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The Skripal Incident.
#1
I thought I'd separate the Skripal case from the thread it had been inadvertently embedded into (Something Is Cooking)
due to the continuing intrigue around the alleged attempted murder of the ex-spy and his daughter.

Please read the articles debated in the link, it's a fascinating tale that shows that either the British security systems are
incompetent or the mainstream media have baked this particular cake out of next-to-nothing.

It's 2019 and more is coming to light. The main characters are no longer in play, but Putin must be ridiculed.
Enter -stage left, The Cunning One.


Quote:Third novichok attacker may still be in Britain after Russian spy 'aborted his escape when it became clear
Sergei Skripal had survived'

*Third Russian agent under name of Sergey Fedotov could still be in Britain 
*He was scheduled to leave on same flight as two Salisbury accused, but left  
*Unclear why he got off but fears he left to finish off the job they left unfinished 

'A third Russian undercover agent said to be involved in the Salisbury novichok attack may still be in the UK.

The Russian military officer, who entered the UK under the name Sergey Fedotov, came to Britain on the same day
the other two hitmen travelled to the UK to assassinate Sergei Skripal.

He was booked on the same flight back to Moscow as the other two Russian agents but checked himself and his
baggage out before boarding. It remains unclear while Fedotov did not board the plane but raises the prospect
that a would-be Russian hit man could still be at large in the UK.

'It is not clear why Fedotov did not board the flight. But at the last minute he checked himself and his bags off it,'
a source told The Telegraph. 'He could still have been running around Britain.'
Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia survived after they came into contact with military-grade poison in March
last year. It raises the possibility that Fedotov stayed in Britain after realising Skripal was not killed...'


Well, this unseen chap is Russian, he flew on a Russian flight from Moscow and his name sounds Russian.
I'll get the rope.


Quote:'...According to documents, Fedotov is 45-years-old and was using a fake passport similar to the ones of Alexander Petrov
and Ruslan Boshirov, who were accused of the Salisbury posioning. Petrov and Boshirov were later found to be Alexander
Mishkin and Anatoliy Chepiga,  senior GRU agents who were awarded Russia's highest honour for services in Ukraine. 

The true identity of Fedotov remains unclear, as does his role in the Skripal poisoning. One theory is that he smuggled in the
nerve agent which was used in the attack. Mishkin and Chepiga were caught on CCTV in Salisbury on the day of the attack.
There are no known images of Fedotov.  

It has been suggested Fedotov carried out survillance missions, reporting back to the other two about the whereabouts of Skripal.
Fedotov previously travelled to the UK in March 2016 and March 2017 and again in 2018, according to Russian news outlet
Fontanka....'

You spell it as 'surveillance'. Jeez, In my day they had proof-readers.

Quote:'...There is no trace of Fedotov in documentary databases or on social media. He also has no property, vehicles or telephone
registered to his name in Russia, Fontanka reported...'
MailOnline:

He's very good this one. Let's just hope he doesn't read the Daily Mail.
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@BIAD He is good and I bet he does read the Daily Mail, a publication he bought from a news stand while relaxing in Spain.

Yes Spain, there he could Hide In Plain Site setting at a table in front of the Police Station.
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(02-07-2019, 09:24 PM)guohua Wrote: @BIAD He is good and I bet he does read the Daily Mail, a publication he bought from a news stand while relaxing in Spain.

Yes Spain, there he could Hide In Plain Site setting at a table in front of the Police Station.

I reckon you're correct and he'll wonder how a set of countries could be so liberal as to
let people come and go under the idea of just a money-and-power-grab.

And of Sergei Skripal...? Who knows and the Mail are unable to comment.
His house is now reported to being dismantled.


Quote:'...A military team today began dismantling the home of ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal –10 months after
he and his daughter Yulia were poisoned there.

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Soldiers in gas masks, rubber gloves and full-body camouflage uniforms were seen taking out a window
as part of a Novichok decontamination plan by the Department for Environment.
They are preparing to take the roof off the semi and its garage.

