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I heard a rumor today.. another clinton death
As posted I am waiting for details and links

So I thought I would bring out this old dog


Quote:Bill Clinton is an evil man, and his wife is no better. One event stands out in my mind when I think of the Clinton's: Waco. Remember April 19, 1993? That is the day that evil cowards of the American Secret Police murdered innocent children and adults in the most infamous act of State terrorism against American Citizens: the Waco Holocaust. As an exercise of State power, the FBI, the BATF, and other thugs with badges incinerated dozens of human beings, people who had committed no crime and asked only to be left alone to practice their own beliefs, which the great document, the Bill of Rights, guarantees.
According to former White House aide Linda Tripp, Hillary Clinton pressured Vince Foster to resolve the 1993 Waco stand-off in a move that led to the deaths of the 86 men, women and children. Tripp said that Foster, at Mrs. Clinton's direction, transmitted the order to move on the Branch Davidian's Waco compound, which culminated in a military-style tear gas attack on the wooden structure. The compound burst into flames hours later as federal troops used a U.S. Army tank to ram the building and insert flammable gas. Tripp said she was with the former deputy White House counsel when the news of the Waco assault broke on television. "A special bulletin came on showing the atrocity at Waco, and the children. His whole body slumped, and his face turned white. He was absolutely crushed knowing the part he had played. And especially that he had played the part at Mrs. Clinton's direction," said Tripp. Tripp was stunned by the contrast between Foster's heartfelt emotion at the Waco tragedy and what she observed from Mrs. Clinton. "Her reaction, on the other hand, was heartless," Tripp recalled. Foster was found shot to death in a Virginia park three months later. Tripp's charge is corroborated by the 1999 documentary on the deadly confrontation, "Waco: A New Revelation." They bribed, extorted, threatened, killed, and God knows what else to achieve their ends. Two politicians that Machiavelli envisioned. And now these unbelievably depraved individuals want to return to power.


Susan Coleman: Rumors were circulating in Arkansas of an affair with Bill Clinton. She was found dead with a gunshot wound to the head at 7 1/2 months pregnant. Death was an apparent suicide.

Larry Guerrin: Was killed in February 1987 while investigating the INSLAW case.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry: Initial cause of death was reported to be the result of falling asleep on a railroad track in Arkansas on August 23, 1987. This ruling was reported by the State medical examiner Fahmy Malak. Later it was determined that Kevin died from a crushed skull prior to being placed on the tracks. Don had been stabbed in the back. Rumors indicate that they might have stumbled upon the Mena drug operation.

Keith Coney: Keith had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. Died in a motorcycle accident in July 1988 with unconfirmed reports of a high speed car chase.

Keith McKaskle: McKaskle has information on the Ives/Henry deaths. He was stabbed to death in November 1988.

Gregory Collins: Greg had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. He died from a gunshot wound to the face in January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes: He had information on the deaths of Ives, Henry & McKaskle. His burned body was found in a trash dump in April 1989. He died of a gunshot wound to the head and there was some body mutilation, leading to the probably speculation that he was tortured prior to being killed.

James Milam: Milam had information on the Ives & Henry deaths. He was decapitated. The state Medical examiner, Fahmy Malak, initially ruled death due to natural causes.

Richard Winters: Winters was a suspect in the deaths of Ives & Henry. He was killed in a "robbery" in July 1989 which was subsequently proven to be a setup.

Jordan Kettleson: Kettleson had information on the Ives & Henry deaths. He was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup in June 1990.

Alan Standorf: An employee of the National Security Agency in electronic intelligence. Standorf was a source of information for Danny Casalaro who was investigating INSLAW, BCCI, etc. Standorf's body was found in the backseat of a car at Washington National Airport on Jan 31, 1991.

Dennis Eisman: An attorney with information on INSLAW. Eisman was found shot to death on April 5, 1991.

Danny Casalaro: Danny was a free-lance reporter and writer who was investigating the "October Surprise", INSLAW and BCCI. Danny was found dead in a bathtub in a Sheraton Hotel room in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Danny was staying at the hotel while keeping appointments in the DC area pertinent to his investigation. He was found with his wrists slashed. At least one, and possibly both of his wrists were cut 10 times. All of his research materials were missing and have never been recovered.

Victor Raiser: The National Finance Co-Chair for "Clinton for President." He died in a airplane crash on July 30, 1992.

R. Montgomery Raiser: Also involved in the Clinton presidential campaign. He died in the same plane crash as Victor.

Ian Spiro: Spiro had supporting documentation for grand jury proceedings on the INSLAW case. His wife and 3 children were found murdered on November 1, 1992 in their home. They all died of gunshot wounds to the head. Ian's body was found several days later in a parked car in the Borego Desert. Cause of death? The ingestion of cyanide. FBI report indicated that Ian had murdered his family and then committed suicide.

Paula Gober: A Clinton speech writer. She died in a car accident on December 9, 1992 with no known witnesses.

Jim Wilhite: Wilhite was an associate of Mack McClarty's former firm. Wilhite died in a skiing accident on December 21, 1992. He also had extensive ties to Clinton with whom he visited by telephone just hours before his death.

Steve Willis, Robert Williams, Todd McKeahan & Conway LeBleu: Died Feburary 28, 1993 by gunfire at Waco. All four were examined by a pathologist and died from identical wounds to the left temple. All four had been body guards for Bill Clinton, three while campaigning for President and when he was Governor of Arkansas.They also were the ONLY 4 BATF agents killed at Waco.

Sgt. Brian Haney, Sgt. Tim Sabel, Maj. William Barkley, Capt. Scott Reynolds: Died: May 19, 1993 - All four men died when their helicopter crashed in the woods near Quantico, Va. - Reporters were barred from the site, and the head of the fire department responding to the crash described it by saying, "Security was tight," with "lots of Marines with guns." A videotape made by a firefighter was seized by the Marines. All four men had escorted Clinton on his flight to the carrier Roosevelt shortly before their deaths.

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The 86 Branch Davidians in Waco Texas: Who were tormented and harrased by FBI storm troopers for nearly 2 months. Under orders from the Clinton's and Reno, they were incinerated on April 19, 1993.
John Wilson: Found dead from an apparent hanging suicide on May 18, 1993. He was a former Washington DC council member and claimed to have info on Whitewater.

Paul Wilcher: A lawyer who was investigating drug running out of Mena, Arkansas and who also sought to expose the "October Surprise", BCCI and INSLAW. He was found in his Washington DC apartment dead of unknown causes on June 22, 1993.

