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Jeffrey Epstein Arrested for Child Sex Trafficking
#1
The evidence of Epstein's past behavior of trafficking children was shared here on RN by me in my "Let's Go Down the Rabbit Hole" thread last year, or maybe earlier.  Now, finally, after getting a slap on the wrist the last time he was arrested, he has been arrested again, and this time he might just bring down many of the "elite" in Holly Wood and the U.S. Congress with him.


Quote:Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on Saturday and will appear in New York court on Monday to be charged with sex trafficking, according to multiple law enforcement sources.

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Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for allegedly sex trafficking dozens of minors in New York and Florida between 2002 and 2005, and will appear in court in New York on Monday, according to three law enforcement sources. Saturday's arrest by the FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force comes about 12 years after the 66-year-old financier essentially got a slap on the wrist for allegedly molesting dozens of underage girls in Florida.

For more than a decade, Epstein’s alleged abuse of minors has been the subject of lawsuits brought by victims, investigations by local and federal authorities, and exposés in the press. But despite the attention cast on his alleged sex crimes, the hedge-funder has managed to avoid any meaningful jail time, let alone federal charges.

The new indictment—which, according to two sources, will be unsealed Monday in Manhattan federal court—will reportedly allege that Epstein sexually exploited dozens of underage girls in a now-familiar scheme: paying them cash for "massages" and then molesting or sexually abusing them in his Upper East Side mansion or his palatial residence in Palm Beach. Epstein will be charged with one count of sex trafficking of minors and one count of conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors—which could put him away for a maximum of 45 years. The case is being handled by the Public Corruption Unit of the Southern District of New York, with assistance from the district's human-trafficking officials and the FBI.

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Quote:A New York federal appeals court on Wednesday ordered the unsealing of up to 2,000 pages of judicial documents that are expected to show evidence relating to whether New York financier Jeffrey Epstein and his partner, Ghislaine Maxwell, were recruiting underage girls and young women as part of an international sex trafficking operation.
The decision comes two days after the Miami Herald urged the court to issue a ruling in the civil case in the wake of last week’s Justice Department announcement in the federal criminal case that it would not void Epstein’s controversial 2008 non-prosecution agreement.
Using others as recruiters, Epstein lured underage girls to his waterfront estate in Palm Beach from 1997 to 2006 under the guise that he was hiring them to give him massages. He sexually abused them, the girls told authorities, then paid them to recruit other girls, mostly 13 to 16 years old. Epstein, now 66, was never federally prosecuted, having received immunity in exchange for pleading guilty to lesser charges in state court in 2008.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/f...rylink=cpy

It will be interesting to see what, and who, are in those 2,000 pages of documents!  Wonder if Bill Clinton will be mentioned? tinysure 

Quote:Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known

Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.

Clinton’s presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that, and trips between 2001 and 2003 included extended junkets around the world with Epstein and fellow passengers identified on manifests by their initials or first names, including “Tatiana.” The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.

“Bill Clinton … associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile,” said Conchita Sarnoff, of the Washington, D.C. based non-profit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, and author of a book on the Epstein case called "TrafficKing." “Why would a former president associate with a man like that?”

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Epstein, who counts among his pals royal figures, heads of state, celebrities and fellow billionaires, spent 13 months in prison and home detention for solicitation and procurement of minors for prostitution. He allegedly had a team of traffickers who procured girls as young as 12 to service his friends on “Orgy Island,” an estate on Epstein's 72-acre island, called Little St. James, in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

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A tweet from Nancy Pelosi's daughter, Christine, suggests they all know who is guilty, and who will be implicated in the days ahead.


Quote:Christine Pelosi‏ @sfpelosi

This Epstein case is horrific and the young women deserve justice. It is quite likely that some of our faves are implicated but we must follow the facts and let the chips fall where they may - whether on Republicans or Democrats. #WeSaidEnough #MeToo[Image: MeToo_v3.png]

No doubt the Democrats will try to tie President Trump into this mess because of his past association with Epstein, but when you live in the circles Trump did/does, no doubt you are going to run into him at parties and business networking meetings.

President Trump had Epstein banned from his resort in FL when he found out about him assaulting a 14 year old girl there. If he were a true friend of Epstein this would have been swept under the rug and we wouldn't even know about it.  
Also, the two + years of the Mueller investigation would have nailed President Trump if they had found ANYTHING to arrest him, especially something like this.

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There will be more; they (the MSM) will twist and turn everything they can find to use against Trump, so just get ready for the lies to hit the main stream news next week. They will try to distract the story away from Epstein and make it all about President Trump.