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A neighbour said: “It’s disconcerting to see soldiers here in protective gear after all this time.
"We keep being told we’ve nothing to worry about, but it doesn’t feel like they’re telling us the full story when
they’re walking around in gas masks and rubber gloves. We just want life to go back to normal.”...'
The Mirror:

They're not taking the house next-door though, does a door-handle-smeared poison only attack the
building it's assigned to?!!!

But something came to light that may have a reader frowning in puzzlement. At a time when hardly anyone
had heard of Sergei Skripal and his past deeds, a BBC Journalist was finishing his book about the ex-spy and
here in a 4th October 2018 article, it's said:


Quote:Yulia Skripal chose Salisbury as family home, book reveals

The Skripal Files by Mark Urban sets out intriguing details on ex-spy Sergei’s life.

'The daughter of the former spy Sergei Skripal chose Salisbury as the family’s British home after he
was freed by Russian authorities, a book on the nerve agent poisonings says...'


Quote:'...Urban’s book, which is published on Thursday, says Skripal was initially reluctant to believe the Russian
government had tried to kill him, and despite selling secrets to MI6, he was an “unashamed Russian nationalist”.

The book sets out how Skripal came to work for the west, his imprisonment and the spy swap that led to him
settling in the UK. But there are also intriguing domestic details about the Skripals’ life in Salisbury.

When Urban visited him last year, he was struck by the signs that Skripal was killing time.
“There was a stack of jigsaw puzzles … I also saw an Airfix scale model of HMS Victory. Sergei had put Nelson’s
flagship together, including rigging the masts with cotton, a fiddly task requiring considerable patience,” he says.

Also on display was a resin model of an English country cottage that had been given to Skripal by an MI6 case officer.
Urban told the Guardian he hoped the book would help people in Salisbury understand the global event that took
place in the city in March...'
The Guardian:

The book came out on the same day as this article and this piece was written on the Wednesday.
This means a publicist's release would have gone to the Guardian sometime in that week and of course,
the book was written even earlier.

Sergei and his daughter were poisoned on the 4th March 2018, which could mean Mark Urban was writing
the book of the Russian's life before, during and after the incident. Does it take most of March and another
six months to edit and prepare the book for printing?

WritersServices states:


Quote:'How long does it take to publish a book? There is no easy answer to this question.

One book might take a year to produce while another is designed and printed in
three weeks. It is sensible to allow at least three months for the process –six months
is even better.'

I understand that the UK Press will have a D-Notice on this particular case, but since Wikipedia
say Mark Urban was: '...After the 2018 Amesbury poisonings Urban reported that he was working
with Sergei Skripal up to a year before the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in Salisbury...'
and his book is titled 'The Skripal Files: The Life and Near Death of a Russian Spy', one can
suggest the BBC's Diplomatic Editor was around during the incident.


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Here's a strange thing that the BBC reported the day after I'd posted the above article.

It's basically an outline of the 'third man' scenario, but it offers another indication that this mysterious
man called Sergey Fedotov may have attempted a similar poisoning attack in another country recently.

'Bellingcat' is an online investigating company that announced they knew who the original two Russian
alleged-assassins were and were a major force in showing how a Russian security agency were involved
in the Skripal poisoning.

From the BBC article.

Quote:'...The British government blamed the Salisbury attack on the GRU.
Bellingcat say the third man, Fedotov, also travelled to Bulgaria in April 2015, at the time of a possible poisoning.

During the visit to Bulgaria, it's claimed that a businessman Emilian Gebrav, involved in the defence industry, was
hospitalised with symptoms of poisoning. Mr Gebrav survived.
In that case, as with his travel after the Salisbury poisoning in March last year, Fedotov failed to take the flight he
was booked on...'
BBC:

It's certainly well-worth a look at Bellingcat's website, but what I found curious was that the BBC in their confidence
of giving accurate news to the public, spelled the Bulgarian businessman's name wrong. It Gebrev, not Gebrav.
tinysure

This is the chap who the Beeb can't identify properly... and I swear, he's the double of the father of the lad that
lives in the next house to me!
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Jeez, I wish I'd never bothered! The original fairy-story was bad enough and then they went and added another
character to the credits. Now it seems, a whole freakin' gang of Russian poisoners can fly in and out of Britain!