Vincent Foster: A White House deputy counsel and long-time personal friend of Bill and Hillary's. Found on July 20, 1993. Foster's body was found in a heavily wooded area near Washington D.C.. The official cause of death, touted from the outset as a suicide, was declared due to a gunshot fired into the mouth. The weapon, said to be a black 1913 Army Colt .38 Special six-shot revolver, was said to have been found in Foster's hand. It is significant, therefore, to note that x-rays of the initial autopsy of Vincent Foster's corpse are listed by Federal coroners as now being "missing", and that no one in the Foster family recalls there being a firearm of that model or appearance anywhere, ever, in their residence. Also, there was no blood found on the cuff, sleeve, or wrist of Foster, as would have been elicited naturally, from what they call "blowback", by a self-inflicted gunshot held close inside the soft-palate. The first witness to find the body insisted that there had been no gun near the body. The memory in Foster's pager had been erased. Foster's office at the White House was looted. Secret Service agent Henry O' Neill watched Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret Williams, carry boxes of papers out of Foster's office before the Police showed up to seal it. There were indications the body had been moved, and a Secret Service memo surfaced which reported that Foster's body had been found in his car!

Jon Parnell Walker: An investigator for the RTC who was looking into the linkage between the Whitewater and Madison S&L bankruptcy. Walker "fell" from the top of the Lincoln Towers Building.

Stanley Heard & Steven Dickson: They were members of the Clinton health care advisory committee. They died in a plane crash on September 10, 1993.

Jerry Luther Parks: Parks was the Chief of Security for Clinton's national campaign headquarters in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car on September 26, 1993 near the intersection of Chenal Parkway and Highway 10 west of Little Rock. Parks was shot through the rear window of his car. The assailant pulled around to the driver's side of Park's car and shot him three more times with a 9mm pistol. His family reported that shortly before his death, they were being followed by unknown persons, and their home had been broken into (despite a top quality alarm system). Parks had been compiling a dossier on Clinton's illicit activities. The dossier was stolen.

Ed Willey: A Clinton fundraiser. He died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound on November 30, 1993. His death came the same day his wife, Kathleen, was sexually assaulted in the White House by Bill Clinton.

Gandy Baugh: Baugh was Lasater's attorney and committed suicide on January 8, 1994. Baugh's partner committed suicide exactly one month later on February 8, 1994.

Herschell Friday: A member of the presidential campaign finance committee. He died in an airplane explosion on March 1, 1994.

Ronald Rogers: Rogers died on March 3, 1994 just prior to releasing sensitive information to a London newspaper. Cause of death? Undetermined.

Kathy Furguson: A 38 year old hospital worker whose ex-husband is a co- defendant in the Paula Jones sexual harassment law suit. She had information supporting Paula Jones' allegations. She died of an apparent suicide on May 11, 1994 from a gunshot wound to the head

Bill Shelton: Shelton was an Arkansas police officer and was found dead as an apparent suicide on kathy Ferguson's grave (Kathy was his girl friend), on June 12, 1994. This "suicide" was the result of a gunshot wound to the back of the head.

Stanley Huggins: Huggins, 46, was a principal in a Memphis law firm which headed a 1987 investigation into the loan practices of Madison Guaranty S&L. Stanley died in Delaware in July 1994 -- reported cause of death was viral pneumonia.

Paul Olson: A Federal witness in investigations to drug money corruption in Chicago politics, Paul had just finished 2 days of FBI interviews when his plane ride home crashed, killing Paul and 130 others on Sept 8 1994. The Sept. 15, 1994 Tempe Tribune newspaper reported that the FBI suspected that a bomb had brought down the airplane.

Calvin Walraven: 24 year on Walraven was a key witness against Jocelyn Elder's son's drug case. Walraven was found dead in his apartment with a gunshot wound to the head. Tim Hover, a Little Rock police spokesman says no foul play is suspected.

Alan G. Whicher: Oversaw Clinton's Secret Service detail. In October 1994 Whicher was transferred to the Secret Service field office in the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. Whatever warning was given to the BATF agents in that building did not reach Alan Whicher, who died in the bomb blast of April 19th 1995.

Duane Garrett: Died July 26, 1995-A lawyer and a talk show host for KGO-AM in San Fransisco, Duane was the campaign finance chairman for Diane Fienstien's run for the senate, and was a friend and fundraiser for Al Gore. Garrett was under investigation for defrauding investors in Garrett's failed sports memorabilia venture. There was talk of a deal to evade prosecution. On July 26th, Garrett canceled an afternoon meeting with his lawyer because he had to meet some people at the San Fransisco airport. Three hours later he was found floating in the bay under the Golden Gate Bridge.

Ron Brown:. The Commerce Secretary died on April 3, 1996, in an Air Force jet carrying Brown and 34 others, including 14 business executives on a trade mission to Croatia, crashed into a mountainside. The Air Force, in a 22 volume report issued in June of 1996, confirmed its initial judgment that the crash resulted from pilot errors and faulty navigation equipment At the time of Brown's death, Independent Counsel Daniel Pearson was seeking to determine whether Brown had engaged in several sham financial transactions with longtime business partner Nolanda Hill shortly before he became secretary of commerce.

Charles Meissner: Following Ron Brown's death, John Huang was placed on a Commerce Department contract that allowed him to retain his security clearance by Charles Meissner. Shortly thereafter, Meissner died in the crash of a small plane. He was an Assistant Secretary of Commerce for International Economic Policy

William Colby: Retired CIA director was found dead on May 6,1996 after his wife reported him missing on April 27,1996. Apparently, Colby decided to go on a impromptu canoeing excursion and never returned. Colby who had just started writing for Strategic Investment newsletter, worried many in the intelligent community. Colby's past history of divulging CIA secrets in the past were well known. Strategic Investor had covered the Vince Foster suicide and had hired handwriting experts to review Foster's suicide note.

Admiral Jeremy Boorda: Died on May 16,1996 after he went home for lunch and decided to shoot himself in the chest (by one report, twice) rather than be interviewed by Newsweek magazine that afternoon. Explanations for Boorda's suicide focused on a claim that he was embarrassed over two "Valor" pins he was not authorized to wear.

Lance Herndon: Herndon a 41 year old computer specialist and a prominent entrepreneur who received a presidential appointment in 1995 died August 10, 1996 under suspicious circumstances. He appeared to have died from a blow to the head. Police said no weapons were found at his mansion, adding that Mr. Herndon had not been shot or stabbed and there was no evidence of forced entry or theft.

