of been civilized and the government just does not seem to care. The news papers seem to be covering up the shit that the imports are doing and this is just making people madder.
I dont know if the rest of Europe is the same but I think it is. 
You and I know what war is and what it means, its not just a word. A year ago I would of said the tipping point has not been reached in Europe, now im not so sure and that does keep me awake at night

Yup. It's evil, ugly, and awful. It will make you puke. It will make you cry. It will give you nightmares, and make you look at the entire world differently. Sometimes, it seems that people can see it on you like a stain, just by looking at you. With that said, however, I would still rather die on my feet than live on my knees, and that can be taken to the bank by anyone who cares to.

I may die, but I'll damned well die free.

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" I don't mind killin' a man in a fair fight... or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight... or if there's money involved... or a woman... "

 - Jayne Cobb, Hero of Canton
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(10-23-2019, 09:46 AM)Ninurta Wrote:
(10-23-2019, 08:06 AM)Wallfire Wrote: Thanks Ninurta, you give a very clear description of the mess. In Finland its been a bit different. For many years now there has been (I think the only word I can use is hate) boiling just under the thin covering of been civilized and the government just does not seem to care. The news papers seem to be covering up the shit that the imports are doing and this is just making people madder.
I dont know if the rest of Europe is the same but I think it is. 
You and I know what war is and what it means, its not just a word. A year ago I would of said the tipping point has not been reached in Europe, now im not so sure and that does keep me awake at night

Yup. It's evil, ugly, and awful. It will make you puke. It will make you cry. It will give you nightmares, and make you look at the entire world differently. Sometimes, it seems that people can see it on you like a stain, just by looking at you. With that said, however, I would still rather die on my feet than live on my knees, and that can be taken to the bank by anyone who cares to.

I may die, but I'll damned well die free.

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The problem is things can move so fast or boiling frog slow that the next thing you know you are on your knees hog tied ! It is better to head them off at the pass but ….in some cases and countries it may be to little to late already.. 

I totally agree they want us disarmed and it ain't about the children either.
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(10-23-2019, 10:06 AM)727Sky Wrote: The problem is things can move so fast or boiling frog slow that the next thing you know you are on your knees hog tied ! It is better to head them off at the pass but ….in some cases and countries it may be to little to late already.. 

I totally agree they want us disarmed and it ain't about the children either.

A couple of weeks ago, I had a Liberal visiting. We were sitting around chatting, and he noticed my loaded AR leaned against the wall next to my chair, where it lives. That turned the conversation to banning AR's. I explained to him that if they wanted to come get it, I'd hand it over 62 grains at a time, which kinda sent him into a tizzy. He ranted for a bit about how they didn't want to ban all guns, just "assault weapons and weapons of war".

I made a couple of points: 1) this ain't an "assault rifle", as it is semi-auto only, and assault rifles are select fire, by definition, 2) "weapons of war" are EXACTLY what the Second Amendment was written to protect. It's not about hunting, as hunting was never banned by the British in America - the Revolution started when they came to confiscate our "weapons of war" at Concord and Richmond, and 3) They won't stop at "assault weapons". As an example, I pointed out that his deer rifle is also a "weapon of war", subject to banning when it starts, because it is nothing more than a sniper rifle with a flashy paint job.

He had no answers for any of those points, so he moved on to the 40 round magazine sticking out of it. "No one needs a magazine that big. No one needs more than 10 rounds" he said. "I do" I replied. "I'm a really bad shot, and I hate reloading". He looked a little dubious, but since the statement was subjective, he really had no answer to that, either. I pointed out the kicker, that it's not about "need", it's about rights. No one has the right to eliminate MY rights if I'm not hurting THEM without cause, regardless of what I have or don't.

He couldn't answer that, either.

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" I don't mind killin' a man in a fair fight... or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight... or if there's money involved... or a woman... "

 - Jayne Cobb, Hero of Canton
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(10-23-2019, 06:30 PM)Ninurta Wrote: ...It's not about hunting, as hunting was never banned by the British in America - the Revolution started when they came to
confiscate our "weapons of war" at Concord and Richmond...

Yes, you guys seemed very peeved about that, but you must understand that if the British hadn't tried to to take your
guns, you'd have resisted and possibly gone on to form the most powerful country in the world.


Oh... er, you did.
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10 years ago I would of said  "no one needs an AR" But now the way the world is going, with governments tramping the people into the ground, yes you need your AR
Democracy need to be defended, some times with the lives of people, and that time is coming
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I finally got the Liberal in question to concede that "yes, if a war is coming, then folks need weapons of war, and it looks like that may be the case...", and then he looked at me all sideways, out of the side of his face. No idea what that was about, but a few days after that me and a couple of my sisters congregated at his house for a shootin' session, to polish up our skill. He watched me cut the bull's-eye out of a target, and then asked me why it was I needed 40 round magazines again. I told him to look at the target again - I'm obviously a really bad shot. If I'd been a good shot, all those bullets should have gone through the same hole, right?

Seriously - exactly WHAT weapon is not a "weapon  of war"? Isn't the concept sort of built right in to the word "weapon"? The phrase "weapon of war" that Liberals like Bobby O'Rourke use seems to be an oxymoron to me.

There are a lot of "weapons of war" around here, mostly sniper rifles disguised as deer rifles, but more than a few pseudo-assault rifles disguised as "modern sporting rifles". When That Day comes, it's going to be a bad day in this neck of the woods... and this county voted for Trump by nearly 90%, so most of the assault force is going to have to come from outside of here.

Roadways are already covered, and there is only one very small airport in the county, also covered and at any rate only suitable for small planes, like Cessnas. They're going to have to come in by helicopter, and private concerns only have so many helicopters, not generally suitable for troop transport. Unless the Liberals can take over the military, they're just going to have to surround us and try to starve us out. That might work in a city, but this ain't a city.

Good luck with that.

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" I don't mind killin' a man in a fair fight... or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight... or if there's money involved... or a woman... "

 - Jayne Cobb, Hero of Canton
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