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Propaganda watch
(09-01-2018, 04:22 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:
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I'm not a fan of Bill Clinton, but he's actually doing what most men do, admiring the female form.
I vaguely know who Ariana Grande is from the UK-Manchester concert bombing and she seems to
hold a current style of attractiveness for males.

I would like to write that Clinton is probably play-acting to indicate his marvel for the alleged singer,
but he's always been one for perceiving women as mere vessels for his lust and has no regard for their
status as a human-being. 'You better get some ice on that.'
 
I know that it isn't in vogue at the moment and there's a level of decorum that we're supposed to adhere
to, but Bill Clinton in the above image is doing something that is built-in to the male-psyche, checking for
fat-distribution and being mentally-held by the age-old approach to mounting a female in a way that is
deemed normal in the natural world.

It's coarse to speak like this -I know, and it also dilutes the in-group, out-group situation on discussion sites
such as Rogue Nation, but it's real and what concerns me-personally is -not only the belligerent manner that
Bill Clinton interacts with females, but his assumption that he can do it and get away with it because he simply
believes he's better than his victims.

Maybe Amaterasu Solar was correct when he called them all psychopaths!

We need to to get out of this pretentious sphere of being outraged at the basic make-up of men and
women and get back to what a civilised society takes as 'normal'. The whole dichotomy of sexual behavior
has been compressed into pockets of innuendo and maybes, a corralled system where real sexual predators
can enjoy the foggy hunting-grounds of 'How-Dare-You'-ness where the bleating weak roam.

I agree an ex-President should hold himself to a higher standard than a leering cigar-case-wielding freak who
married something that's supposed to be a woman, the post of a leader has qualities that demands the bearer
to carry them for the rest of their lives. Clinton -both of them in fact, degraded his position just like many noted
leaders have all around the world.

Men are men and women are women. For the media, anything in between usually has some-sort of lurid sexual
connotation to it for ratings-value only. The problem with this is it promotes negative conduct and debatable
practices for the sole reason of keeping the media employed and by doing so, implies it's acceptable.

You'll notice that they never bring a guy onto the stage that's called 'Joe' and he's a mechanic who's married with a
couple of kids and hasn't done anything outrageous or holds what they consider intrigue. 

Being a standard part of a community isn't sexy... isn't 'news' anymore. Being a male in a dress visiting one of Target's
unisex toilets is. It's simply because people with a certain view on the world think everyone else around them thinks
that way. But it's never worked like that, some are good and kind, others prey on the blindness to evil actions.

People can be good and people can be bad, there's no divine system that can stop us from crossing the agreed societal
lines. All we can do is try to get along with each other in a non-destructive way.

Hence my Username, it confuses people on the internet with what reality really is! I ain't a boy and I don't wear a dress!
(But Bill is still a pervert.)
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(09-24-2018, 11:27 PM)Armonica_Templar Wrote: ....I think that the comic book industry has adapted to appeal to wider audience that includes more minority
characters in order to survive...

Right there is the true reason why the 'Comicgate' and the 'Gamergate' situations arose.
But if you tell the buyer the real reason it might effect ones livelihood and so a supposed
'higher' reason was created.

Of course there are people who can latch onto the idea that comics were catering for a certain
select group and they were catering for a select group, but it had nothing to do with gender or race,
it was to do with their market location.

Girls bought girl's magazines because the contents were for a generic girl to appreciate. The same
went for 'action' comics and boys.
A simple struggling medium used a blown-up outrage-provoking narrative which saw the opportunity
for a power-grab to salve their undeveloped emotions and the comic-industry ran with it.

The same comic-businesses believed that for a short time, it would promote their products in minority
sections, develop their characters to cater for these communities and the die-hard regular readers would
assume it's just part of a changing paradigm and continue to purchase their favourite comics.

What they didn't figure on was that for large sections of their customers, they'd see the 'take-over' and
openly rebel or just move-off to another interest. The indifferent and neutral owners of comic companies
were hoping that the change may initially take-up any shortfall and then quietly move their story-lines back
to near where they were and just encompass a larger 'diverse' readership.

What they also didn't take into consideration was the actual power-grab by certain parties that was based on
a belief and not preference.
.............................................

Peter Parker was a character, he wasn't white or black, gay or straight... he is an imaginary persona that was
used in exciting adventures that offered the grey-areas of decision-making in adulthood that lay ahead for the
young reader. That's it.

If he'd been Peter Parker, the scrounging photographer living hand-to-mouth, getting only part-time employment
from The Daily Bugle and struggling to get Mary-Jane to put-out for him, the bored customers would've moved to
something more interesting and Ditko would've dumped the character.

However, if you're a young person with emotions that don't fit into the accepted norms of Parker, The Reeds and
Bruce Wayne, then melodramatically -you're the outsider with the natural need to be part of a group.
What better way than taking a group, demanding via emotional taboo of certain prejudices and discrimination that
this group conform to your own beliefs without any resistance.
And quickly adding that to resist this change proves you adhere to accepted negative societal norms.

