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Moscow says allegation that Russia intervened in US election is just security agency
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'Russia has dismissed U.S. accusations that Moscow intervened in the presidential
election as "infighting" between security agencies.

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U.S. intelligence agencies had concluded with "high confidence" that Moscow interfered
in the Presidential election to aid Donald Trump's campaign and harm the chances of a
potential Hilary Clinton administration.

Russian officials have consistently and fervently denied allegations of interference in the
U.S. election.
"It looks like banal infighting between U.S. security services," Maria Zakharova, Russia's
foreign ministry spokeswoman, wrote in a Facebook post on Tuesday...'
SOURCE:
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'According to a “secret CIA assessment,” Russia intervened in the U.S. election to
undermine confidence in the electoral system and boost support for Donald Trump.

The president-elect has already rejected this notion, though the implications of claims
regarding Russian involvement are still unclear.

Once again, this kind of pro-Clinton/anti-Russian-based narrative has already been
completely debunked. For example, in his recent article, “Anonymous Leaks to the
WashPost About the CIA’s Russia Beliefs Are No Substitute for Evidence,”
Glenn Greenwald brilliantly explains why this story does not merit our attention.

He astutely notes:
“There is still no such evidence for any of these claims.
What we have instead are assertions, disseminated by anonymous people, completely
unaccompanied by any evidence, let alone proof.

As a result, none of the purported evidence — still — can be publicly seen, reviewed,
or discussed. Anonymous claims leaked to newspapers about what the CIA believes
do not constitute proof, and certainly do not constitute reliable evidence that substitutes
for actual evidence that can be reviewed.”...'
SOURCE:

A Hillary Hissy fit or confusion from the media...?


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Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
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(12-14-2016, 02:49 PM)BIAD Wrote: A Hillary Hissy fit or confusion from the media...?

Neither.

Listen carefully to what I am about to say, and mark this date on your calendar in red, because I am about to use a phrase I absolutely detest because of it's over-use and abuse in conspiracy theorist circles...

This. is. A. False. Flag.

This is a classic example, and the very text-book definition of a "false flag". It is the governing entity of one country creating "incidents" and manufacturing "evidence" to be laid at the door of another country with intent to disparage and demonize that target country, or worse. In this case, it appears from all of the actual evidence that the Democrat Party is intent on manufacturing "evidence" in support of it's spurious claims against Russia with a view towards creating tension and potentially sparking war with Russia.

I'm not saying this lightly. I bear no love towards Russians, and in fact have shot my fair share of them. As they say, "that was then and this is now", and NOW, Russia is getting a bum rap from the Democrat Party, and Intel agencies have been directed by the Executive Branch of the US government (currently owned and operated by "Progressives", an extremist wing of said party) to manufacture "evidence" to support that rap. The Russians are not guilty in this case. If they were, I'd be leading the charge against them.

"Why on Earth would they do that?" one might ask. Initially, it was to foment tension against Russia to bring pressure to bear on them to stop killing Obama and Hillary's pet Muslims in ISIS, and to get with the program of ousting Assad, who has never, EVER, done anything against Americans... but the Progressives NEED ISIS - and Assad, with Russian help, is mucking up all their best laid plans. Now, since the Progressives have also lost the election, and the power that goes with that, they are in a panic, and intend to wrest that power back, using an already tarred scapegoat. It's a "two-fer" for them, and they are ramping up the steam.

Right now, Russia, Assad, and even Iran are the ONLY people on this planet fighting for OUR freedom, and that is goddamned bass-ackwards. THEY are the ones eliminating ISIS, and our own damned government is only putting on a token show of doing so to maintain an artificial narrative, all the while furiously trying to figure out a way to save their babies. For example, they are directing ISIS operatives to kill civilians in places like Aleppo, so they can blame it on Russia. problem is, those killings are being carried out with classic ISIS signatures, and not Russian or Syrian government signatures at all.

