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Amazon Devices Will Soon Automatically Share Your Internet With Neighbors
#1
Everyone with Alexa devices beginning June 8th will be automatically opted in to the new Amazon Sidewalk. What this does is share a slice of your internet signal with anyone near enough to connect to your devices... and vice versa.

I wont even get into how this fits perfectly into the push toward Socialism (those who pay providing free wi-fi for those who don't or wont) or the privacy risks but will go straight into how to opt OUT!


Quote:Fortunately, turning Sidewalk off is relatively painless. It involves:

  1. Opening the Alexa app

  2. Opening More and selecting Settings

  3. Selecting Account Settings

  4. Selecting Amazon Sidewalk

  5. Turning Amazon Sidewalk Off

The entire article for those interested:
LINK 
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#2
Time for everyone to rename their WiFi device to "FBI Honeypot".

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@"GeauxHomeLittleD" 

So those homeless people shitting and pissing on the sidewalk in front of your home can get internet and use Amazon or maybe Huber-=Eats. tinysure

Thank the Gods I don't use any of that stuff like Alexa.
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(05-30-2021, 04:13 PM)guohua Wrote: @"GeauxHomeLittleD" 

So those homeless people shitting and pissing on the sidewalk in front of your home can get internet and use Amazon or maybe Huber-=Eats. tinysure

Thank the Gods I don't use any of that stuff like Alexa.


We do use Alexa for TV and music so I immediately disabled Amazon Sidewalk, but what really ticks me off is that Amazon should have been above board with this instead of sneaking it in by making it a default setting. It seems that a lot of companies are pulling dirty stuff that way these days. I get a headache every time Windows does another update anymore because then I have to figure out what all it turned off this time... usually firewall or antivirus but sometimes it turns off restore points, etc. You just never know. 

Thank goodness we don't have homeless people shitting on the sidewalk out front, but the people too lazy to clean up after their dogs when they walk them make up for the gap in ambiance.
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(05-30-2021, 03:46 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: Everyone with Alexa devices beginning June 8th will be automatically opted in to the new Amazon Sidewalk. What this does is share a slice of your internet signal with anyone near enough to connect to your devices... and vice versa.

I wont even get into how this fits perfectly into the push toward Socialism (those who pay providing free wi-fi for those who don't or wont) or the privacy risks but will go straight into how to opt OUT!


Quote:Fortunately, turning Sidewalk off is relatively painless. It involves:

  1. Opening the Alexa app

  2. Opening More and selecting Settings

  3. Selecting Account Settings

  4. Selecting Amazon Sidewalk

  5. Turning Amazon Sidewalk Off

The entire article for those interested:
LINK 

I think this may be the real start of "The Internet Of Things".

Supposedly for it to work, the way they want it to work, there has to be greater inter connectivity. One of the issues, supposedly, they have with 5G is that the transmitters have to be closer together. So I guess instead of putting a 5g transmitter at each house, they can by-pass that, by just allowing connection to all devices in all the houses.

Just a thought.

I don't have any of those devices, but they don't need Alexa, Ring, or all those other monitoring devices, to keep tabs on everything you do. Almost all electronic devices and all cell phones do a good enough job of that now. They are just trying to make it cheaper for them to do so.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

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#6
(05-31-2021, 03:04 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: I think this may be the real start of "The Internet Of Things".

Supposedly for it to work, the way they want it to work,  there has to be greater inter connectivity. One of the issues, supposedly, they have with 5G is that the transmitters have to be closer together. So I guess instead of putting a 5g transmitter at each house, they can by-pass that, by just allowing connection to all devices in all the houses.

Just a thought.

I don't have any of those devices, but they don't need Alexa, Ring, or all those other monitoring devices, to keep tabs on everything you do. Almost all electronic devices and all cell phones do a good enough job of that now. They are just trying to make it cheaper for them to do so.

If it is about 5g then they are extremely behind the times. China and other countries are already moving on to 6g while a few Scandinavian countries are already implementing 7g from what I've read. From my perspective we really don't need any more connectivity than we already have so it really begs the question "Why?"

Maybe those who think the "vaxxine" is making people magnetic/metallic for the purpose of mind/behavior control using certain frequencies aren't too far off the mark- it certainly worked when tested on rodents! Sounds crazy but the way things have been playing out not as far fetched as it would have been a year ago!

An interesting tidbit: They are now offering 5g internet service for rural residences in some areas. One of my daughters has it. No wires involved, just a 5g receiver that gets internet signal through the air. She is pissed because half of their electronics can't hook up to it because they are 4g (Smart TV, etc.) and not compatible. Ironically Amazon devices will hook up to it- even 3g and 4g devices. I guess old Bezos is smarter than the average bear because he is looking to score a HUGE picnic basket on this! 
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Something is going on out here in our woods also. We see towers going up and solar stations going up, out here in the woods, where there is only a handful of us.