Quote:Now five Russians are wanted over the Salisbury poison attack on former spy Sergei Skripal and
his daughter

*Police are investigating two more Russian agents of involvement in poisoning
*The newly identified pair posed as tourists to get a British visa last March
*The pair are now thought to be back in Russia, senior security sources said
*Police are expected to brief Government officials on the evidence against pair

'Police are investigating two more Russian agents suspected of involvement in the Salisbury poisoning.
The total number implicated in the nerve agent attack on former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yuli
is now five.

The newly identified pair posed as tourists to get a British visa last March and are now thought to be back
in Russia, senior security sources said. Police are expected to brief Government officials on the evidence
against the two men ‘within weeks’, it was claimed.
They are not believed to have travelled with the two hitmen. Their role was said to have been much smaller.

Mr Skripal, 66, and daughter Yulia, 33, were left fighting for their lives after they collapsed on a bench in Salisbury
on March 5 last year. It is thought they were first exposed to Novichok sprayed on their front door handle.
Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov, thought to be Russian military intelligence officers, have been accused
of travelling to the UK under aliases to try to murder Mr Skripal.

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A third Russian suspect was later exposed as Sergey Fedotov, although his real name remains unclear.
Police are now said to have collected more evidence against him, and identified the two new accomplices.
Scotland Yard said it continued...'
MailOnline:

Word-to-the-wise, Daily Mail... if you're gonna cut-and-paste an article, get all of it. What the hell does:
'Scotland Yard said it continued.' -mean?
Maybe they continued to look bewildered as half of the Kremlin came to the UK and took a swing at
Sergei Skripal.


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If one uses the link to DuckForCover's thread 'Something is Cooking' on Page One of this thread, you'll see how
I suggested the disappearance of Timothy Jerrell Cunningham in the United States may be connected to the
Skripal incident in Great Britain.

Tragically, the commander in the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention employee was later found dead
in a river in Atlanta. I attempted to find something, something that might show why I'd offered Commander Cunningham
as a possible player in the developing story in Salisbury. But nothing seemed to emerge in my very limited search of the
incident.

The media were focused on Russia straight out of the gate and the narrative that the Novichok nerve agent only needed
hazmat suits when removing it from Skripal's door handle and not on application, was never questioned.
A witness -Sam Hobson, to the alleged second accidental poisoning was immune to the substance when he was exposed
to it and again, nobody queried his account.

I believe we're still playing catch-up and a long way behind others on this case, but these comments from The Off-Guardian
may assist. It's about the Syrian Sarin allegations and the whole article is worth a read.

Quote:'...Little more can be done to expose the lies over chemical weapons, both in Syria and in Salisbury; their use either
by Syrian or Russian authorities has been completely disproven, while the West’s claims are now accepted as fraudulent
by the leaders and citizens of the resistance countries and their allies...'

Quote:'...On the first page of “The Red line and the Rat line” we were reminded that in 2013, and following that UK Parliament’
 rejection of a “punitive strike” on Damascus, Obama finally also baulked, though the reason was unclear.
Hersh’s intelligence sources claimed that:

"Obama’s change of mind had its origins at Porton Down, the defence laboratory in Wiltshire.
British intelligence had obtained a sample of the sarin used in the August 21 attack and analysis
demonstrated that the gas used didn’t match the batches known to exist in the Syrian army’s CW
arsenal.”
Off-Guardian:

Like I said, we're not even in the running on this incident, but I'm sure there''s some-sort of connection between Cunningham
and the tourist town near the Porton Down facility called Salisbury.

Then there's this line of reasoning by Craig Murray. LINK:
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(02-08-2019, 11:07 PM)BIAD Wrote: If one uses the link to DuckForCover's thread 'Something is Cooking' on Page One of this thread, you'll see how
I suggested the disappearance of Timothy Jerrell Cunningham in the United States may be connected to the
Skripal incident in Great Britain.

Tragically, the commander in the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention employee was later found dead
in a river in Atlanta. I attempted to find something, something that might show why I'd offered Commander Cunningham
as a possible player in the developing story in Salisbury. But nothing seemed to emerge in my very limited search of the
incident.