Neil Moody: Died -August 25, 1996 Following Vincent Foster's murder, Lisa Foster married James Moody, a judge in Arkansas, on Jan 1, 1996. Near the time Susan McDougal first went to jail for contempt, Judge Moody's son, Neil died in a car crash. There were other reports that Neil Moody had discovered something very unsettling among his stepmother's private papers and was threatening to go public with it just prior to the beginning of the Democratic National Convention. He was alleged to have been talking to Bob Woodward of the Washington Post about a blockbuster story. Witnesses said they saw Neil Moody sitting in his car arguing with another person just prior to His car suddenly speeding off out of control and hitting a brick wall.

Barbara Wise: Wise a 14-year Commerce Department employee found dead and partially naked in her office following a long weekend. She worked in the same section as John Huang. Officially, she is said to have died of natural causes.

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Doug Adams: Died January 7, 1997- A lawyer in Arkansas who got involved trying to help the people who were being swindled out of their life savings. Adams was found in his vehicle with a gunshot wound to his head in a Springfield Mo. hospital parking lot.
Mary Caitrin Mahoney: 25, A U.S. Secret Service Agent assigned to checking doors at the White House, opened a door one night and found Hillary Clinton in a compromising sexual position with Ms. Mahoney, a known lesbian since her high school days. Hillary was furious and whacked him in the head with a metal ashtray. Ms. Mahoney was shot to death at a Starbucks Coffee Shop, right in the heart of Washington DC, a short time later. On July 7, 1997 Mahoney was in the Starbucks cafe cleaning up after closing time with co-workers Emory Evans and Aaron Goodrich. Sometime after 9pm, two gunmen got inside and shot all three to death. Mahoney was singled out for the most horrendous fate - as if she'd been the killers' prime target. Of the ten shots fired, she was hit five times at point blank range, including at least once in the face. The final bullet was delivered to the back of her head after she'd already fallen. In one hand, in a death grip, Mahoney clutched the keys to the store's safe, which held the weekend's receipts of more than $10,000. D.C. cops were mystified by the apparent lack of motive in the crime. The safe hadn't been opened. The cash registers were undisturbed. The store hadn't been ransacked. None of the victims' personal belongings had been touched. A high-powered Washington FBI agent, Special Agent Bradley J. Garrett, was brought in on the case. He is known as "The Fixer", because he is called in to find patsy's to take the blame for government murders. He made this out to be a routine robbery murder case, supposedly committed by a small time criminal, one Carl Derek Cooper. After 54 hours of questioning by Garrett and another agent, Cooper signed a confession that he immediately repudiated as soon as he got to court. During his 54 hours of interrogation, Cooper had consistently denied the crime and volunteered several times to take a lie detector test. Most of the testimony against him was by agent Garrett, and based on Garrett?s representation of what Cooper had said during the interrogation. The questioning was not recorded or videotaped.

Ronald Miller: Suddenly took ill on October 3rd,1997 and steadily worsened until his death 9 days later. (This pattern fits Ricin poisoning.) Owing to the strangeness of the illness, doctors at the Integris Baptist Medical Center referred the matter to the Oklahoma State Medical Examiner's Office. The Oklahoma State Medical Examiner's Office promptly ran tests on samples of Ron Miller's blood, but has refused to release the results or even to confirm that the tests were ever completed. Had been investigated by authorities over the sale of his company, Gage Corp. to Dynamic Energy Resources, Inc. was the man who tape recorded Gene and Nora Lum and turned those tapes (and other records) over to congressional oversight investigators. The Lums were sentenced to prison for campaign finance violations, using "straw donors" to conceal the size of their contributions to various candidates. Indeed, Dynamic Energy Resources, Inc. had hired Ron Brown's son Michael solely for the purpose of funneling $60,000 through him to the Commerce Secretary, according to Nolanda Hill's testimony.

Sandy Hume: On Sunday, February 22nd, 1998, Sandy Hume, the 28 year old son of journalist Britt Hume, was reportedly found dead in his Arlington, Virginia home. Aside from the statement that this was an "apparent" suicide, there remains in place a total media blackout on this story, possibly out of concern that the actual facts will not withstand public scrutiny. Worked for Hill magazine, about Congress for Congress.

Jim McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally, sent to prison for eighteen felony convictions. A key whitewater witness, dies suspiciously of a heart attack on March, 8 1998.

Charles Wilbourne Miller: 63, was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head on November 17, 1998 in a shallow pit about 300 yards from his ranch house near Little Rock. Police found a .410 gauge shotgun near Miller's body and a Ruger .357-caliber revolver submerged in water. Investigators concluded the Ruger was the weapon used by Miller to kill himself. Yet, two rounds in the handgun's cylinder had been spent. He had long served as executive vice president and member of the board of directors for a company called Alltel and was deeply involved in his own software engineering company until the day he died. Alltel is the successor to Jackson Stephens' Systematics, the company that provided the software for the White House's "Big Brother" data base system and that was behind the administration's plan to develop the secret computer "Clipper" chip to bug every phone, fax and email transmission in America.

Carlos Ghigliotti: 42, was found dead in his home just outside of Washington D.C. on April 28, 2000. There was no sign of a break-in or struggle at the firm of Infrared Technology where the badly decomposed body of Ghigliotti was found. Ghigliotti had not been seen for several weeks. Ghigliotti, a thermal imaging analyst hired by the House Government Reform Committee to review tape of the Waco siege, said he determined the FBI fired shots on April 19, 1993. The FBI has explained the light bursts on infrared footage as reflections of sun rays on shards of glass or other debris that littered the scene. "I conclude this based on the groundview videotapes taken from several different angles simultaneously and based on the overhead thermal tape," Ghigliotti told The Washington Post last October. "The gunfire from the ground is there, without a doubt." Mark Corallo, a spokesman for the congressional committee chaired by Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., said that police found the business card of a committee investigator in Ghigliotti's office.

Johnny Lawhon: 29, died March 29, 1998- The Arkansas transmission specialist who discovered a pile of Whitewater documents in the trunk of an abandoned car on his property and turned them over to Starr, was killed in a car wreck two weeks after the McDougal death.. Details of the "accident" have been sketchy -- even from the local Little Rock newspaper.

Tony Moser: 41, was killed as he crossed a street in Pine Bluff, Ark on on June 10, 2000. Killed 10 days after being named a columnist for the Democrat-Gazette newspaper and two days after penning a stinging indictment of political corruption in Little Rock. Police filed no charges against the unnamed driver of the 1995 Chevrolet pickup, which hit Moser as he was alledgedly walking alone in the middle of unlit Rhinehart Road about 10:10 p.m.