There are gated communities popping up all around us, so I guess they are just laying the groundwork for the inevitable. 

Maybe the interconnectivity would also snare those that are Luddites, or just not interested in connecting.

Anyway, I am willing to bet it is more for their benefit than ours.

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Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#8
(05-30-2021, 03:51 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Time for everyone to rename their WiFi device to "FBI Honeypot".

Cheers

I already renamed mine several years ago to "CIA-2103". No one has to know that is really the serial number of an AR I had stolen from me rather than what it appears to be...

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#9
(05-30-2021, 03:46 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: Everyone with Alexa devices beginning June 8th will be automatically opted in to the new Amazon Sidewalk. What this does is share a slice of your internet signal with anyone near enough to connect to your devices... and vice versa.

I wont even get into how this fits perfectly into the push toward Socialism (those who pay providing free wi-fi for those who don't or wont) or the privacy risks but will go straight into how to opt OUT!


Quote:Fortunately, turning Sidewalk off is relatively painless. It involves:

  1. Opening the Alexa app

  2. Opening More and selecting Settings

  3. Selecting Account Settings

  4. Selecting Amazon Sidewalk

  5. Turning Amazon Sidewalk Off

The entire article for those interested:
LINK 

If you believe that will really turn it off, I have some prime swamp farm land at the southern tip of Florida for sale.

ALL of the Big tech groups are moving towards taking over YOUR computer, so that you pay for it, but they actually own it. That's also what "Windows 10" is all about. Try to turn off "automatic updates" on a Windows 10 machine. Go ahead, just try. let me know how it goes. If you have windows 10, they ALREADY own your computer, and most folks just don't realize it. They can force the install of any software they like, and they can force the UNINSTALL of any software they don't like. I believe as well that whenever you log in to a Windows 10 machine, it has to go through a remote Microsoft server to "approve". to allow you to log in to your OWN computer. That's what the requirement for a Microsoft account is all about in Win10. Microsoft is moving towards "Windows as a Service", so that they control not just what is on "YOUR" computer, but even how you use it. That is what "trusted computing" is all about - not that you can trust your computer, but rather that they can trust you not to use your computer in a manner they disapprove of.

That is also the reason Microsoft is making it more and more difficult to install Linux on brand new computers. the only version of Linux they control is Android, via their Amazon partners.

Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, and all of the big names are in on it together. Microsoft is aiming to control all the world's computers, and the Social Media Services are aiming to control all of the world's speech. Once they have that absolute control, the hands of the People will be tied - or so they believe.

That is not something YOU should believe, however. They only have the control over us that we allow them to have, and if they can convince us that they have absolute control, they they do, defatco, because we believe they do. It all depends on what they can convince us of, as to how much control they will have. Back in the day, bikers had a standard of " one percenters" - that one percent of the population will always act however they damned well please, despite societal controls...

... we all need to get there, and if we don't, new one percenters will always be being born. I know. I've raised a few, and they are now raising their own.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#10
(05-31-2021, 12:54 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: An interesting tidbit: They are now offering 5g internet service for rural residences in some areas. One of my daughters has it. No wires involved, just a 5g receiver that gets internet signal through the air. She is pissed because half of their electronics can't hook up to it because they are 4g (Smart TV, etc.) and not compatible. Ironically Amazon devices will hook up to it- even 3g and 4g devices. I guess old Bezos is smarter than the average bear because he is looking to score a HUGE picnic basket on this! 

It won't work here, but it's a nice thought for them. Too many mountains that block the signals - so a repeater for 5g would have to be in my line of sight to work, and I bet dollars against donuts it wouldn't work long... and they'd never see the bullet or gunman that took it out.

It's a nice idea. I used to have both my wired house phone and internet through "Cleartalk", a service that worked over the air. So, if I ran into trouble, there were no wires outside the house for either phone or internet that they could cut to cut off my communications.

But that was in the flatlands, where signals travel. Not a possibility here. I don't get any cell signal here at all other than the one I generate myself with a network extender... and I control that one... It only reaches about 100 feet or so around the house, not far enough for anyone to take advantage of or use unawares.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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(06-01-2021, 07:09 AM)Ninurta Wrote: It won't work here, but it's a nice thought for them. Too many mountains that block the signals - so a repeater for 5g would have to be in my line of sight to work, and I bet dollars against donuts it wouldn't work long... and they'd never see the bullet or gunman that took it out.