The media were focused on Russia straight out of the gate and the narrative that the Novichok nerve agent only needed
hazmat suits when removing it from Skripal's door handle and not on application, was never questioned.
A witness -Sam Hobson, to the alleged second accidental poisoning was immune to the substance when he was exposed
to it and again, nobody queried his account.

I believe we're still playing catch-up and a long way behind others on this case, but these comments from The Off-Guardian
may assist. It's about the Syrian Sarin allegations and the whole article is worth a read.

Quote:'...Little more can be done to expose the lies over chemical weapons, both in Syria and in Salisbury; their use either
by Syrian or Russian authorities has been completely disproven, while the West’s claims are now accepted as fraudulent
by the leaders and citizens of the resistance countries and their allies...'

Quote:'...On the first page of “The Red line and the Rat line” we were reminded that in 2013, and following that UK Parliament’
 rejection of a “punitive strike” on Damascus, Obama finally also baulked, though the reason was unclear.
Hersh’s intelligence sources claimed that:

"Obama’s change of mind had its origins at Porton Down, the defence laboratory in Wiltshire.
British intelligence had obtained a sample of the sarin used in the August 21 attack and analysis
demonstrated that the gas used didn’t match the batches known to exist in the Syrian army’s CW
arsenal.”
Off-Guardian:

Like I said, we're not even in the running on this incident, but I'm sure there''s some-sort of connection between Cunningham
and the tourist town near the Porton Down facility called Salisbury.
Now, that is Very interesting.  minusculethinking
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I guess one can forgive the media for adding some contrivance to their commentary due to the authority's
lack of revealing clues about an incident, but when that same command states something that they back-track
on later... well, it means facts are being distorted.
But to what ends?

Quote:8th March 2018.
The police officer who first attended the scene where a former Russian spy and his daughter were
found after being poisoned is also seriously ill in hospital.

The unidentified officer, who rushed to the site in Salisbury, England, is in critical condition in hospital.
The assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley of the Metropolitan Police told media:
"As you know, these two people remain critically ill in hospital.

"Sadly, in addition, a police officer who was one of the first to attend the scene and respond to the incident
is now also in a serious condition in hospital."...'


And there's the first one. A Police Commissioner affirming that Police Sergeant Nick Bailey was in the small
garden-like area near the Salisbury Maltings where the Skripals displayed their symptoms. It's been only
four days since the alleged poisoning and when one is on the inside-rail of what is going on, I'm sure what
the assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley of the Metropolitan Police said was what he also believed.

Quote:'..."Wiltshire Police are, of course, providing every support to his family," he said.
The news comes as authorities report the critically ill pair were exposed to a nerve agent.
Investigators have not revealed which nerve agent was used on Sergei Skripal and daughter Yulia but the
best known are VX and Sarin, the Guardian reports.

The ex-spy, 66, and daughter Yulia, 33, are currently in a critical condition in hospital after they were both found
slumped over in a shopping centre in Salisbury, in southwest England, reports The Sun...'
Queensland Times:

In the link is confirmation in a video that Bailey was the first Policeman on the scene.
So how can it be that later, it was reported that Nick Bailey received his dosage from the door-handle
of Skripal's home?

And how can it be that the same mainstream media don't question the discrepancy?

Quote:8th March 2018.
'Police Sergeant Nick Bailey has been named as the officer who was injured with a nerve agent  as he attended

the scene where Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were poisoned.
He was hospitalised after attending to the pair and is now thought to be awake and engaging with medical staff,
although he remains in a serious condition.

Sgt Bailey was highly commended in 2016 for his work in putting a serial rapist behind bars.
He worked tirelessly for two years in order to build a case against Arthur Bonner, who sexually assaulted multiple
victims over four decades between the early 1970s and 2014. 
Sgt Bailey received the Chief Constable’s Certificate of Excellence for his work at the time.

Kier Pritchard, temporary chief constable of Wiltshire Police,  said: "I did go and see Nick today and I met Nick
and his wife at the hospital in the intensive care unit.

...Sgt Bailey was one of the first to go to the aid of the Skripals, who were found slumped on a bench on Sunday
afternoon...'