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Barbra Olson: Had just recently finished writing a tell all book about Clinton's last days in office. Barbra Olson's book "The Final Days" is one place to learn the truth about the Clinton's. Read it and you'll learn why Hillary tried so desperately to stop it from being published. Olson was, more than coincidentally(?), on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.

I have to sit and think for a moment here

This means a lot if assumed true

1) probably a single ax man

Less that know the better

It does make Obama's survival a lot more.. Well, interesting.. It means his friends in Chicago are a hell of a lot meaner then the boys and girls from little rock

It also means their is a missing piece of history here
Obama's connections may have dealt with Clinton's connections

I am waiting to get details on the name of the new person to be added
Kind of unbelievable.
That many associated deaths in such timely fashions...and these people are still walking around, free


Makes them out as psychopaths... Genuine psychopaths
(06-12-2016, 03:00 AM)Minstrel Wrote: Kind of unbelievable.
That many associated deaths in such timely fashions...and these people are still walking around, free


Makes them out as psychopaths... Genuine psychopaths

(might want to change the font color in the quoted text to something 'lighter', as the black doesn't work well with the dark theme)

it gets interesting if you keep reading.. a very good story that fits in with all of this


Quote:The book begins as an idealistic former congressional worker, Henry Burton, joins the presidential campaign of Southern governor Jack Stanton, a thinly disguised stand-in for Bill Clinton.[4] The plot then follows the primary election calendar beginning in New Hampshire where Stanton's affair with Cashmere, his wife's hairdresser, and his participation in a Vietnam War era protest come to light and threaten to derail his presidential prospects.[4] In Florida, Stanton revives his campaign by disingenuously portraying his Democratic opponent as insufficiently pro-Israel and as a weak supporter of Social Security.[4] Burton becomes increasingly disillusioned with Stanton, who is a policy wonk who talks too long, eats too much and is overly flirtatious toward women.[4] Stanton is also revealed to be insincere in his beliefs, saying whatever will help him to win.[4] Matters finally come to a head, and Burton is forced to choose between idealism and realism.


Quote:Young political idealist and grandson of a civil rights leader Henry Burton (Adrian Lester) is recruited to join the campaign of Jack Stanton (John Travolta), a charismatic Southern governor who is trying to win the Democratic Party nomination for President of the United States. Henry is impressed by Stanton's genuine warmth and empathy with people. He joins Stanton's inner circle of political advisers: Stanton's formidable wife, Susan Stanton (Emma Thompson); ruthless, redneck political strategist Richard Jemmons (Billy Bob Thornton); intelligent and attractive spokeswoman Daisy Green (Maura Tierney); and sly political operator Howard Ferguson (Paul Guilfoyle) as they journey to New Hampshire, the first state to hold a presidential primary.

After Stanton completes an impressive debate performance against his Democratic rivals, Henry’s ex-girlfriend shows up to question Stanton about his arrest for an anti-war protest during the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago. In addition its revealed that Stanton called a U.S. senator to help him get released then Stanton persuaded the mayor of Chicago to have his police record expunged. The team becomes worried that Stanton’s past indiscretions may be used against him by the press and his political opponents. They hire Jack and Susan's old friend, tough but unbalanced Libby Holden (Kathy Bates), to investigate allegations that could be used by Stanton's political opponents to undermine his candidacy such as Stanton's notorious womanizing. One of Stanton's mistresses and Susan's hairdresser, Cashmere McLeod (Gia Carides), produces secret taped conversations between them to prove they had an affair. Henry discovers that the tapes have been doctored, so Libby tracks down the man responsible for the tapes and forces him at gunpoint to confess his guilt in a signed letter to the American public.

The campaign is then rocked by a fresh allegation when Stanton's old friend, "Big Willie" McCollister (Tommy Hollis) approaches Henry to tell him that his 17-year-old daughter Loretta (who worked for the Stantons as a babysitter) is pregnant and that Stanton is the father. Henry and Howard tell Willie he must allow his daughter to undergo an amniocentesis to determine paternity. Although they convince Willie to remain silent on the issue, Henry is nonetheless sickened and disillusioned with the experience.

Realising the campaign is falling behind in the polls, Stanton's team adopt a new strategy. Stanton begins going on the offensive by attacking his nearest rival, Senator Lawrence Harris (Kevin Cooney) for casting anti-Israel votes and favoring cuts in Social Security and Medicare. Harris confronts Stanton during a radio talk show in Florida but suffers two heart attacks after the encounter. He suffers a medical setback and subsequently withdraws from the race and is replaced by his friend, former Florida governor Fred Picker (Larry Hagman). Picker's wholesome, straight-talking image proves an immediate threat to the Stanton campaign.

Jack and Susan send Henry and Libby on an opposition research mission on Picker's past. They discover from his ex-brother-in-law, Eduardo Reyes (Tony Shalhoub), that Picker had a cocaine addiction as Governor, which led to the disintegration of his first marriage. They also meet with Picker's cocaine supplier Lorenzo Delgado (John Vargas), with whom Picker had a homosexual affair. Not expecting the information to ever be used, Libby and Henry share their findings with Jack and Susan, but are dismayed when they both decide to leak the information to the press. Libby says that if Jack does so, she will reveal that he tampered with the results of the paternity test, proving that he slept with Willie's daughter. Libby commits suicide after she realizes she spent her life idealizing Jack and Susan only to learn how flawed they truly are. Racked with guilt over Libby's death, Stanton takes the incriminating information to Picker, and apologizes for seeking it out. Picker admits to his past indiscretions, and agrees to withdraw from the race and to endorse Stanton. Henry intends to quit the campaign, admitting he has become deeply disillusioned with the whole political process. Stanton begs Henry to reconsider, persuading him that the two of them can make history.

Months later, President Stanton is dancing at the Inaugural Ball with First Lady, Susan. He shakes the hands of all his campaign staff, the last of whom is Henry.

I changed the color btw

this gives a pretty good look at it, but the death are not the same so....
Vince Foster Was Murdered - 'Suicide' Was Fixed

Quote:By Pat Shannan

Five years ago, this reporter took a slightly-more-than-cursory gander at the Vince Foster case and remarked, "It doesn't take a brilliant professional investigator to define this case, but it takes many to cover it up." 

Indeed, from Day One the facts have shown that medical examiners and investigators - following a tremendous influx of intimidation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation - had molded their own "facts" to mesh with the White House spin. And once again, the American people bought it. An uncommon cadre of amateur sleuths has proven the deception. They accuse the Park Police, the FBI and the Office of Independent Counsel including both Robert Fiske and Kenneth Starr of Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice, and the evidence is stunning. It all adds up to a "Failure of the Public Trust." 