It enforces your own confidence that you're correct and offers a section of villains that you can fight for your 'cause'
with. It ensures that you will be a 'comrade', part of something and as the adult-world awaits, you no longer feel
alone.
Yer' know... the way young people have always felt when they're told to put their toys away and be an adult.

Bolstering ones doubts brings great benefits to a kid who sees the daunting prospect of failing in a world where
you're told you're supposed to succeed in.

Comics never dealt with real life head-on, the world on those pages spoke of heroism, bravery and gaining faith in
oneself through pious actions that helped others. It had nothing to do with immature confusion about a changing
body and adolescent concerns of how the world works.

It's just sad that make-believe has become believe.
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At the request of Mystic Wanderer, here's a fine example of two things... media manipulation
and the hoped-for influencing of the dumbed-down public by using a deceitful argument.

Whatever the preferred narrative is, those on platforms to deliver their one-sided opinions
believe that their viewers/readers accept will not perceive the obvious chicanery.
It's small-minded, schoolyard outrage, Jerry Springer used to do it years ago and it's called
entertainment.

The obvious narcissism of the subjects are used by CNN to maintain the divisiveness of the
masses. This network is basically the a propaganda outlet, a funded group to assist a preferred
political party and broadcast biased information.

Governments will never get it correct for everybody and with the assistance of managing
trigger-words, speaking over each other to imply intrigue and subtle camera positioning,
many of the mainstream medias won't acknowledge that their failing ratings are due to to
entering the arena of entertainment.

Advertising themselves as bastions of the truth and yet -offering false and misleading information,
they can be accused of being 'the enemy of the people'. But remember, many of the presenters
do it just to pay their bills, they don't care about what they broadcast and neither should you.

Governments come and go, but these guys will always need your eyes or be out of work.
Hence they bombard their customers with figures that the MSM believe are victims of being alive.
These known are the 'good' people.

The presumed -and constantly proclaimed villains are Nazis, the Klu-Klux Clan and any male with
white skin. A narrative that would look fine in one of Stan Lee's comics. Which again, shows you
how the media perceive their customers as children who cannot distinguish between reality and
fiction.






Youtube, Google and others are private companies, it would pay a person to realise that at
some point, these outlets will also fail due to their ever-changing terms of service.
Maybe not in China or other countries where free speech is harnessed, but things will change.

One day, Rogue Nation will called upon to help those lost in the maze of managed-confusion!!
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I can't decide if it's due to the trendy 'Any-Advertising-Is-Good-Advertising' or my red-pill is really kicking in,
but with the BBC trying this latest sh*t, I'm rapidly losing faith and thinking that the television is nothing more
than a dust collector.

'Newsnight' is a late-night programme on the BBC's second-channel BBC2 that was usually confined to the
more refined who enjoyed shows that portrayed upper-middle class folk going about their typical environment.
When I was young, it mainly broadcast English cricket all mid-morning and afternoon, an ideal time to watch
the sport if you worked in the Houses of Parliament!

The programme 'Newsnight' supposedly entertains its viewers with angled commentary about current political
issues and certainly leans left in its values. And maybe the key-word is 'entertain'.


Quote:Did BBC hire a 'fake vicar' to back May's Brexit deal on Newsnight?
Viewers discover guest is actress who has appeared in Star Wars and EastEnders.

*Lynn Hayter appeared on Newsnight on Monday to defend the Brexit agreement
*She appeared sporting a dog collar and fiercely debated five other panellists 
*She has worked as an extra, who performs under her middle name Marina

'The BBC has come under fire after it booked a Star Wars extra who calls herself a pastor through an
agency for a Brexit discussion. The broadcaster denied hiring a 'fake vicar' to appear on its flagship
political programme after social media users hit out at the BBC.

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A female Vicar...? Really!

Lynn Hayter appeared on Newsnight on Monday to defend Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit
withdrawal agreement on the UK leaving the European Union.
Today she angrily denied she had been paid by the BBC as she spoke to MailOnline outside her home.

She said: 'I was not paid by the BBC . They did not pay me. I was contacted by an independent organisation
and asked to appear.I have nothing more to say'

Hayter, who was dressed in a bright red tracksuit, was pulled inside her North West London home by a friend.
Neighbours said they knew Hayter was an actress but were not aware she was a pastor or wore a dog collar.
'That is news to me' said one neighbour. We all knew she was an actress. She is very friendly and has talked
about her work.' 

Miss Hayter is listed as a pastor on Facebook at a group called Seeds for Wealth Ministries, which claims
to 'help you realise, release and walk into your financial freedom in Christ'.
But she has also worked as an on-screen extra, and has a profile listing her profession as 'actor' on the social
media site.

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The actress (pictured in character) has not only appeared in Star Wars but also EastEnders,
which led viewers to believe that she was a plant.

When she launched Seeds for Wealth in a YouTube video, she hinted that she has been involved in ministry before.
'I'm going back into ministry -the lord has called me back,' she said. 'God's put a message on my heart hes
equipped me and I'm going for it.'