Also, Prince Andrew and Kevin Spacey might be in some serious trouble in the days ahead. 

Prince Andrew


Kevin Spacey

I'll keep the thread updated as news comes out.


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Well, isn't this just fine and dandy?!!!   smalltappingfoot Take into account that this IS CNN reporting this, so we'll have to wait and see if it's true.


Quote:CNN reported on Saturday night that the prosecutor is James Comey’s daughter.

Quote:A team of federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York, along with some in the public corruption unit, have been assigned to the case.
Maurene Comey, the daughter of former FBI director James Comey, is one of the prosecutors, according to a source with knowledge of the case.

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@"Mystic Wanderer" 
We all have to understand that besides Bill Clinton, there was a Lot of Other VERY Important people on his island.
In New York many of these People Lived, this whole case will Quietly Disappear from the news and the Judge will give him Probation, because he is Such a Good Contributor to the Democratic Party and the Judges Reelection.

My husband and myself truly believe he will walk away and he knows this, does anyone see the #Metoo crowd or any other Feminist group Demanding His Head? No.
George Soros isn't paying them to Make Demands On This one.
JMHO
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(07-07-2019, 04:42 PM)guohua Wrote: @"Mystic Wanderer" 
We all have to understand that besides Bill Clinton, there was a Lot of Other VERY Important people on his island.
In New York many of these People Lived, this whole case will Quietly Disappear from the news and the Judge will give him Probation, because he is Such a Good Contributor to the Democratic Party and the Judges Reelection.

My husband and myself truly believe he will walk away and he knows this, does anyone see the #Metoo crowd or any other Feminist group Demanding His Head? No.
George Soros isn't paying them to Make Demands On This one.
JMHO

Maybe, but A.G. Barr is all about justice, so I'm hoping he will serve some real time this time around. It doesn't help that Comey's daughter is one of the prosecutors; they will try to get him off. (No pun intended)   tinylaughing 

At the very least, we might get some names of others involved, especially after what Pelosi's daughter tweeted. She knows what's up.
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@"Mystic Wanderer" 
We can only hope that A. G. Barr is not part of the Swamp.
Let up keep our fingers crossed.
BUT! If Epstein to goes down so does a lot of others, B. Clinton included, That Is Not Going To Happen, In My Humble Opinion.
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#6
They arrested him on (1) One count of Sex Trafficking and (1) One count of Conspiracy to Commit Sex Trafficking. smalltappingfoot 

After all the years of complaints from young girls and women about Epstein, this is the Best they can come up with?  minusculenonono 
Quote:CBS Miami reported that Mr. Epstein was arrested late Saturday afternoon at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey after his private jet landed there from Paris. He was taken into custody by federal agents.

The television station said Mr. Epstein was arrested under a sealed federal indictment and charged with one count of sex trafficking and one count of conspiracy to commit sex trafficking.
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Here is a nice little gem to tuck in your pocket. It's Epstein's little black book!  Are these the people he has "dirt" on?  From what I'm seeing on Twitter, it is.

Time to buckle up, Buttercup!  The ride is about to get bumpy!


Here are but a few of the names you might recognize:

Alec Baldwin, Courtney Love, David Blaine, Duke of York, Dustin Hoffman, Mick Jagger, Kissinger, Ted Kennedy, Evelyn de Rothschild, Cheryl Mills, Kevin Spacey, Peter Soros, Maria Shriver, David Rockefeller, John Kerry, and more.

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(07-07-2019, 05:45 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Here are but a few of the names you might recognize:

Alec Baldwin, Courtney Love, David Blaine, Duke of York, Dustin Hoffman, Mick Jagger, Kissinger, Ted Kennedy, Evelyn de Rothschild, Cheryl Mills, Kevin Spacey, Peter Soros, Maria Shriver, David Rockefeller, John Kerry, and more.


There's quite a list of the rich and shameless.
Chris Evans, Scotland Yard, Bernie Ecclestone, Minnie Driver,David Frost and many more that
would make BIAD's eyebrows raise... if he had any.
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#9
Next week is going to be delightful for us "conspiracy theorists" getting validation of our past claims.  I hope the PizzaGate "conspiracy" comes to light too. Between Epstein and the NXIVM case, I don't see how it can be avoided...eventually.

Here are some interesting tid-bits if you missed them in my other threads.