Access to such toxins are tightly regulated, meaning the Salisbury plot would have taken considerable planning to execute.
Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, a former commanding officer of Britain's Joint Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear
Regiment, told The Times: "This is not the stuff you can knock up in your back shed.
"It is quite challenging to make. The inference is that this has probably come from a major laboratory, probably state-run."...'
The Telegraph:

Another example of -not what is just reported as true, but what the Police Force are saying occurred.

Then without a blink of the deceitful eye, The Guardian report this below on the 22nd November 2018.

Quote:'...The police officer who was left critically ill after being exposed to novichok at the home of the
former Russian spy Sergei Skripal has spoken for the first time of the “emotional battering”
he has suffered in the aftermath.

DS Nick Bailey, who was left critically ill after searching Skripal’s home on the night of the attack
in March, said that while he had made a physical recovery, the psychological impact had been serious.

He and two colleagues, dressed in protective suits, searched the house a few hours after Skripal and
his daughter collapsed in Salisbury city centre on 4 March. “I was the first person into the house,” said
Bailey. “We had to make sure that there were no other casualties.
The house was in darkness. It just looked normal. There was nothing untoward.”

But shortly after leaving the house, Bailey began to feel unwell...'
The Guardian:

And the park incident...? Gone is Bailey and now a kid and her convenient chief-nursing-officer of a mother
are attending Sergei and his daughter in play-area near the town centre.

The Guardian again, on the 20th January 2019.

Quote:'...Abigail McCourt, 16, gave first aid to Sergei and Yulia Skripral after they collapsed.
A teenage girl was the first person to help the novichok poisoning victims Sergei and
Yulia Skripal, it has emerged.

Abigail McCourt was with her family when she saw the 66-year-old former KGB spy and
his daughter collapsed on a bench at the Maltings shopping centre in Salisbury on the
afternoon of 5 March last year.

The 16-year-old thought Sergei Skripal had suffered a heart attack and alerted her mother,
Alison, who is an army colonel and chief nursing officer, and they went to administer first aid...'
The Guardian:

To report this and to not investigate the difference that a Metropolitan Police Commissioner means
we're either dealing with an entire retarded media organisation or an entire colluding one.

A D-Notice is not all it's cracked-up to be and here's what the same outlet -The Guardian, that interviewed
Nick Bailey says of the official request.

Quote:'The D-notice system is a peculiarly British arrangement, a sort of not quite public yet not quite
secret arrangement between government and media in order to ensure that journalists do not
endanger national security...'
SOURCE:

So what the hell is going on?
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There were some chit-chat amongst those interested in the Salisbury incident that Detective Sergeant Nick
Bailey went to the house after the 4th March 2018 as Sergei and Yulia Skripal laid in the hospital in order to
retrieve something. There, he too became effected by the alleged Novichok.

But the media and the Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley of the Metropolitan Police initially told the public
that Bailey was struck down with the nerve agent in the town centre park area.

The Blogmire puts it better.

Quote:'...When his name was first mentioned publicly, on 8th March, it was widely reported that he had been one of
the first responders at the bench in The Maltings. However, this was thrown into confusion the following day
by none other than Lord Ian Blair, former Chief Constable of the Metropolitan Police, who stated the following
on Radio 4’s Today Programme:

“There are some indications that the police officer who was injured had been to the house,
whereas there was a doctor who looked after the patients in the open, who hasn’t been affected
at all. So there maybe some clues floating around in here.’”

As I pointed out in that piece, the phrase “some indications” was somewhat disingenuous, as The Metropolitan Police
would have known by that time exactly where Mr Bailey had been. And in any case, there was no particular reason for
Lord Blair to reveal this information.

The official statement released by The Metropolitan Police on 5th June:

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“Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, a Wiltshire police officer who was amongst the first to respond
to the incident, also fell seriously ill after being exposed to the nerve agent and was admitted to
hospital on 6 March. Since being discharged from hospital on 22 March, Nick has continued to
make good progress but remains off work.”

So according to The Met, it wasn’t until well over 30 hours, and possibly as much as 48 hours after the incident on 4th March,
that Mr Bailey was admitted to hospital...'
SOURCE:

Then there's this from the Financial Times, more confusion about exactly what Nick Bailey was up to.

