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Second Amendment Sanctuary Counties
#21
My husband and I have the must Fun when during Summer School Break at the Tourist Trap Locations here in Arizona.
The people from California and Oregon and Washington State come to Sedona, Flagstaff and Tombstone in Old Tucson.
We will take a week or two and travel and camp then walk the street and visit the shops with my PT-99 on my right hip and my SCCY 380 strap to my left ankle and my husband has his old trusty 1911 45 and his very old Lama 380. 
It is GREAT FUN watching the Liberals FREAK-OUT!!!! 
Running the the store manager or calling 911 on the street crying and pointing yelling at the 911 operator  smallroflmao who has to be telling these Snowflakes that this is Arizona, if we aren't threatening someone, then there is NO CRIME!

My husband had one 30ish year old ask him Why in the day and age would anyone be armed?
My Dear Husband replied, "To protect YOUR Dumb Ass, Now Crawl Away From Me!"
This Idiot actually started to Puff Up His Skinny Vegan Chest,,,,, but look UP at my husband and waked away.  smallroflmao

Trust me when I say, we are not the only Arizonans walking around armed, many here enjoy this Sport!  minusculebeercheers
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#22
Sounds like fun to me!   tinylaughing 


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#23
(12-08-2019, 05:09 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:
Sounds like fun to me!   tinylaughing 


minusculecheers  

It IS!!!!   smallgreenbananadancer
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#24
As of 6pm this evening, nearly 60 localities in Virginia have declared themselves "Second Amendment Sanctuaries", The Socialists have noticed, and are now pushing the narrative that these declarations are "purely symbolic". They seem not to comprehend that what they call "symbolic" can translate to several thousand very solid rounds downrange in an instant if they attempt to enforce their lunacy on the rest of us.

After all, the Declaration of Independence was "purely symbolic"... until the rubber met the road and shit got real.

While the battle rages for the Second Amendment, few are noticing other, equally worrying, signs that the Socialists intend to run roughshod over the rest of us. For example, proposed SB64, to be considered during the same legislative session, is worded such that if I were to teach my wife or child to physically defend themselves against a physical attack, I would be guilty of a felony, of "paramilitary activity". Too late, ya bastards - I already taught 'em, and will continue to do so despite your most misguided efforts. The right to self defense is a natural law in the purest sense - no sentient organism will fail to defend it's own life by any means necessary to overcome the threat. As a natural law, it's beyond the Socialist's ability to legislate out of existence.

They can all kiss my ass. I well and truly would rather die than live in their world where criminals can do as they please to any and all victims they may encounter with impunity.

My willingness to die (and I appear not to be alone in that) rather than submit to their boot on my neck may run head first into their "symbolism", and when cold hard SOLID reality runs into a mere symbol, I wonder which comes out the other side?

I told one that just the other day. I made it clear that it was not about guns, it was about dumbasses thinking it was ok to put their boot on my neck and take whatever they wanted of MY property. Oddly, I got no answer to that statement.

The parallels between this situation in Virginia and the gathering storm clouds just before the American Revolution are striking. Now, just as then, they are trying to criminalize anything at all that works in support of Liberty. And now, just as then, what Benjamin Franklin said of the situation is true - "We must all hang together, or we will surely all hang separately."

ETA: I've also used the past several days doing a "Red Team" analysis of how it is likely to go. After assessing everything they could possibly throw at us, up to and including the US Army (which I think would be unlikely, but possible), as opposed to everything we can throw back, I've concluded that they don't have a snowball's chance in hell IF we all stick together and don't wuss out. I expect the desertion rate from any military called in would be between 50 and 60 percent, many of whom, perhaps the majority, would defect to the very people they've sworn to protect, in defense of the Constitution they've sworn to defend against all enemies both foreign and domestic. Those defectors, together with the original civilians, would be a force to be reckoned with... and the US doesn't have the force to reckon with them, much less just the State of Virginia.