"Eighty times the Office of Independent Counsel made specific points," says Washington, D.C., attorney John Clarke, "and eighty times they lied." His client is Patrick Knowlton, 44, who stopped at Fort Marcy Park on the western side of the Potomac River for a nature call that sultry July day in 1993, and stepped into history. 

The third player in this unlikely coalition is a professional magician, who deftly bamboozles his audience with sleight-of-hand card tricks in order to portray the government's chicanery in the case Hugh Turley. 

Their facts and figures do far more than convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. They show murder and cover-up "beyond any shadow of a doubt." The result of their extensive, indefatigable research is Failure of the Public Trust, a 510-page documentary (which sometimes reads more like a spy novel than a legal document) gleaned from the public record by Clarke in preparation for the Title 42 civil suit on behalf of his client Patrick Knowlton. Knowlton provided his eyewitness testimony, Turley did most of the writing and Clarke edited the whole thing. All participated in the research. 

The Mysterious Stranger 

To explain Patrick Knowlton's stumble into history and why there is a civil suit against more than 34 known and unknown defendants, we must go back to that fateful day - the day of Vince Foster's murder, July 20, 1993. Foster left his White House office at 1:30 p.m., saying, "I'll be back." He never returned. A few hours later, Patrick Knowlton, a building contractor having completed a hot day's work, finished a cold beer with friends and headed out on a two-hour drive toward home. At 4:30, he wheeled his car into the parking area of Fort Marcy Park, a quiet haven rumored to be a rendezvous spot for homosexuals and illicit drug exchanges. Knowlton was unaware of this but knew he could secure a spot for a brief pause in a secluded shadow on the leafy hillside. 

As he pulled his car into space #3, on his right in #5 was a late model automobile backed into the space. The driver appeared to be closely observing the front entrance, and Knowlton had an eerie feeling about him. As Patrick emerged from his car, the feeling was enhanced by a very menacing look from the stranger, who looked more like he was straight out of a James Bond movie. Knowlton admits the intimidating demeanor of this stranger unnerved him. 

To his left was parked an unoccupied mid-1980s brown Honda sedan with Arkansas license plates. Immediately after Knowlton The Mysterious Stranger and began to stare at him, menacingly. As he started from his car toward the footpath, Patrick heard the blue-gray sedan's door open. Apprehensive, he walked to the sign bordering the footpath entrance to the park and feigned to read its historical information while nonchalantly glancing to his right to see if the man was approaching. He saw the man leaning on the roof of the driver's side of the sedan, watching him intently. Patrick then cautiously proceeded 75 feet down the footpath's left fork to the first large tree. This was in the opposite direction from which Vince Foster's body would soon be recovered. (Knowlton and Clarke shudder to think what may have happened if Patrick had randomly chosen to take the direction toward Foster's location.) 

While busily relieving himself, Knowlton heard the man close his car door, but because the foliage was so dense, he couldn't see the parking lot and hoped the man was not pursuing him. As he walked back to the parking lot, he scanned the area with a new sense of awareness, but did not see the man. He purposefully in order to maintain space until he learned the man's whereabouts walked directly to the driver's side of the Honda and then around the back of it, observing and remembering several items in the back seat. He then was comforted to see that the stranger was back behind the wheel of his own car but still staring fixedly at him. 

Of the five things Patrick witnessed at the park and in the car, the "rust-brown" Honda itself is the most relevant and became the root of Knowlton's future troubles. It was not Vince Foster's car! When Foster's body was discovered approximately 70 minutes after Patrick left the park, the autopsy and other forensic evidence showed Foster had been dead for much longer than that.

Win Some, Lose Some 

Knowlton's suit was filed in October of 1996. In July of 1997, John Clarke learned that Kenneth Starr had issued his 114-page, double-spaced report, on Vince Foster's death. Under the Independent Counsel statute, those who are named in the report can submit factual information and comments, which in the discretion of the court can be attached to that OIC report. However, Starr attempted to prevent Clarke from attaching anything because Patrick Knowlton was not specifically mentioned by name but only as "C-2," the second civilian witness. 

Clarke then went to the Court of Appeals saying that the mere cryptic mention of Knowlton as "C-2" was sufficient to satisfy the statute and that his motion of evidence of a cover-up should be attached to the Starr report. The court ultimately agreed and ordered the OIC to attach the additional 20 pages of Knowlton's evidence for the three judge panel to review. Starr then, in a blatant move to prevent Knowlton's evidence from being heard, personally filed a motion to reconsider a motion which was immediately and summarily denied. Clarke did not even have to respond with an argument. 

The hundreds of pages of evidence in the case and Starr's Interim Report remained secret and under seal until its release on Oct. 14, 1997. Most recently, a 511-page report submitted by Knowlton was unsealed Sept. 14, 1999. The three judge panel, however, denied Knowlton's request that his report be attached as an addendum to the Starr Report on the Foster investigation. The just-released document is a point-by-point analysis and refutation of Starr's 114-page report. 

However, in the lower court, the trial judge granted the motion for summary judgment in favor of the multiple government defendants at the pre-discovery stage of the proceedings. That decision is now also being reviewed by the Court of Appeals but in the hands of different judges. Knowlton is prepared to take his suit all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States. 

More Suspicious Happenings 

Later, Leslie Rutherford, 19, reported an unusual confrontation as having happened on July 19, the day before the murder. She had been playing tennis in the afternoon and was walking home on the back road in the woods behind the park. She noticed a man in a suit and a tie standing in the woods. Peculiar enough, in a remote part of the woods and 95-degree heat, but when he saw her approaching, he turned his head in an attempt to hide his identity, and walked the other way into the brush. 

After learning of the body being found in that area, Leslie called the Park Police to report what she had seen. They took her statement over the phone wherein she explained that this was in the northwest corner of the park. Clarke says that this became a very telling piece during the Fiske probe when the report was changed to read "...the southeast corner of the park. "Obviously," he says, "someone was out there the day before checking out the scene, but nobody ever came to interview the young lady." Nor is there any mention of this road anywhere in the 20,000 pages of the public record. 

Foster and HiIIary 

Arkansas State Patrolman L.D. Brown served in Governor Clinton's security detail in the 1980s. At a weak moment during those days, he accepted the assignment of going to Mexico to murder Terry Reed (according to Reed) but had a change of heart while secretly watching Terry and Janis play with their children in the motel swimming pool. Instead, he returned to Little Rock without further attempt and later apologized to Terry. Considering the firsthand information that he harbors, some may wonder how he has survived the wake of "Arkancides" over the past two decades.