Here on the Home front, I saw Dumbass Diane Feinstein on TV this evening, on CNN (the Communist News Network, or Clinton News Network if one prefers) lamenting the fact that the government won't release any "intelligence" on the subject to "prove" their case to the American people. They can declassify that shit in a heartbeat - ask Mr. G. if it ain't so. What Dumbass Diane is doing is buying time for "evidence" to be manufactured - then that manufactured evidence WILL be "declassified" and released. But they've got to make it up first, and they're trying to make sure it's iron clad, with no loose ends that will get them busted cold by coming unraveled. That takes time and brainstorming.

Folks may recall that Ms. Feinstein is famous for not even knowing what in the hell a barrel shroud is - she said on national TV that it was "that thing that goes over your shoulder". How in the hell she ever got to even sit on an intelligence committee, much less chair one, mystifies me. Not really - I've no doubt that several progressive had a hand in that appointment with some back room dealings. Come at me - I at least know what a barrel shroud is, I know which end wags and which end bites.

She also declared that Russian intent was to call into question our very election process. That had to be fed to her - she ain't got the smarts to come up with that stroke of genius all on her own. JUST THE ACCUSATIONS - which are entirely being manufactured and marketed by the Progressives, and the Progressives ALONE, are what is calling that process into question. They are, in fact, doing the VERY THING they are accusing Russia of doing (calling the election process into question because they lost, and undermining confidence in it), and making up the "evidence" to "prove" their case as they go along.

War is coming to America, I have no doubt at all. Whether external, manufactured and spun up by the Hillaryites, or whether internal - but more than likely BOTH - it IS coming. I also have no illusions that I won't die in it. I'm not as young as I once was, and am now too old to keep up for long. My only consolation is to take as many of the opposition with me as I can, and to know I will go to Valhalla (or wherever) having fought for the right side all my days.

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To whom it may concern, just in case you're reading:

I spotted the watchers last week, twice. If you're gonna come at me, you'd better hide them better than that. They were sitting ducks. I've got no urge to combat you, but if you give me that urge by throwing down, I have no intention of dying alone. Just leave me be, and we'll all die old, fat, sassy, and happy.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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Yep .... Ninurta right on the money about it ......  

Heh ...... ya playing nice these days Ninurta ....... 
If had watchers show up over here ....... would have fun messing with their heads ........ then kitty would get a nice lunch .......  since kitty ate all my chickens while I was off elsewhere ......
Better to reign in hell ....
  than serve in heaven .....



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(12-16-2016, 10:14 AM)Ninurta Wrote:
(12-14-2016, 02:49 PM)BIAD Wrote: A Hillary Hissy fit or confusion from the media...?

Neither.

Listen carefully to what I am about to say, and mark this date on your calendar in red,
because I am about to use a phrase I absolutely detest because of it's over-use and abuse
n conspiracy theorist circles...

This. is. A. False. Flag...
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To whom it may concern, just in case you're reading:

I spotted the watchers last week, twice.
If you're gonna come at me, you'd better hide them better than that. They were sitting ducks.
I've got no urge to combat you, but if you give me that urge by throwing down, I have no
intention of dying alone. Just leave me be, and we'll all die old, fat, sassy, and happy.

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I never once doubted it.
Simplicity demands that if one side is doing all the talking -and they are allowed to continue
to do the talking, that same side is doing all the nurturing of the presumed problem.

The simple fact that western mainstream media offers Russia's response to all this hacking with
a mere shrug, shows their concern of supposedly being 'outed'.

This in-house babble of 'who dun' it' makes me recall this dated video of Yuri Bezemenov, except
that it seems that it's the different sections of political parties within the US system that are using
it!



In regards of the last part of your answer, I just pray it doesn't come to that.
Keep safe, my friend.
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
#5
Bravo @"Ninurta"!  You hit the bulls-eye with what you said.  minusculegoodjob

I wish we could get more people to wake up to the truth, but unfortunately, we have these things called fluoride, chemtrail chemicals, and sound waves emitted through the air that have so many people brain-washed, they wouldn't know the truth if it walked up and slapped them in the face! smallnotamused 

I am still holding out hope that together, with our mass consciousness, we can avoid a WWIII.  I'm not saying people have to live in rainbows and la-la land, but if everyone lets go of all the fear and thoughts of hating others, we can do it.  WE have the power to make our future what WE choose... together.  The mind is a powerful, powerful thing!
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(12-16-2016, 11:09 AM)Daitengu Wrote: Yep .... Ninurta right on the money about it ......  