The Virginia State Police has a total force of about 2300 souls. Just about any ONE of the Sanctuary counties could muster at least that many guns, even if the VSP brought ALL of their personnel to any one place. That would of course leave the rest of the state wide open except for the local cops, many of whom have already sworn to stand with their people, and refuse to enforce illegal laws.

That means that VA would have to call in some bigger guns of the military sort (probably national Guard)... and then the defections begin. The problematic cities could be buttoned up fairly easily, with the most problematic being DC itself - that one would be better left alone, so as not to give the Feds an excuse to enter the fray, and keep the fight within Virginia.

While doing this assessment I found that I must be living amongst a troublesome folk. The State Police only have two tactical teams in the entire state, and BOTH of them are based west of the Blue Ridge, in these here mountains, amongst us troublesome folk. I've already had to deal with one of those teams once, and found them to be reasonable men, so I'm not overly worried about them.


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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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#26



Gonna check and see if this post works.
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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(12-12-2019, 07:17 AM)Ninurta Wrote:


Gonna check and see if this post works.

Isn't that the last sight many of the hikers see when they trespass on your land?!!
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#28
(12-12-2019, 10:43 AM)BIAD Wrote:
(12-12-2019, 07:17 AM)Ninurta Wrote:


Gonna check and see if this post works.

Isn't that the last sight many of the hikers see when they trespass on your land?!!
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Only if they are Not Totally Dead when Thrown in the Hole on their Back!  smallroflmao
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#29
Someone needs to alert President Trump to this. He promised he wouldn't allow our 2nd amendment rights to be violated.


Quote:'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution, National Guard deployment if police don't enforce gun control

Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill say local police who do not enforce gun control measures likely to pass in Virginia should face prosecution and even threats of the National Guard.

After November's Virginia Legislature elections that led to Democrats taking control of both chambers, the gun control legislation proposed by some Democrats moved forward, including universal background checks, an “assault weapons” ban, and a red flag law.

Legal firearm owners in the state, however, joined with their sheriffs to form Second Amendment sanctuary counties, which declare the authorities in these municipalities uphold the Second Amendment in the face of any gun control measure passed by Richmond.

Over 75 counties in Virginia have so far adopted such Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions in the commonwealth, the latest being Spotsylvania County. The board of supervisors voted unanimously to approve a resolution declaring that county police will not enforce state-level gun laws that violate Second Amendment rights.

Virginia Democratic officials, however, already say local law enforcement supporting these resolutions will face consequences if they do not carry out any law the state Legislature passes.

“I would hope they either resign in good conscience, because they cannot uphold the law which they are sworn to uphold, or they're prosecuted for failure to fulfill their oath,” Democratic Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly told the Washington Examiner of local county police who may refuse to enforce future gun control measures. “The law is the law. If that becomes the law, you don't have a choice, not if you're a sworn officer of the law.”

There's more. Read it here: Source
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(12-12-2019, 10:43 AM)BIAD Wrote:
(12-12-2019, 07:17 AM)Ninurta Wrote:


Gonna check and see if this post works.

Isn't that the last sight many of the hikers see when they trespass on your land?!!
tinybiggrin

So... it worked? I'm getting nothing but a black post here, but your response seems to indicate that the video may be showing for you.
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


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(12-12-2019, 11:24 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Someone needs to alert President Trump to this. He promised he wouldn't allow our 2nd amendment rights to be violated.


Quote:'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution, National Guard deployment if police don't enforce gun control

Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill say local police who do not enforce gun control measures likely to pass in Virginia should face prosecution and even threats of the National Guard.

After November's Virginia Legislature elections that led to Democrats taking control of both chambers, the gun control legislation proposed by some Democrats moved forward, including universal background checks, an “assault weapons” ban, and a red flag law.

Legal firearm owners in the state, however, joined with their sheriffs to form Second Amendment sanctuary counties, which declare the authorities in these municipalities uphold the Second Amendment in the face of any gun control measure passed by Richmond.