 In his 1999 book, Crossfire, Brown sheds some light on a motive - if not for the actual murder, at least for Hillary Clinton's rushing to capture/destroy evidence by sending Maggie Williams into Foster's White House office only an hour after the body was found. 

From Chapter Five we excerpt this sizzler revolving around one of the wife-swapping group's nights out on the town, which, according to Brown, was more ordinary than exceptional, You will see - as even Brown says - that the scandals of today are a mere continuation of the ones from the 1980s: "It would be a night that would demonstrate just how the 'understanding' worked. It would also serve to confirm in no uncertain terms who Hillary's 'significant other' was... 

"By this time Vince and Hillary were looking like they were in the back seat of a '57 Chevy at the drive-in. Hillary was kissing Vince like I've never seen her kiss Bill, and the same sort of thing was going on with Bill and Beth. Mike and Lisa [Foster]'s oblivion to the escalation of the amorous activity left me bewildered. No one seemed to notice me, except for Vince who would give the occasional furtive glance, sometimes accentuated by a wink... 

"Hillary Rodham loved Vince Foster, let's put that issue to rest right here. It has amazed me that the subject has been taboo in the 'mainstream media.' Especially after he committed suicide, a serious discussion of motive could not be undertaken until that variable had been included in any hypothesis." But John Clarke, Patrick Knowlton and Hugh Turley are not speculating with anything. As a matter of fact, they have not even interviewed any of the players. Their report takes the Senate Banking Committee in January of 1995, and shoots it to pieces. They have already proved their case by using only the federal government's release to the public and without hiring any private investigators. 

"There are over 900 footnotes in our document," says Clarke, "all of them relating back to the federal investigative record...our proof is unassailable." 

Some of the Twisted Evidence While space prevents our covering each of the 80 fabricated points, let us highlight a few. The team's research proved: 

1. Vince Foster could not have fired the weapon. (What more is necessary to completely eliminate "suicide?") The gunshot residue on his hands indicates that he was fighting off an attacker rather than firing the weapon with his thumb. Remington cartridges were found in the "official" death weapon but Ball Smokeless powder was found on his body. Remington has never used this powder in the manufacture of any of its cartridges. 

2. Foster could not have driven to the park. His car keys were not in his pocket at the scene, although they were found on him at the morgue following a visit from two White House Aides - Craig Livingstone and William Kennedy. 

3. There was no wound in the soft palate nor an exit wound in the back of the head, as the QIC reported. The bullet wound was actually in Foster's neck. A Teletype report from a field agent to FBI Director Freeh on 7/21/93 said that the preliminary results showed that there was "no exit wound." 

4. In reports from witnesses on the scene, first there was no gun in Foster's hand, then it was a semi-automatic, and finally became a World War I Army .38 revolver. Foster did not own this weapon. Clarke and his team believe the weapon is likely to be a .22-caliber pistol. 

5. Polaroid photographs vanished, contrary to the Starr Report. 

6. 35-mm still shots "looked good," according to the photographer, but the Starr Report said they were "underexposed." These photos also disappeared. 

7. Autopsy began well before the scheduled time 10:00 a.m. on 7/21/93, the morning after the body was found. Dr. James Beyer removed the soft palate and the tongue during this "pre-autopsy" period, which was the actual evidence that would have shown the bullet entered the neck instead of through the mouth. Dr. Beyer was assisted by an unknown pathologist and refused to tell the police who this man was. Authorities from the scene did not attend the autopsy. There was conflicting forensic evidence of a bullet trajectory and no official time of death was ever set. 

8. Park Police Sgt. Robert Edwards was alone with the body at the park for approximately 15 minutes and tampered with evidence. In addition, he was the last person to have possession of the initial photographs showing the body as it was found. 

9. The eventual "changing of stories" by almost every (if not every) witness at the scene according to Mr. Starr's still-secret FBI reports: 

a. Park Police Investigator John Rolla changed his statement and recalled more blood than originally stated by him. 

b. Park Police Officer Kevin Fornshill changed his deposition to say that there were "no volunteers," after first reporting there were. 

c. Firefighter Todd Hall changed his statement from hearing and seeing someone in the woods to saying it "must have been traffic" on Chain Bridge Road. 

d. John Rolla again changed his deposition statement from saying he took photos of the back of Foster's head to say he "did not" take those photographs but only intended to take them. 

e. Rolla also changed his account from his testimony that he had "emptied the [Foster] pockets" to he "did not reach into the bottom of the pants pocket." 

f. Fairfax County Officer David Tipton contradicted the previous testimony by Investigator Rolla, who said Kennedy and Livingstone were in the room with the Foster body by saying that they only viewed the body through a glass window. (This is when the Foster keys suddenly appeared back on his person.) 

g. Dr. James Beyer contradicted his own autopsy report that reflected X-rays were taken (and the Park Police report of his comments on the X-ray results) by saying that "the machine was not working." 

h. Paramedic Richard Arthur changed his previous account that he was "100 percent sure" he saw a semi-automatic pistol in Mr. Foster's hand to say instead, he "must have been mistaken." 

i. Firefighter Jennifer Wacha amended her account of never seeing a gun to saying that it was consistent with the one found at the scene. 

j. Dr. Donald Haut, Investigator Renee Abt, Park Police Technician Peter Simonello, and Park Police Investigator Christine Hodakievic all changed their statements to say they saw a pool of blood under Foster's head. 

FBI Involvement 

Although both OIC reports were the "final analysis," John Clarke allows that their failure may be chalked up more to ignorance (re: Fiske and Starr) than conspiracy. It is his opinion that the FBI was the real culprit here because the bulk of bogus information was compiled by its agents. Indeed, the pattern shown above of witnesses changing testimony to fit the government spin is a glaring signature of FBI footprints in the sand of an unsolved case. 

"It was an FBI investigation," says Clarke. "Robert Fiske and Kenneth Starr didn't perform the laboratory analysis or write the reports. They didn't interview the witnesses. It was all in the hands of the FBI. The first investigation was a joint FBI and Park Police investigation. The second one under Robert Fiske was an FBI investigation. Then Kenneth Starr decided to use the FBI to conduct his investigation. It was FBI all the way straight through. And Congress has never probed the death, not withstanding what the media have led the people to think. 

"In the 1994 Senate Banking Committee hearings, they were precluded by their limited jurisdiction from even probing into the death," Clake continues. "The only thing they could look into was whether or not there was improper conduct by the White House during the course of the first investigation. That was it as far as Foster was concerned." 