Heh ...... ya playing nice these days Ninurta ....... 
If had watchers show up over here ....... would have fun messing with their heads ........ then kitty would get a nice lunch .......  since kitty ate all my chickens while I was off elsewhere ......

Regarding the watchers, it's not as easy for them as it once was, due to my change in location and circumstances. Can't just park across the street for a couple days any more, as it would draw too much attention and be out of place. Here, and now, if it were me, I'd just drop them in the woods with hunting rifles and pass them off as hunters, but that's not the route taken. As far as I could tell they were unarmed, which is a good sign, so there might be a method to the madness. No firearms to ramp things up can't be a bad thing. The only thing making it unusual is timing - once upon a time, it was about once a year, and just long enough to make sure I was playing nice... but last week makes it twice this year, so I have to wonder why. I'm not doing anything that any average harmless old man wouldn't do (and really quite a bit less than the average harmless old man around here WOULD do), so the intensified curiosity puts questions in my mind - what's drawing the extra attention?

There is always a reason for everything, and I'd like to know the reason here. They could just come to the door for a beer  or a cup of coffee to check things out, and I wouldn't mind... but now they'd have to answer a couple of MY questions which perhaps they can not or will not.

No matter, I suppose. As long as they just look and book, we're all happy.
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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(12-16-2016, 11:37 AM)BIAD Wrote: I never once doubted it.
Simplicity demands that if one side is doing all the talking -and they are allowed to continue
to do the talking, that same side is doing all the nurturing of the presumed problem.

The simple fact that western mainstream media offers Russia's response to all this hacking with
a mere shrug, shows their concern of supposedly being 'outed'.

This in-house babble of 'who dun' it' makes me recall this dated video of Yuri Bezemenov, except
that it seems that it's the different sections of political parties within the US system that are using
it!



In regards of the last part of your answer, I just pray it doesn't come to that.
Keep safe, my friend.

Yuri Bezmenov is a little dated - as I recall, he was active in the late 70's and early 80's - but he's not wrong. What has happened, it appears to me, is that certain elements have taken to old Soviet playbook and ran with it since the Soviet union collapsed. As far as I'm concerned, it's still the same game, just the players have changed... the rule book is still the same...

... and the shoe is on the other foot now. It's still the same shoe, though.
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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I spent a bit of time through my day thinking on this matter, as it's a bit worrying. I've come up with something else that may explain a bit more my thought processes on what is going on.

Years ago, before most modern kids can recall, we WERE at war with the Soviet Union. True enough, it was called a "Cold War", but lemme tell ya, it wasn't always that cold. Some times, it got downright warm. Note well what I said there - The Soviet Union... not "Russia". The problem is, at the time the two were synonymous in the minds of most, and the terms were used interchangeably.

Now, the Progressives are putting that confusion to use, and declaring RUSSIA to be what Reagan termed "The Evil Empire" - but HE was referring to The Soviet Union as well, not necessarily Russia. It was the Soviets we put on the run, the evidence being that Russia is still there, and the Soviets have dispersed away from her. Russia is no longer the Soviet Union. The two terms are no longer interchangeable, but the Progressives are trying to muddy the waters and keep that confusion afloat.

Here's where it gets interesting to me:

What are nowadays called "Progressives" in America are none other than what we would have called "Soviets" in Russia all those many years ago. We booted their sorry asses out of Russia as a result of the Cold War, and since they had nowhere else to alight, they re-branded themselves and are attempting to take over America, their old enemy. For evidence, do some research on how the Soviets acted, and then compare them with the Progressives. Same-same. Item: the US (Progressive) interference in Libya, Syria, Egypt, and Iraq trying to make "friendly" countries out of them by installing Muslim Brotherhood governments - since when is the Muslim Brotherhood "friendly"? Yet there they were, trying desperately to install them in power in those countries... just like the Soviets of old. Yet in Syria, RUSSIA is the boots on the ground fighting them, while the US is engaging in behind the scenes manipulations supporting them. Think back to Vietnam, switch the roles, and see the similarities.