Quote:'...Health officials said on March 8 that 21 people had initially been treated for possible exposure to the nerve agent.
By the end of last week, the officials said they had contacted 131 people who might have come into contact with the
substance.

But only three people remain in a serious or critical condition; the Skripals and Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, who
was one of the first to attend to the Russian and his daughter. DS Bailey is also known to have gone to Mr Skripal’s
house, suggesting he may have been exposed to the poison there.

Two other officers, PC Alex Way and PC Alex Collins, also attended to the Skripals on the bench at the Maltings but
do not appear to have had any health issues.

Public Health England insisted the “immediate risk to those affected is extremely low”...'
FT:

It's known that at 16.15.pm in the park near the shopping area known as 'The Maltings', emergency services received
the first report of an incident involving the Skripals.

Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey was reported as taking ill later and it's possible that those involved on the periphery
of the breaking investigation may have assumed he was one of the first to respond to the couple on the bench.

As the official Metropolitan statement says, Nick Bailey was admitted to hospital two days after the Skripals
had taken ill. How could a person supposedly attending the scene of a highly-contaminating poison be unaffected
until -at least 30 hours, later?

With the nerve agent being identified, why would the same Detective involved in the supposed attending to the
Skripals then be requested to visit the house after the identification where the initial poisoning took place?
Is Novichok a substance he was skilled in to handle or was he seen as mere collateral?!


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On Friday 7th April 2019, the mainstream newspapers and media took delight in reporting how Charlie Rowley and his
brother were invited to the Russian Embassy Kensington Palace Gardens in London with the intention of looking into the
Ambassador's eyes and asking him...


Quote:'Why did your country kill my girlfriend?': Novichok victim Charlie Rowley comes face to face with Russian
ambassador, but says he was just fed propaganda during 90-minute meeting

*Charlie Rowley said he believed Russia was responsible for the Salisbury attack 
*His wife Dawn Sturgess died after being exposed to nerve agent Novichok 
*The 45-year-old said Russian ambassador didn't agree on country's involvement

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'Novichok victim Charlie Rowley asked Russia's ambassador 'did your country kill my girlfriend?' when questioning him about
the death of his partner. Mr Rowley said he still believed Russia was responsible for the Salisbury attack and that he was fed
'Russian propaganda' during the 90-minute meeting in London.

The 45-year-old and his partner Dawn Sturgess, 44, were exposed to the same nerve agent used to attack ex-spy Sergei Skripal
and his daughter Yulia last March. The couple fell ill in Amesbury months later after coming into contact with a perfume bottle
believed to have been used in the poisonings and then discarded. 

Ms Sturgess tragically died in hospital in July after spraying the perfume laced with poison on her wrists.

Speaking to the Sunday Mirror, Mr Rowley said Alexander Yakovenko had seemed 'genuinely concerned' when they met at the
Russian embassy in Kensington, but had not changed his view on the country's involvement in the poisonings.
Mr Rowley said: 'I went along to ask them "Why did your country kill my girlfriend?", but I didn't really get any answers.'

And the ambassador told Mr Rowley that his country wasn't behind the Salisbury attack because Russian Novichok 'would have
killed everyone'. Mr Rowley said: 'I liked the ambassador, but I thought some of what he said trying to justify Russia not being
responsible was ridiculous.'
'I'm glad I met him and feel I did find out some things I didn't know before. But I still think Russia carried out the attack.'

Mr Rowley, who says he continues to suffer from the long-term effects of exposure to Novichok, said he had asked the ambassador
'more than a dozen questions in all', including asking him about his claims that Britain was behind the attack.
He said Mr Yakovenko told him the substance used had not come from Russia and that the country only had small amounts of
Novichok.

Speaking to the Sunday Mirror after the meeting, Mr Yakovenko said he and Mr Rowley were 'on the same page' and wanted to
see a report into the investigation published. 'It is important for Russia, but also for Charlie Rowley,' he said. 'I've seen a normal
person who has really suffered a lot and who has suffered a tragedy in his life. If he asked for it, I would give him support.'