But little did Patrick Knowlton know that his episode in Fort Marcy Park was only the beginning for him. Some 18 months after the fact, British reporter Ambrose Evans Pritchard interviewed Knowlton and informed him that Special Agent Larry Monroe had falsified Knowlton's story by misreporting to the OIC that he had identified the brown car he saw at the scene as a "1988 to 1990" year model. This fabrication would have coincided with Foster's 1989 (silver-gray) Honda, except that they could not coerce this witness into agreeing to the lie. 

This poses the question: Was the Arkansas Honda temporarily "planted" in the parking lot long enough to be seen and then moved in order to further the false scenario that Foster had driven himself there with a preconceived plan of suicide? It was only when Knowlton was subpoenaed to testify before the grand jury in 1995, where it was known that he would refute the fiction of Foster's car, that the government harassment began. 

First, he began to notice that whenever he left his apartment, several plainclothes strangers would approach him from all sides. Some were well-dressed in suits, others were in casual attire. As both he arid his lady friend witnessed on numerous occasions (she called it "extremely unnerving"), agents would approach from the front, staring intently but never speaking.

Then, after getting the couple's attention, one "raised his wrist to his mouth and spoke into his coat sleeve."

On another occasion, one stranger confronted Patrick and reached into a shoulder bag, as if going for a gun. Reporter Christopher Ruddy also witnessed this type of intimidation when he once went for a walk with Knowlton. 

From the report: During the course of the two days beginning the day FBI Agent Bransford served the secret grand jury subpoena, Patrick suffered the cumulative effect of intimidation by at least 25 men. They acted in a rapid and coordinated fashion, obviously working in tandem, employing the same modus operandi of continuously staring and following. Of the first 25 men, 23 appeared within five minutes of his predecessor, 13 approached before his predecessor had departed... 

Experts tell us that the technique is known to federal intelligence and investigative agencies, and that its objectives were two fold: 1) to intimidate and warn Patrick in connection with his grand jury testimony, and, failing that, 2) to destabilize him and discredit his testimony before the grand jury. As suggested by the experts, Clarke and Knowlton agreed later that all this activity was performed by some government agency in order to make Knowlton appear to be delusional and paranoid whenever he might complain of these events. 

The Peugeot Incident 

More than a year prior to the emotional harassment, Knowlton had his property intentionally destroyed by a government operative. One evening Patrick and his lady friend were entertaining an out-of-town couple who wanted to see the Vietnam Memorial. Patrick took them for a ride there in his antique, refurbished 1975 Peugeot - his "pride and joy" and virtually his only asset. En route, they noticed a car with three men trailing dangerously close behind them. 

When Patrick arrived at the area of the Memorial and pulled forward of a parallel-parking place in preparation to back in, the car behind swiped the space before he could take it. Patrick pulled forward and took another just a few spaces up. Angry upon emerging, he aired his displeasure to the driver, who only responded with an obscene gesture. The group of four walked across the street to the Vietnam Memorial site. 

When they were out of sight, the driver of the other car got out with a tire tool, walked forward and began to bash out the taillights of the Peugeot. Then he walked to the front and worked over the headlights, grill work and radiator - to a he total tune of $3,700 in damage. Fortuitously, a limo driver was parked nearby, witnessed the whole episode, took down the Illinois license plate number, and gave it to the Park Police and Patrick upon his return. Following his report that night, the Park Police said after a week that they were "unable to locate" the car or the owner. 

It is important to note that the street incident took place more than a year before the aforementioned intimidation attempts but, by a strange coincidence, the night before Knowlton was scheduled to appear for his second interview with FBI Special Agent Monroe. In the suit, Plaintiff avers that this "was to cause Plaintiff to be in a deteriorated emotional state while being interviewed by Monroe. The conspirators sought to make Plaintiff more vulnerable to being manipulated by Monroe's haranguing to obtain from Plaintiff the sought-after admission that the Arkansas Honda [which] Plaintiff saw in the park could have been Mr. Foster's 1989 year model Honda." A year later, when Knowlton was preparing his suit, a private detective discovered in only one day that the car was registered to Scott Jeffrey Bickett, an individual employed by the Department of Defense and holding "Active SCI" (Sensitive Compartmented Information) security clearance - a top U.S. government clearance. "Upon information and belief (the suit says), Bickett has been briefed at FBI Headquarters, has served at the direction of FBI personnel, and was so serving when he committed the acts cited above." Bickett later confessed to the Park Police, but the Office of the U.S. Attorney refused to prosecute him. 

The Grand Jury 

Patrick Knowlton's treatment by the prosecutors during his grand jury testimony could be graded as "very poor." They kept referring to his "alleged" harassment and spent very little time on the facts of the case. However, they spent much more time asking about his contacts with Capitol Hill and reporters, insinuating a number of times that he was a homosexual and was in Fort Marcy Park that day for reason of a liaison with another. Once they even asked if the Prosecutors stranger in the park had pointed a gun at him, passed him a note or "touched your insinuated during genitals." Patrick was outraged and asked for a recess. 

Based upon the demeanor of the prosecutors, the questioning and the fact that one of the prosecutors sat behind him, Patrick believes that the OIC was in no way seeking the truth but rather trying to rattle and discredit him before the grand jury. 

The Knowlton civil suit is very important. The facts of harassment are telling. It begs that a mystery by solved. Why did several unknown persons commit multiple crimes in order to obstruct the investigation into the death of Vincent Foster? And why are these people allowed to remain "unknown"? No less than 84 personalized letters to members of Congress - those committee members having jurisdiction over the matter - were hand-delivered in July of 1996, informing them of the obstruction of justice in this case. There has been no response. A previous letter had been delivered to all 535 members of both houses and produced but seven responses. All were vague and came to no fruition. 

The answers to these and other questions boil down to the basics: The #1 priority of all bureaucrats, elected and appointed, is to remain in their positions. Pass the buck. Stonewall. Live for the next check and survive until retirement. Protect those who can protect you and chop off the heads of those who won't. And if the kitchen gets too hot, douse the flames of public indignation with as few repercussions as possible. 

Witness the recent cases at Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma City and the phony impeachment proceedings. The murder of Vince Foster is just one more to be added to that long and ever-expanding list.