Over 75 counties in Virginia have so far adopted such Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions in the commonwealth, the latest being Spotsylvania County. The board of supervisors voted unanimously to approve a resolution declaring that county police will not enforce state-level gun laws that violate Second Amendment rights.

Virginia Democratic officials, however, already say local law enforcement supporting these resolutions will face consequences if they do not carry out any law the state Legislature passes.

“I would hope they either resign in good conscience, because they cannot uphold the law which they are sworn to uphold, or they're prosecuted for failure to fulfill their oath,” Democratic Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly told the Washington Examiner of local county police who may refuse to enforce future gun control measures. “The law is the law. If that becomes the law, you don't have a choice, not if you're a sworn officer of the law.”

There's more. Read it here: Source

That right there is how wars get started.

The enemy is looking at the map of Sanctuary Locations in Virginia, how it grows by the day, and panicking. In their panic, they are threatening dire consequences if we don't bow down far enough for them to set their jackboots on our necks. Their thought process is "Jesus Christ! They're not laying down to take it! What are we gonna do NOW, to avoid gettin' bent over the barrel ourselves?!?"

There are some problems with their rational thinking. Problems like it ain't there.

We all saw that here last night. The consensus is that there are a lot of us who have faced the fire before, and folks bringing guns at us ain't nothing new - it's not our first rodeo... and we are far less likely to panic. Furthermore, we understand how that's going to go for the Socialists. between 50 and 60 percent of their "expeditionary force" will recall their oaths, and will desert to our side, strengthening our numbers and weakening theirs.

They can do that if they like...

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#32
It doesn't stop at gun confiscation, either. Now there is a prefiled bill for consideration during the next legislative session that puts a "Green New Deal" in place, and will devastate the grid in general, and communities in particular, and throw our ability to use electricity back to the 19th century. A secondary consequence will be the utter devastation of the Virginia economy.

Interesting times we are living in...

There is a Second Amendment rally out in town tomorrow evening, and I'm considering handing out the Rogue nation URL to firstly drum up support for RN there, and secondarily provide a communication conduit should facebook start censoring (which I expect them to do any day now - YouTube has already started). That's if I can manage to even get out to it - my jeep is down for the moment.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#33
Support and offers of assistance rolling in from other states now - I believe this gentleman lives just across the border in Kentucky:




What I would like to see is for West Virginia to make a statement that if Virginia deploys it's NG against it's own citizens, then WV will send in THEIR NG... but part of the WVNG is the 19th SFG, and we all know that Special Forces does not announce it's intent, it just quietly drops in and starts training and supporting guerrillas. that's why they call them "The Quiet Professionals".

There's some food for thought, ya bastard Socialists in the General Assembly! Ya'll CANNOT push hard enough to win this, and the harder you try, the deeper you dig! 

Also, I floated the idea of a letter writing campaign last night, and it seems to have been picked up on. All we have to do is convince a handful of the folks in Richmond that a vote against this lunacy is in their best political interest, and that THEIR vote in favor of it will see us organize, mobilize, and make it our life's mission to see them, personally, out of office to never ever return to the political arena, that it will be the absolute end of their political careers, and that an unemployment line will be in their foreseeable future. Just a few is all it takes to defeat it, and then we can deal with the Socialists at our leisure, once their teeth are pulled. Should they attempt any sort of voice vote or anything other than a roll call vote to make sure the affirmatives are on the record, we will simply fire the whole damned bunch to make sure we get the right ones, and start out from scratch with an entirely new General Assembly.



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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#34
It all seems to be getting a little too real, I hope it sorts out with out a war
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(12-13-2019, 09:33 AM)Wallfire Wrote: It all seems to be getting a little too real, I hope it sorts out with out a war

That's the objective. It's a three-pronged strategy to get it done without a war. We will do everything in our power to resolve it without war, just as the original colonists did when the Crown sent men with guns to take THEIR means of defense.

It's only when that process breaks down and fails to redress our grievances, when our protestations fall on deaf ears, that the knives come out. We will be as reasonable as they allow in preserving our rights and freedom. If the government will not allow it, and proceed with their plans to enslave Virginia...