In September, Scotland Yard and the Crown Prosecution Service said there was sufficient evidence to charge two Russians -known
by their aliases Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov -with offences including conspiracy to murder over the Salisbury nerve agent
attack. They are accused of being members of the Russian military intelligence service the GRU.

Russia has repeatedly denied any involvement, with president Vladimir Putin claiming the two suspects were civilians.
During an interview, the pair said they were tourists visiting Salisbury - particularly its famous cathedral...'
MailOnline:

............................................

Right, let's break this article down and reveal some real truths, truths that this media outlet and others have assured the public,
are genuine.

First off, Charlie and Dawn weren't married. As the article states in the headline, Ms. Sturgess was his girlfriend.
Secondly, the Mirror Newspaper Group arranged and funded Charlie Rowley and his wheelchair-bound brother -Mathew's travelling
from an undisclosed location to the London-based Embassy.

You can't just turn-up at a Consulate and expect to see an Ambassador about killing your girlfriend. This was a carefully planned
meeting with people who who would see the merits of such an audience and the opportunity for a newspaper-exclusive.
Charlie and Mathew will have been coached in what to say -or not to say, a later interview on television gave the impression that
Mr. Rowley mainly listened to Mr Yakovenko's opinion on the incident and there was no revelations of ongoing investigations.

By the way, I wrote that Charlie's brother was wheelchair-bound due to every appearance on television and in newspapers, Mathew
is always in his wheelchair. Yet oddly enough, when interviewed by the BBC, he commented:

Quote:"...he was made to wear a protective plastic apron, suit and gloves, and was escorted
by a police officer when he visited his brother. "He smiled when I walked in," he said..."
BBC:

So we're not off to a great start, are we?!

Rowley and Sturgess were poisoned four months after the Skripals and the location of the delivery-item of the alleged
Novichok has never been revealed. The perfume bottle that is thought to have contained the nerve agent was in an
unopened branded package and Charliey Rowley cannot recall where he'd gotten it from.
The media-narrative has changed several times from the perfume being found in the Queen Elizabeth Gardens, a rubbish skip
or even 'taken' from a shop.

Quote:'...Charlie, 45, is unable to remember where exactly he and his partner found the perfume bottle
but it is understood to be near Salisbury city centre close to the spot the Skripals fell ill...'
Mail Online 1:

Later, Mathew-the-sometimes-lame stated:

Quote:'All I know, all Charles has said so far, is that it was a perfume bottle or an aftershave bottle,
and they picked it up in a park, and they sprayed themselves with it. 'I'm going to talk to Charles
later, and I'm trying my best to get the truth out of him about where he got it from, where it came
from, what make it was.
'It was nine days before they got ill that they picked it up...'
Mail Online 2:


For four months after the Skripal attack on 4th of March 2018, the small sealed-box containing the perfume atomiser lay
somewhere hidden from the hazmat-wearing experts scouring Salisbury for proof that the Russians had attempted to
assassinate a long-retired KGB traitor.

Ignoring that later suggestions were made by the British establishment that the spray morphed into a gel, Charlie and Dawn
came into contact with the device on Saturday morning of June 30th, 2018.

Then Charlie Rowley -the recovering heroin-addict and alcoholic, would later ask Mr Yakovenko why his country murdered his
girlfriend and on that terrible day, conducted himself thus:

At 10.15am, the South West Ambulance Service are called to an address on Muggleton Road, where Dawn Sturgess had been taken ill.
She was subsequently taken to hospital. Charlie Rowley and a friend -Sam Hobson, were also present at the address at this time.

Showing the concern that Mr. Rowley would have has during his time at the Russian Embassy, he and Hobson left Ms. Sturgess in the
capable hands of the medics and visited a pharmacy in Amesbury town-centre for unknown medicines.

Originally, the narrative was that Dawn had taken ill on her way to a church-fete at Amesbury Baptist Centre with Charlie and then
returned back to his Housing-Association dwelling by herself. But since the timeline wouldn't work, this had to be changed.

You can't have someone at a church-fete looking for free food before 10.00.am in the morning and then have the Baptist Centre
website later reporting:

Quote:"On Saturday 30th June, Amesbury Baptist Church held a community fun day and this
was a well-planned and successful afternoon for all who attended. We are not aware
of any concerns from the day itself and no one was taken ill.