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I think it's only appropriate to have a Facebook marker inserted here!
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(07-07-2019, 08:01 PM)BIAD Wrote: I think it's only appropriate to have a Facebook marker inserted here!
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#12
Here is the press conference from this morning.

#13
Remember the underground tunnels at Epstein's Island?  If you followed Q you know about all that. If not, go do your research.
Anyway, I just wanted to remind everyone about this fire that burned on the island this past January. 


Quote:On Friday evening, residents living in the Caribbean near Jeffrey Epstein, a wealthy registered sex offender, reported hearing an explosion and seeing a very large fire on the southwest corner of his private island.

It was questioned by Anons if they were blowing up the tunnels to get rid of evidence. Even if it wasn't the tunnels, this looks like an attempt to get rid of incriminating evidence.

Quote:At this time, the exact cause of the explosion is unknown.

It might have simply been a faulty transformer or perhaps something more sinister, such as the destruction of evidence in relation to Epstein’s latest legal troubles.


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Go  HERE and post Jeffrey Epstein, or Epstein Island, or just Epstein, into the search bar to see all the posts about him.
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Epstein agrees to name names for a prison term of no more than 5 years.  

Here we go, Folks! It's happening!   smallgreenbananadancer 



Quote:Politics
Report: Epstein to Name Individuals Involved in Underage Sex in Return For 5 Year Maximum Sentence

High profile culprits to be revealed?

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Disgraced sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein is set to give up the names individuals who paid for underage sex in return for a maximum prison sentence that will not exceed 5 years.

Epstein was arrested on Saturday night on charges of sex trafficking of minors.

“Epstein’s lawyer has already made a proffer to SDNY. Epstein will agree to cooperate with the investigation, including giving up the names of individuals that paid for activities with underage girls in exchange for a maximum sentence not to exceed 5 years,” tweeted OANN’s Jack Posobiec.

Given the raft of high profile people linked with Epstein, including Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and Kevin Spacey, such names could be eyebrow-raising to say the least.

However, the possibility remains that Epstein could turn over lesser known persons who were implicated and protect his rich friends.

Bill Clinton flew on Epstein’s Lolita Express at least 26 times according to flight logs and the billionaire sex offender had 21 phone numbers for Clinton.

Others who have been connected to Epstein include a number of A-list celebrities, but many of them broke off contact with Epstein after he was convicted in 2008 for having sex with an underage girl.

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Here is the full indictment transcript:   Transcript
#16
Lots of Q posts today involving Jeffrey Epstein. Number 3366 told us to connect the dots between Epstein and Les Wexner.


Quote:3366

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Q!!mG7VJxZNCI 8 Jul 2019 - 7:33:03 PM
Les Wexner.
Founder of Victoria's Secret.
Connect the dots.
Q


Amazing Polly put out a great video showing Epstein's background and who his connections have been over the past years. Wexner comes into play mid-way in the video.

Click on the video link and go to You Tube to get all the links to the information she shares. And while you're there, give her a "thumb's up", and a donation if you can.
Very, very good research done by Polly!   minusculeclap 


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@"Mystic Wanderer"  I gave her a  minusculethumbsup2 good video.
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(07-09-2019, 02:58 AM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Lots of Q posts today involving Jeffrey Epstein. Number 3366 told us to connect the dots between Epstein and Les Wexner.


Quote:3366

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Q!!mG7VJxZNCI 8 Jul 2019 - 7:33:03 PM
Les Wexner.
Founder of Victoria's Secret.
Connect the dots.
Q

From the list (I'm still researching the rest and haven't got to Wexner yet!)

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Quote:'...On Monday, as federal prosecutors unsealed new charges claiming Epstein ran a sex-trafficking ring that lured
dozens of young women to the house, its heavy wood doors bore crowbar marks -- evidence of how authorities
forced their way in over the sultry Fourth of July weekend.

Prosecutors say they discovered hundreds, possibly thousands of suggestive photographs, including those of what
appeared to be underage girls.

The latest turn in the long, lurid saga of Jeff Epstein comes more than a decade after a secretive plea deal enabled him
to avoid similar charges in Florida. Now, familiar questions are swirling again about his possible links to a Who’s Who
of prominent political and business figures.

For all his infamy, there are scant details of how he made his money.
While he’s frequently been called a billionaire, his net worth is hard to ascertain. He ran a money management firm catering
to the ultra-rich, primarily for Victoria’s Secret founder Les Wexner, but its assets were never made public and few on Wall
Street have dealt with him as a financier or money manager.