... well, then they get what they get, and the responsibility for it is entirely on them. We will have tried everything else possible to prevent a war.


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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#36
Lordy! Someone poked my brother in the ribs and told him what is going on in Virginia (he doesn't live here). He's mean, not all warm and fuzzy like me! This just gets better and better...

My brother posted to following to Gov'ner Northam:

Quote:Hey little Hitler, if a so-called law violates the Constitution, it is not fricking legal. No matter what you threaten the Virginia National Guard is not your personal Gestapo either.

My brother is actual military, not a mere contractor such as myself. He's a Marine, and has a firm grasp on the oath required to be sworn when entering the military.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#37
Attorney Tim Anderson. from Virginia Beach, is going to start a recall petition for Senator Saslaw in the 35th Congressional district in VA. Saslaw is the fine young gentleman who called for deployment of the National Guard to enforce the gun confiscation. He has thrown the state into a panic, and Anderson intends to call him on that, and hold him to account. He will be at the Fairfax County courthouse at 6:30 PM this coming Sunday to try and get 4000 signature on the petition to recall Saslaw - who has already attempted the "I was just kidding" defense. Nice try, no cigar.


Here is my attempt to post his video - it may not work, as Facebook has gotten inexplicably wonky in regards to this situation:





Here is a link - it may not work, either, due to the inexplicable wonkiness aforementioned:



https://www.facebook.com/virginialawoffi...394611129/


The upshot is that Anderson intends to hold Saslaw to account for his reckless disregard of Public Safety in calling for the deployment of the National Guard against the citizens of Virginia. That call has created a panic in VA, and has brought us to the brink of war against the Commonwealth. Anderson has heard with his own ears  citizen after citizen state that they will resort to arms if this goes through, and has heard Saslaw threaten those citizens with military action in retaliation.

Anderson is the voice of reason in all of this, but reason is not heard over the din of threats, and he has had enough. It's a damned shame Facebook seems to not want this voice of reason to get out, and I have to wonder why that is.

I am NOT reasonable, and will leave it at that other than to say I will fuck some folks' entire world up if I find it necessary, until they manage to get me dropped dead. One can only hope reason will prevail, but it's a lot less likely to if Facebook is not willing to let the voice of reason speak. A lot of folks might die to protect Saslaw's office otherwise.


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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#38
It seems that once again the USA is leading the fight to save the world. Here in Finland there seems to be a feeling of "hate" bubbling just out of sight. Every one knows what is going on but the news never reports it.     There is an old thing here, dont report it and it does not exist.
All is well dont worry.
The people see it and are voting with there feet , the biggest party here are the True Finns, the left/ socialist call them extreme right but they are not.
Looking at other places in Europe its getting closer to kick off time, one thing is sure, if it kicks off in the US, Europe will follow

PS the video seems to be blocked
#39
They're just asking for trouble.



Quote:VIRGINIA STATE REPRESENTATIVE SUGGESTS NATIONAL GUARD BE CALLED TO FORCE
ENFORCEMENT OF NEW GUN LEGISLATION.

'Virginia representative Donald McEachin suggested Wednesday that Governor Ralph Northam may
have to call out the National Guard to enforce the stricter gun laws Northam wants to pass.

Northam brought up the new laws after more than 70 places in Virginia plan on declaring themselves
Second Amendment Sanctuaries. In Second Amendment Sanctuaries, cities have the option of not
using public funds to enforce laws that could restrict the gun rights of residents.

"If we have constitutional laws on the books and law enforcement officers are not enforcing those laws
on the books then there are going to be some consequences, but I'll cross that bridge if and when we
get to it," Northam said, according to WSET.

Newsweek reached out to Governor Northam's office for comment but did not receive a response in
time for publication. McEachin commented on Northam's statement saying military force may have to
be utilized to make sure gun laws are enforced.

"I'm not the governor," McEachin said, "but the governor may have to nationalize the National Guard to
enforce the law. That's his call, because I don't know how serious these counties are and how server
the violations of law will be. But that's obviously an option he has."