---"The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." H.L. Mencken
He said it was this man

Tech specialist who helped Hillary Clinton set up her private email server flips - and is now willing to cooperate with the FBI after pleading the Fifth Amendment


  • Bryan Pagliano, 39, the IT specialist who set up Hillary Clinton's controversial private email server, is cooperating with the FBI 

  • In return the Department of Justice has given the former State Department employee and Clinton presidential campaign staffer immunity

  • Pagliano set up the server at Clinton's New York home in 2009 during the time she was Secretary of State

  • The probe is trying to determine if Clinton, current Democratic Presidential candidate, mishandled classified information

  • The FBI will likely want to interview Clinton and her senior aides in the coming months as it hopes to wrap up its investigation 
PUBLISHED: 00:35 EST, 3 March 2016 UPDATED: 11:57 EST, 3 March 2016



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First he said he would invoke his Fifth Amendment rights but now the IT specialist, who set up [url=]Hillary Clinton's controversial private email server, is ready to cooperate with the FBI.
In doing so, Bryan Pagliano, 39, has been granted immunity by the Justice Department as it continues its criminal investigation into whether or not the current Democratic Presidential candidate mishandled classified information.

Pagliano, a former State Department employee and Clinton presidential campaign staffer, set up the server in 2009 at her New York home during her time as Secretary of State.
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Flipped: IT specialist Bryan Pagliano (pictured right with Hillary Clinton and his wife Carrie) is now cooperating with the FBI in its investigation into Democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's private email server
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All in the family: Bill Clinton posed for a photo as well with Pagliano and his wife. Pagliano set up the private email server in Hillary's New York home in 2009 
The FBI will likely want to interview Clinton and her senior aides about the decision to use a private server as it hopes to wrap its investigation in the coming months, current and former officials told The Washington Post.

'There was wrongdoing,' said one official to the newspaper. 'But was it criminal wrongdoing?'
Pagliano said last year he would use his Fifth Amendment rights in order to not testify before the House committee on Benghazi.
At the time Brian Fallon, a spokesman for Clinton's presidential campaign, said: '(Clinton has) encouraged everyone to cooperate because we want to make every good-faith effort to be transparent and answer any questions people have. 
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Immunity: Bryan Pagliano (pictured last year) initially said he would invoke the Fifth Amendment
'With Mr. Pagliano, we encouraged him as well because we don't think he has any reason to not be transparent about the help that he provided from an IT perspective, but unfortunately, it is his choice what to do.'
Fallon tells The New York Times the campaign was 'pleased' that Pagliano was cooperating.
The New York Times also reports that in addition to the FBI investigation, there are continuing inquiries into Clinton's emails by the inspector general of the State Department, the inspector general of the intelligence agencies, the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security and the House Select Committee on Benghazi.

Some Republicans are also concerned that Pagliano may have been doing private work for Hillary Clinton while on the public dime.
Pagliano lives with his wife Carrie, a physical therapist at Georgetown University Hospital,  in the Washington D.C. suburb of Arlington, Virginia with their two children.
He worked as IT director for Clinton's presidential campaign in the 2008 Democratic primaries, when she lost the party's nomination to President Barack Obama.
He set up the private server in her home while still working for Hillary Clinton for President. 

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Clinton has apologized for the scandal admitting she should have used two email addresses
But within three months of President Obama appointing the former First Lady to his Cabinet, he jumped to a new post as special adviser at the Department of State. 
Pagliano left the Department of State in 2013 to take up a new post as research director for the Washington-based IT company Gartner, specializing in government practice. 

Clinton has since apologized for the email scandal. 
'Yes, I should have used two email addresses, one for personal matters and one for my work at the State Department,' she said. 
'Not doing so was a mistake. I'm sorry about it, and I take full responsibility.'

U.S. spy agencies told Congress last month that Hillary Clinton's home computer server contained some emails that should have been treated as 'top secret' because their wording matched sections of some of the government's most highly classified documents.
The agencies did not find any top secret documents that passed through Clinton's server in their full version, the sources from Congress and the government's executive branch said.
However, the agency reports found some emails included passages that closely tracked or mirrored communications marked 'top secret,' according to the sources, who all requested anonymity.

Could not get fount to change my apologies

The main problem is that from what I heard he was already dead
It is frustrating because it may not have hit the news yet...

we will wait and see
Wow... just, wow!   mediumomg 

I knew they were evil, but, since I don't keep up with politics that closely, I was not aware of all these deaths. 
Thank you for sharing this.  Great thread!  minusculeclap

Sorry for being dense...but...are you saying you have information that Pagliano is dead, now?
Again - sorry if I'm just really missing the boat.
(06-12-2016, 06:27 PM)Minstrel Wrote: Sorry for being dense...but...are you saying you have information that Pagliano is dead, now?
Again - sorry if I'm just really missing the boat.

Its me and my insanity

I am waiting for confirmation
This was all third hand on Pagliano- (better described as the tale end of the telephone game)

It was third party and the source referenced in the conversation I have not been able to get ahold of

That is why I am frustrated

It inspired the thread..

All I can find is the last person on the list
(not counting benghazi -which follows formula/pattern of the deaths)

The white house chef- from clinton into bush's admin

found dead in a lake from accidental drowning
out by himself

I apologize for any misunderstanding again

edit: it is very frustrating but I am watching the news to see if it is slipped in


(06-12-2016, 02:41 AM)Armonica_Templar Wrote: As posted I am waiting for details and links

I see the problem my response to you should have been with this part of the post

My apologies

well.. this is interesting as well

I am putting this here because it will lead to other evidence chains

Of note.. the book clinton cash

several new deaths list at the start
Excellent video and I'd say Accurate.
The only problem, Main Stream Media (MSM) will not Discuss or Acknowledge the Wikileaks and they haven't admitted to the Accuracy either.
If these emails from wikileak was about Trump, Well they'd be all over the news.

So, they main problem we see is the fact that your average Liberal knows nothing about these leaks or their actual Validity!
Once A Rogue, Always A Rogue!
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Here is another one to add to the list:  JUST IN: CLOSE FRIEND of Hillary Clinton Who Planned To “Step Away From Politics” Found DEAD In Apparent Suicide

Quote:Houston, Texas trial lawyer and Democrat mega-donor Steve Mostyn died on Thursday in what authorities are saying was a “suicide,” according to the Houston Chronicle. Mr. Mostyn was only 46, he left behind a wife and several children, and earlier this year had announced that he was going to be stepping away from politics to spend more time with his family.

Details about how Mr. Mostyn allegedly committed suicide are slim. However, his family said that it happened after he “suddenly” became afflicted with some sort of mental illness then took his own life, although they weren’t clear as to what type of mental illness he suffered from.

But it is worth noting that Mr. Mostyn had never suffered from mental illness in the past, according to his family, further raising suspicions over the manner in which he died.

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