It's a nice idea. I used to have both my wired house phone and internet through "Cleartalk", a service that worked over the air. So, if I ran into trouble, there were no wires outside the house for either phone or internet that they could cut to cut off my communications.

But that was in the flatlands, where signals travel. Not a possibility here. I don't get any cell signal here at all other than the one I generate myself with a network extender... and I control that one... It only reaches about 100 feet or so around the house, not far enough for anyone to take advantage of or use unawares.

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They aren't offering it here yet, but I am sure it is coming.

Nothing is reliable out here. There is no clear line of sight. I can't even see my neighbor's house because of the trees and foliage. Cell service is sketchy. There is no cable, and satellite depends on which way the wind blows.

I have only been out in these woods for a little over twenty years, and reception is better than it was when I first came here, but I live less than five miles from a tower, and phone can't receive a signal. When I look up my area on the signal map, it shows up as a ghost zone. We have gotten used to it, but I am positive it will change soon. I see the handwriting on the wall.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

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#12
@"Ninurta" 

Quote:That is also the reason Microsoft is making it more and more difficult to install Linux on brand new computers. the only version of Linux they control is Android, via their Amazon partners.

Win10 can work with an installation of Ubuntu Linux that MS provides.  I have it on my machine.  The ironic part is that the Linux command line interface is a thousand times faster than any Windows operation.

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(06-01-2021, 07:16 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: @"Ninurta" 

Quote:That is also the reason Microsoft is making it more and more difficult to install Linux on brand new computers. the only version of Linux they control is Android, via their Amazon partners.

Win10 can work with an installation of Ubuntu Linux that MS provides.  I have it on my machine.  The ironic part is that the Linux command line interface is a thousand times faster than any Windows operation.

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I did not know that, but it is good to know - MS appears to be trying to work it's way into the Linux market by gaining a version they control independently, apart from Amazon's Android. I guess if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, and try to seize control of the market. Microsoft's version of an OS for cell phones and the like appears to have flopped, so maybe they are exploring other avenues for monopoly.

I stopped using Ubuntu when they changed their default desktop to that unusable one they have now. You can install a usable one, but why bother with that when there are still viable desktops in other versions of Linux?

I recall not so long ago when the CCP was giving away their own version of Linux, too. It was called "Red Flag Linux". I have an old copy of it here somewhere, but never used it because I couldn't read enough Mandarin to get it installed. Once installed I would have been able to set it to English, but it was the getting it installed that was the sticking point. It seems to have been a flop, and my best guess is that is why. The CCP came out with it when they were at war with Microsoft over piracy issues of Windows that were prevalent in Asia. The desktop mimicked Windows to make it easier to use for folks used to Windows desktops. Now Zorin does that without the CCP spyware.

I have dozens of installers for various operating systems, but have settled on Windows 7 as the last usable version of Windows, and Zorin OS as my go-to version of Linux. I have both installed on this computer as a dual boot system. I bought this computer because it came with Windows 7, and those were rare birds by the time I bought it because Microsoft was pushing Windows 10 so hard. Then I installed Zorin on a separate partition to dual boot it.

I have also been known to use virtual machine systems, where you can run one OS in a virtual machine inside another OS and "sandboxed" from the mother OS, but the dual boot is, in my mind, the way to go. I use virtual machines to test other operating systems, and to provide plausible deniability for some operations - you can set up a virtual machine, do what you gotta do, and then if push comes to shove wipe the virtual machine with a DoD level wipe/shred/erase program, and erase all tracks since they were contained in the virtual machine. You get bonus points if you use a VPN in the virtual machine to bounce traffic around the world and encrypt it, VM's are also handy if you frequently "experiment" with your OS and are prone to break it every now and then - just wipe the old one and build a new one, and you are not locked out of the mother system if, for example, a hacker hits you with some ransomware or a bug.

Years ago, I used to hack computers here and there, and that sort of setup could be useful, but I've not done any of that in years. Nowadays I just use it when I don't think my traffic is anyone's business. I used to set up a virtual machine, salt it down with some interestingly named files to draw hacker's attention, then when they snagged that file and opened it, I owned their machine. I would make a clone of the virtual machine and store it away, air-gapped, from my main computer, so if a hacker got my virtual machine instead, I could be up an running again on the "same" VM computer, minus their hackerware, in minutes.

They are the bomb if you like to beard Indian hacker farms in their den, and lead them around by the nose. If they manage to lock your machine, it's just a virtual one you've set up for the operation, so nothing lost. I also used to use them at work (the company bought VMWare for us for that) to virtually run company software. That setup ran the virtual machine from a remote location, so the machine itself was never actually on your own computer - just a client to access it. That way, the company maintained control of it's own software, and could lock you out of it if you went rogue simply by changing your password and denying access. It also made it easier for the company to track your activity, since they controlled your virtual machine. They did mess up a bit by using a third party vendor for our e-mail. They couldn't rifle through that e-mail like most companies do, and I still have my  work e-mail account from them years later, because they didn't even have access to delete it.