McEachin also suggested removing state funding from areas that do not comply with Northam's gun laws.
"They certainly risk funding, because if the sheriff's department is not going to enforce the law, they're
going to lose money," McEachin said. "The counties' attorneys offices are not going to have the money
to prosecute because their prosecutions are going to go down."

Today, the Virginia National Guard responded to both McEachin's comment and questions from Virginia's
citizens.

"We have received multiple questions regarding proposed legislation for the 2020 General Assembly
session and the authority of the Governor of Virginia to employ the Virginia National Guard in a law
enforcement role," the Virginia National Guard tweeted on behalf of Adjutant General of Virginia Major
General Timothy P. Williams.

Second Amendment Sanctuaries gained popularity in Virginia after the legislature attained a Democratic
majority in the last election. Believing their "right to bear arms" as protected under the Second Amendment
of the U.S. Constitution would be threatened, some conservatives have turned to the idea of Second
Amendment Sanctuaries in order to keep their rights.

"We understand and respect the passion people feel for the U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment rights,"
the tweet continued. "We will not speculate about the possible use of the Virginia National Guard.
We have not received any requests from the Governor, or anyone on his staff, about serving in a law
enforcement role related to any proposed legislation."...'
NewsWeek:



Quote:Virginia National Guard responds after Democratic lawmaker suggests it may be needed to enforce gun
control measures.

'The Virginia National Guard on Friday responded to a Democratic lawmaker after he suggested that it may
be needed to enforce new gun legislation.

The remarks from Rep. A. Donald McEachin (D-Va.) suggesting that Gov. Ralph Northam (D) “may have to
nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law” comes as dozens of counties across Virginia have declared
themselves “Second Amendment sanctuaries” after Democrats took over the state legislature last election.

"We have received multiple questions regarding proposed legislation for the 2020 General Assembly session
and the authority of the Governor of Virginia to employ the Virginia National Guard in a law enforcement role,”
the Virginia National Guard wrote in a statement posted on Twitter Friday.

“We understand and respect the passion people feel for the U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment rights.
We will not speculate about the possible use of the Virginia National Guard,” it added.

Quote:We understand and respect the passion people feel for the U.S. Constitution
and 2nd Amendment rights.  We will not speculate about the possible use of
the Virginia National Guard.
— Va. National Guard (@VaNationalGuard) December 13, 2019

Northam had previously hinted that should the Democratic-controlled state legislature pass stricter gun legislation
and law enforcement not follow it, there would be consequences. "If we have constitutional laws on the books and
law enforcement officers are not enforcing those laws on the books, then there are going to be some consequences,"
Northam said Thursday, according to WSET.

"But I’ll cross that bridge if and when we get to it," he added.

McEachin took it a step further when discussing the rise of such counties in Virginia and Democrats' push to pass gun
legislation — primarily universal background checks — when the legislative session begins next year.

"And ultimately, I'm not the governor, but the governor may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law," he
said. "That's his call, because I don't know how serious these counties are and how severe the violations of law will be.
But that's obviously an option he has."

The resolutions passed by more than 50 counties in Virginia are not legally binding and instead serve as declarations
of support for citizens to exercise the right to carry weapons. Northam added that there will be no retaliation for the counties
that pass such resolutions, noting that none of his proposed gun measures include taking away people’s guns, according
to the news outlet...'
The Hill:

Oh yes, that assurance always works.
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#40
@"Ninurta" 
Let me see if I can insert the video.  You have to choose the Face Book option when you post it.

ETA:  Nope! Didn't work for me either. 

Yep, FB censoring certain information. Twitter, Google, and FB are in cahoots to keep the truth from spreading as we come closer to the 2020 election.

Wonder how much Soros is paying them? 

I know you don't want to turn tail and run, but it sounds like things are getting hot there.  Just remember there are a few states to your south where you would be welcome, and one of them even has the same company you work for now. Maybe put in for a transfer?   minusculebiggrin


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