According to his lawyers more than a decade ago, he had a net worth in excess of nine figures.
Today, so little is known about Epstein’s current business or clients that the only things that can be valued with any certainty are
his properties.
The Manhattan mansion is estimated to be worth at least $77 million, according to a federal document submitted in advance of
Epstein’s bail hearing.

He also has properties in New Mexico, Paris and the U.S. Virgin Islands, where he has a private island, and a Palm Beach estate
with an assessed value of more than $12 million. He shuttles between them by private jet and has at least 15 cars, including seven
Chevrolet Suburbans, according to federal authorities...'

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Les Wexner.

'...Epstein’s money management business had an exclusive focus: It would serve only billionaires.
Epstein reportedly made all the investment calls.

Since the 1990s, the company has been incorporated in the U.S. Virgin Islands and is now called Financial Trust Co.
A person answering the phone at the Saint Thomas-based company hung up after a request for comment was made.

The main client was Wexner, the founder of underwear maker L Brands. Epstein started managing his money in the 1980s and
a 2003 Vanity Fair profile noted the pair had a close relationship, close enough for Epstein to acquire the Manhattan mansion
from Wexner. It’s unclear how much Epstein paid and when he actually took ownership.

Wexner had purchased the property from the Birch Wathen School, a Manhattan prep school in 1989, according to city records.
He sold it in 1998 to a Virgin Islands entity called NES LLC, according to a person familiar with the matter. Epstein is affiliated
with NES, public records show.

There are no New York property records documenting a transfer until 2011, when the company that Wexner used to purchase the
townhouse transferred it to Epstein’s Virgin Islands-based Maple Inc. for $0. Epstein signed for both sides of the transaction.
“People have said it’s like we have one brain between two of us: each has a side,” Epstein said in the 2003 profile.

Wexner, who has a $6.7 billion fortune on the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, declined to comment. He cut ties with Epstein more
than a decade ago as suspicions about Epstein swirled, with alleged victims saying Epstein used his employees to bring local
teen girls to his Florida mansion for sex and paid them to recruit new victims. The girls were as young as 13-years-old

None of Epstein’s other clients have been identified.
But while his money management firm remains a black box, the same can’t be said of Epstein himself...'
Bloomberg:

Epstein's alleged 'Madam' -Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, the deceased British media proprietor
and Member of Parliament. I remember the day back in 1991 when he was sailing on his yacht after being accused of
massive fraud with the Mirror Group pension funds and other dodgy dealings.
His body was supposedly found later floating in the sea and in my opinion, it was all a sham.

Now it seems his daughter was also into stuff that uses people for financial-gains, but the real reason may be that's
she's Mossad.


Quote:'...Though Epstein is the only person named, many powerful people with ties to the 66-year-old are likely feeling a little
nervous about the consequences of the billionaire’s arrest -including Ghislaine Maxwell, a confidante of Epstein’s who
has been connected to him for more than two decades and is alleged to have played a critical role in recruiting and
grooming underage girls into his sex-trafficking ring.

Though Maxwell is a key figure in the Epstein case, she has not yet been arrested and has repeatedly denied accusations
against her. As the details of Epstein’s alleged crimes become clearer, however, we’re likely to hear her name come up
again and again.

Here’s everything we know about the alleged madam so far.


Quote:She’s a 57-year-old British socialite.
Maxwell is the daughter of publisher Robert Maxwell -in short, she comes from money.
After growing up and attending university in England, she moved to the United States following her father’s death in 1991.
Exactly how Maxwell and Epstein met is unclear, but the two reportedly dated for a short period of time, then remained friends
after breaking up.

Per a 2002 New York Magazine profile of Epstein, Maxwell -who has been linked to Epstein for more than two decades
-“lent a little pizzazz to the lower-profile Epstein.” The story continues:

The Oxford-educated Maxwell, described by many as a man-eater (she flies her own helicopter and was recently seen dining
with [Bill] Clinton at Nello’s on Madison Avenue), lives in her own townhouse a few blocks away. Epstein is frequently seen
around town with a bevy of comely young women but there has been no boldfaced name to replace Maxwell.
“You may read about Jeffrey in the social columns, but there is much more to him than that,” says Jeffrey T. Leeds of the private
equity firm Leeds Weld & Co.

She also, in 2012, founded the TerraMar Project, a nonprofit that advocates for protecting ocean waters.
She’s friendly with a number of notable figures, including Bill Clinton and British royal-family members.
Over the years, Maxwell has been photographed alongside many prominent, powerful people who are linked to Epstein, such
as Donald Trump, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, and lawyer Alan Dershowitz.
Maxwell was even a guest at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding in 2010.