But she does not mention if anybody has ordained her, nor does she appear to have an actual church as she
petitions viewers to invite her to talk.

'I have been called to unlock the seeds that are in each and every one of us and in doing so that will take you to
a higher level that will release you into your financial freedom,' she says. 'Your'e going to have to invite me to
your church to have me preach.' 

She claims to have been 'endorsed' by American evangelist Mike Murdock from The Wisdom Centre, calling him
her 'pastor and mentor' and tweeting a certificate he awarded her after she took part of his Jerusalem Project.
She tweeted a picture of Murdock's Mind Bible book, which he sells as part of a $99 'Ministry 6 PAK'.  

Other pictures on her Twitter profile show the pair meeting and social media shows that she has been to his
events in the US and also seen him when he has visited London. 
In the video online she invites people to send her Christian-themed items to sell on her Seeds for Wealth
store on Amazon.

Miss Hayter, who performs under her middle name Marina, recently appeared in the blockbuster film Star Wars
Episode VII: The Force Awakens. This has led to accusations that the BBC hired her specifically to appear on
the show playing the part of a vicar.

The argument was dubbed 'Vicargate', with some on social media convinced she was acting.
Labour peer Andrew Adonis waded into the furore, telling his Twitter followers he believed Miss Hayter to be a fake.

He sarcastically commented 'Lynn is a pastor' and I am the Pope', before calling her a 'fake pastor' and accusing
the BBC of 'a reign of lies'. Miss Maitlis [Show's Host] quickly reprimanded Lord Adonis, warning him 'not to become
a peddler
of fake news'.

She tweeted: 'Not in this day and age. Not when we need our parliamentarians to be better and more trusted than ever.
'To have got to a place where you could choose to believe that enough to write it is deeply worrying.'

Other users were keen to chime in with the debate, with one '@BrexitBin' tweeting: 'WTF!
This lady playing 'Reverend Lynn' is actually an actress called Marina Hayter (stage name?)
who is a professional TV talk show guest. In other words, she was hired by @BBCNewsnight
to say she backed May's plan. This kind of undemocratic deception has to have consequences!'

This is while Antonia Frances said: 'Reverend Lynn' is in fact Marina Hayter. She has played numerous roles including
Peasant Woman, quizzical librarian and shocked neighbour but no vicars until her starring role as Brexit deal fan girl
on #Newsnight #BBC #BrexitAgreement.'

Others such as Beth Urmston poked fun at 'Vicargate' and said:
'Think Marina Lynn Hayter's days at the BBC are numbered. Pastor sell by date.'  

Elsewhere others said the BBC had 'struck gold' when they found Lynn, '@benjolly9' said:
'The @BBCNewsnight research team who set out to find an actor willing to play a Vicar 
o sing the praises of Theresa May must have thought they'd stuck gold when they found
@LynnHayter.'

As the speculation mounted, Newsnight itself was prompted to defend the decision to include her on the show.
Their statement read: 'Claims that Lynn appeared on Newsnight as a paid actor are false.
'Lynn is a pastor and was a genuine participant of our Brexit debate. She carries out work as an extra using her
middle name but this is not relevant to the capacity in which she appeared.'

Seeds For Wealth Ministries, which had 72 followers on Facebook as of last night, believes it can enrich
worshippers and take them to 'a higher level'. Miss Hayter told presenter Emily Maitlis she was '100per cent'
behind the deal and urged the public to 'put [their] faith in the government'.

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She stridently defended the withdrawal agreement when quizzed by her fellow panellists.
Miss Hayter has also appeared in BBC shows EastEnders and Dickensian, among dozens more...'
DailyMail:


Like others in the comment section of The Daily Mail, I questioned her gender more than her fake impression
on the BBC  programme! But why would you contact an agency for access to a Vicar?


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She said: 'I was not paid by the BBC . They did not pay me. I was contacted by an independent organisation

and asked to appear.I have nothing more to say'

Im not sure what this means ???
Does it mean that some one payed her to be there and give a POV, was the POV one that was paid for or her own ????
Why would she not tell who the "independent organisation" was.
It seems to me she is LGBTQA ( the A standing for A little b lost )
WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH, THE EU IS FATHER AND MOTHER
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Interesting. So the fake news is trying to control what other countries think of President Trump too.   tinyok

Here is what one person from across the pond had to say on Twitter:


Quote:Omnicentrist ⛔️???‏ @Omnicentrist 8h8 hours ago


See what the Fake News is telling Australians. That is why 99% of People here do not understand Trump or what he is doing for the US. It is an attempt to stop our own Populist Voter uprising. They are saying Trump is accused of Guilt.


Notice this headline: Donald Trump has been tied to a federal crime by prosecutors. Can a president be indicted?

But, once you get into the article, it states, "Although Mr Trump hasn't been charged with anything, the question of whether a president even can be prosecuted while in office is a matter of legal dispute."

If you wish to read this rag, here's the link:  LINK



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