This "internet of things" is a scary concept, to me. I don't want a far away corporation keeping track of whether I'm out of beer because they monitor my refrigerator. That ain't their concern unless they are buying my beer for me, and need to know when I'm low on it so they can have an Amazon drone drop off another case. Likewise for Alexa and the other various "virtual assistants". What they monitor ain't none of their business. That same job that used the remote virtual machines also made use of "Skype" for meetings. When Microsoft bought out Skype and force installed their "virtual assistant" to monitor meetings, I ranted and raved and told to company they were nuts for still using it, since that is a setup for easy corporate espionage, but none of the dumbasses listened. You couldn't "turn off" Cortana in it, so the program just sat there and swept up EVERYTHING going through Skype. That company (Frontier Communications) watched their stock drop from 87 dollars a share down to, last time I checked, around fifty cents a share.

Cell phones spy on us too. I had one that used to turn it's own mic on randomly and just sit listening to me, and everyone else in the room. I "de-googled" that phone, and it stopped that nonsense. I didn't just turn off the offending programs, I uninstalled them. They can't remotely turn on a program that is no longer there to be turned on. However, "de-googling" Alexa is an impossibility. if you de-google it, you just have an expensive paperweight, so why bother getting one at all?

Bottom line is that if you don't invite government - or increasingly their corporate "partners" - into your house to monitor you, they have a much tougher time getting it done.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#14
Here is the Bull-Shit Lie Amazon is telling the People.

Quote:“Amazon Sidewalk is a shared network that helps devices work better,” the company said in a Q&A document for users
Do you really believe they are in the business of Helping others?  tinysure

Quote:Amazon customers have one week to opt out of a plan that would turn every Echo speaker and Ring security camera in the US into a shared wireless network, as part of the company’s plan to fix connection problems for its smart home devices.

The proposal, called Amazon Sidewalk, involves the company’s devices being used as a springboard to build city-wide “mesh networks” that help simplify the process of setting up new devices, keep them online even if they’re out of range of home wifi, and extend the range of tracking devices such as those made by Tile. 
Quote:But Sidewalk has come under fire for the apparent lack of transparency with which Amazon has rolled out the feature, as well as the limited time available for users to complete the tricky process required to opt out. Other critics have expressed concerns that failing to turn the setting off could leave customers in breach of their internet service provider’s terms and conditions.
Source

Basically they are saying, if you're away from your own WiFi and to stay connected you will automatically be Paired with someone else WiFi and both your Data/information is visible to them and I would think to the other person you are sharing the connection with. Am I Wrong? 

Is this what you want to Stay Connected?
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#15
The proper way to handle this would be to default to "opt out", and force people who want to opt-in to expressly do so. Amazon has got this bass ackwards from the consumer point of view. They do, however, apparently have it right from the "I wanna take over the world" point of view...

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#16
For those interested.  A Ubuntu Linux window running on my PC under Windows 10.  It doesn't take up the full screen.

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#17
What the...?

So people, who like to talk about subjects which are covered on a forum like this, actually use windows?

So you do not trust Bill Gates with the "vaccine" but you trust him with every single thing you do with your computer?

Really, REALLY missing the logic here...
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(06-03-2021, 11:04 AM)Finspiracy Wrote: What the...?

So people, who like to talk about subjects which are covered on a forum like this, actually use windows?

So you do not trust Bill Gates with the "vaccine" but you trust him with every single thing you do with your computer?

Really, REALLY missing the logic here...

It goes like this.

One does not buy a computer or an OS because of its brand name.  One buys them because they run APPLICATIONS that are useful.

Linux, as an example, has come a long way, but some things just run better in their native environment.

As an aside, no, I don't trust Gates.  His software is nothing special, either, but it does have the advantage of being practically omnipresent.

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(06-03-2021, 10:36 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: For those interested.  A Ubuntu Linux window running on my PC under Windows 10.  It doesn't take up the full screen.

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Cheers

You use terminal? That makes you a wizard. Or a ninja. I never figured out the terminal, commands there and so on... Ubuntu here also. I use the graphical user interface. Here is how it looks like:

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#20
@"Finspiracy" 

Quote:That makes you a wizard.

Faded Anachronism.

Your Linux system can perform wonders of data processing, but it takes using a terminal window.  Command line interface is also probably needed for a lot of sys admin tasks as well.  But if you aren't doing that kind of thing, then, yeah, they're old guard stuff.

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