What the Progressives are doing now is a bit of sleight of hand. They are attempting to redirect ire at RUSSIA by enhancing the old Cold War confusion, effectively pointing at Russia and saying "oh lookey - Soviets! They coming to get ya!" to direct attention away from themselves, the heirs of the actual Soviet legacy. The Cold War never actually ended, it just changed venues when no one was looking, and came to soil our own shores. They are a Fifth Column for the Soviet legacy, they are the enemy within. They are what we were all warned about during the Cold War, and even with that warning, no one saw it coming when we thought the Soviets were vanquished. The Soviets are not "coming to get us", they are already HERE, and actively seeking power, which they have already seized too much of... and they are pointing the finger in another direction to attempt to hide what THEY really are by misdirection, confusion, and fear.

That is why they are now screaming bloody murder, trying to redirect attention away from themselves and claim ownership of being the aggrieved party here. They are not. They are the aggressors. They are playing the same old head games of misdirection while attempting a coup right under our noses, and have a convenient scapegoat in Russia, a scapegoat that was already set up and blurred many years ago... and they are making massive use of that scapegoat.

There is your reason for this current bit of malarkey being hammered home by the Left here in the US. They see themselves losing ground they've gained since the fall of the Soviet Union, and are making a mad scramble to get that ground back because they fear yet another defeat at the hands of Free Men. They are on the run again, but it's a fighting retreat, and they are not going to go down easy. That also explains why it's left to Russia and her allies to fight for OUR freedom while our own government is busy trying to create new Boogie Men to scare us into submission with. Seriously - if we are the greatest power on Earth, how long would it really take to take ISIS down if we actually put some honest effort into it? We beat the piss out of both Germany and Japan in a mere 5 years or so, and then beat them for pissing for years after that. How is a bit player like ISIS still in existence at all when you take that into consideration?

The ONLY possible answer is that we are NOT really trying, and there has got to be a reason for that...

Sorry for the rant. if these electrons on your screen survive what's coming, then some day in the distant future these words may be important. The generation of that time, if it is able to learn from history unlike ours, may have a fighting chance when that time comes if they heed these words.

But that time is apparently not here yet, or we would not be where we are.


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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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@"Ninurta" 
You're correct. Absolutely Correct! Mr.G. said to me you're replies are the perfect analogy of what is going on and he said earlier today, Progressives are nothing more than Socialist like the Old Society Union.
Once A Rogue, Always A Rogue!
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(12-17-2016, 07:18 AM)Ninurta Wrote: ...What the Progressives are doing now is a bit of sleight of hand.
They are attempting to redirect ire at RUSSIA by enhancing the old Cold War confusion, effectively pointing at Russia and saying "oh lookey - Soviets! They coming to get ya!"...'
And it's an ideal candidate. The West see Russia as white and therefore, cannot be called racist or
an Islamophobe.

The Progressives have dug up an old boogieman and are shaking it's ghost in the hope that it can
reinvigorate the assumed fears of the older generations and re-light the naive wished-for concerns
of the young.

You're bang-on the money again, Sir.
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
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In keeping with the holiday season:

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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Bravo again @"Ninurta"   minusculeclap 


No need to worry.  I have printed out your words onto an indestructible material, fished out my safe and stored your words inside.  I then dug a hole in my back yard and buried the safe, and then planted a tree on top to cover up any lead that something important was beneath the ground.

Your words will be found someday in the future by my great-great-great grandchildren (or someone), and it will be like us in this present day finding the Sumerian Tablets that tell us where we came from and what happened afterwards. 

Only, your words will tell them what happened that led to our demise. 

Your words will be safe now Sir!   minusculebeercheers


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