She’s been accused of recruiting and grooming girls and women into Epstein’s alleged sex-trafficking ring.
According to multiple court filings reviewed by the Miami Herald, lawyers for one of Epstein’s alleged victims have claimed
that Epstein and Maxwell acted as the leaders of an “organized crime family” and that Maxwell helped traffic girls and women
to powerful figures.
Per the documents, Maxwell lured the alleged victims into the sex ring by offering them modeling, fashion, and educational
opportunities.

Though Epstein is the only one named in the new indictment, there are court documents that could shed light on Maxwell’s
alleged involvement: around 2,000 pages from a 2015 defamation case filed by a woman named Virginia Giuffre, who publicly
claimed in a sworn affidavit the year earlier that Maxwell had recruited her into Epstein’s sex ring to be a “sex slave” when she
was just 16.
(After being recruited, she says, she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz.)

In response, Maxwell called Giuffre’s claims “entirely false” on numerous occasions, compelling the latter to file the lawsuit.
But the case never went to trial: In May 2017, it was settled the day before the trial was scheduled to start, and a U.S. District
Court judge ordered a significant portion of the filings to be sealed; furthermore, the records that were made public were
heavily blacked out.

On July 3 of this year, though, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ordered that some of the aforementioned sealed
documents be released. However, the court did not provide a deadline.

(Additionally, in 2017, a woman named Sarah Ransome alleged in a lawsuit that Maxwell and Epstein had threatened to physically
hurt her or ruin her career were she to refuse to have sex with the pair’s clients. Ransome withdrew the suit in December 2018 for
reasons that were not made public.)

Sanford L. Bohrer, the Miami Herald’s attorney, has urged the New York appeals court to prioritize unsealing the 2,000-some pages
of documents related to the 2015 defamation case, as the allegations against Maxwell are “an issue of critical public concern.”
And speaking of the potential consequences of Epstein’s indictment, David Boies, the lawyer representing Giuffre, told the Herald,
“The one person most likely in jeopardy is Maxwell because the records that are going to be unsealed have so much evidence
against her.”
Maxwell has not made any comment since Epstein’s arrest...'
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Here's some celeb images where Ghislaine Maxwell shows up.
(Top Left Onwards): Here she is pimping Virginia Roberts out to Prince Andrew. (Epstein allegedly paid Roberts $15,000 for the jump!)
Donald Trump allegedly being handled by Mossad Agent Maxwell.
Ghislaine Maxwell during a photo-shoot.
Maxwell attending Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
Accompanying her late-father and thief Robert Maxwell, before he staged his fake death or was assassinated. (In my opinion)


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I found this little bit of  info

Quote:Epstein's child trafficking pimp Ghislaine Maxwell caught at Chelsea Clinton's wedding surfaces
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Meet Ghislaine Maxwell, the socialite daughter of disgraced, leftist conman, Robert Maxwell.

She was Jeffrery Epstein’s pimp, groomer, fixer, confidante, and enforcer for two decades.

She also earned a front row invitation to Chelsea Clinton’s intimate wedding.


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                                  The Clinton family connection to Epstein and perhaps his child trafficking network keeps revealing itself, as a photo has surfaced of Epstein's child trafficking pimp being at the wedding of Chelsea Clinton a few years ago. You can only be curious why one of Epstein's known child trafficking pimps would of been at the wedding of Clinton family member Chelsea Clinton, and this just adds to the growing list of obvious Clinton family connections to Epstein and his child trafficking network. The other day it was revealed that Epstein claimed to be the co-founder of the Clinton Global Initiative which is an outlet for the Clinton Foundation, so it only makes further sense as to why one of Epstein's known pimps would of been at the wedding of Chelsea Clinton.
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(07-10-2019, 12:04 PM)Wallfire Wrote: I found this little bit of  info

Quote:Epstein's child trafficking pimp Ghislaine Maxwell caught at Chelsea Clinton's wedding surfaces
If the legal rout of sex-traffickers is taken to its full extent, Ghislaine Maxwell should end-up in prison too.
However, if the Mossad-connection is true (just like her father), I seriously expect the US authorities will
find a way to allow her to dodge a conviction.
The thousands of photographs that the Police confiscated from Epstein's town house -I believe, were orchestrated
by Maxwell and the young girls in those images were controlled by her.

Of course, some of the photos are actual blackmailing evidence of sexual acts between these females and noted men.
Let's just hope they sort this.
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