We were shocked to learn that Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess are in a critical
condition in hospital having been exposed to nerve agent. Only Mr Rowley attended
our event.

Revd Barry M Davis"

A 'well-planned and successful afternoon' doesn't equate with a morning visit, so Sam Hobson took the place of Dawn
at the church gathering and the timing was altered.

The public were now treated to a timeline of:
The couple and Hobson being at Rowley's home some time before 10.00am.
A 'gift' was given from Charlie that Dawn Sturgess tested on her wrists and somehow damaged the perfume container.

Charlie took the remains of the atomiser and discarded it, washing his hands after the act. He would later comment that
the substance smelled of ammonia. (Piss...? She would spray piss on her wrists and not wash it off?!)

Quote:'...Matthew Rowley, who lives in Warminster, Wiltshire, told MailOnline: 'My brother told me that
he remembered that Dawn had sprayed the perfume on both her wrists.
'He doesn't recall much of what happened afterwards but that particular detail is stuck in his mind.

'He also mentioned that he vaguely recollects there being an odd ammonia-type smell from the
perfume. 'We don't know yet if he had direct contact with the nerve agent like Dawn appears to
have done or whether it was after he had touched her...'
Mail Online 3:

Sam Hobson -immune to such a deadly nerve agent, looked on during the incident. We know this due to Hobson's comment
quote from the BBC. '...Friend Sam Hobson said she had appeared to have a fit and was "foaming at the mouth"...'
The Beeb:

Ms. Sturgess succumbs to a seizure and the local hospital is called, presumably by Hobson.

Sam, guessing it wasn't a gas-leak or the drugs he's quoted to have said they may have used, accompanies Charlie Rowley
not the hospital but on the three-mile walk to Boots the pharmacy at the same time the medics took Charlie's beloved -using
a respirator, to Salisbury Hospital.

Holding the same concerns he showed the Russian Ambassador, Charlie and the 'Miracle-Man' -Sam Hobson, then collect the
medicine, walk back home and then at 1.45.pm. makes his way with Hobson to the Amesbury Baptist Church and wanders the
stalls of the fete until they return to Rowley's home in order to collect clothes for his hospitalised girlfriend.
That's the girlfriend he cared for and believes the Russians killed her.

Why she has a change of clothes at Rowley's abode is unknown as she lives nine miles away at the John Baker House for the
vulnerable in Salisbury. But when Charlie and Sam arrive home just before 3.00.pm. Charlie enters the bathroom, takes a shower
and after visiting his bedroom, he then returned in front of Sam and began convulsing on the floor in a siezure similar to Dawn.
If the Novichok nerve agent was causing the reaction, Hobson was unaffected and rang the hospital again for his friend.

Quote:"Er, I was with Charlie and he went to get his prescription down at the chemists and then we went
-and-got some food te' event that was at the Baptist Centre here. So we went and got some food
and then we went back to his house te' get ready to go to the hospital and he started feeling really
hot and sweaty..."
SOURCE 5:

Nine days later -just like the comment that the perfume container was found nine days before the 30th June, Dawn Sturgess died
of the alleged poisoning and Charlie Rowley slowly recovered from his interaction.

And now he wants answers... we all want answers!


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This story line should of been a warning to all as to what to expect at Brexit. And im not saying this as a joke
WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH, THE EU IS FATHER AND MOTHER
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(04-08-2019, 04:27 PM)Wallfire Wrote: This story line should of been a warning to all as to what to expect at Brexit. And im not saying this as a joke

I Agree.

Also @BIAD this statement you made is correct.
Quote:You can't just turn-up at a Consulate and expect to see an Ambassador about killing your girlfriend. This was a carefully planned
meeting with people who who would see the merits of such an audience and the opportunity for a newspaper-exclusive.
Charlie and Mathew will have been coached in what to say -or not to say, a later interview on television gave the impression that
Mr. Rowley mainly listened to Mr Yakovenko's opinion on the incident and there was no revelations of ongoing investigations.
JMHO
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