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Population Collapse? - EndtheMadnessNow - 06-16-2022

According to Elon Musk, the greatest challenge the world will face within 20 years is population collapse and "UN projections are utter nonsense." He also predicted that along with this trend, China will lose about 40 percent of its population every generation.

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1537340314695917568


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The Quickening

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Art Bell used to make reference to a phenomena he called "The Quickening" (tribute to the movie "Highlander"), a phenomena that would send all of humanity across the threshold of a complete paradigm shift.

In 1997 he published a book titled The Quickening: Today's Trends, Tomorrow's World

Quote:In the past, advances in technology have served as the impetus for far-reaching change; we are propelled forward, and our lives are changed forever. Technology is the difference between where we are now and the path not taken. Not only is technology an important example of how aspects of the Quickening overlap and affect each other, much like a patchwork quilt, but technology is the core of the Quickening.

Indeed you can see that the boundaries of the aspects of the Quickening are blurred; here you have seen that technology affects the way we behave in society, it affects our global safety, it affects our political ties, and much more. We can look forward to astounding numbers of technological advances in the very near future. For the "Millennium Generation" and beyond, the sky will be the limit. At any rate, you should take a good look at the world around you because it won't be the same when you wake up tomorrow.
The Quickening - Chapter 1

"USA birth rate has been below min sustainable levels for ~50 years. Past two years have been a demographic disaster. I mean, I’m doing my part haha. This is highly unusual btw. Statistically, the richer someone is, the fewer kids they have."
- Elon Musk on raising awareness (again)


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Births in U.S. Drop to Levels Not Seen Since 1979


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U.S. Population Growth, an Economic Driver, Grinds to a Halt

Now, do you think this may have something to do with open borders & mass migration going on right now?

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Yet, at same time, Woke folks have been brainwashed & mind controlled via fear and gender-bender transhumanism inversion to not having human biological kids. The parasitic ruling-class despise us, but they cannot survive without us. But lack of population growth will doom us given the ponzi nature of our economies.


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ZeroHedge


Quote:Demographic experts warn that the world should fear population collapse and not overpopulation

One such expert, Steven Mosher, president of the Population Research Institute, wrote back in 1997 in The Wall Street Journal:

Humanity’s long-term problem is not going to be too many children, but too few: too few children to fill the schools and universities, too few young people entering the work force, too few couples buying homes and second cars. In short, too few consumers and producers to drive the economy forward. The imploding markets of Europe and the economic sluggishness of Japan will spread soon enough to the U.S. and the rest of the world. Why spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year on contraception and sterilization that will only bring that day closer?

Pop collapse, Depop agenda, big pharma mRNA Vaxx madness, shortages, inflation, Billions going to the Ukraine, border open to all, CCP owned Xiden Administration, supply chain chaos, mysterious pattern of food plants catching fire, biometric payment systems, and on & on. I dunno about population collapse, but I'm fairly sure we are going to have economic collapse followed by societal collapse of some kind, leading to massive civil unrest.


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Hope ya'll got air bags.
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Have a good day/night Rogues.


RE: Population Collapse? - 727Sky - 06-16-2022

Population collapse in most first world countries the exception being many places in Africa. However, as more ice melts and fresh water is dumped into the oceans the gulf stream shuts down along with other currents that bring hot water from the equator to the north and then, "BOOM" another ice age where people absolutely freeze to death especially the green weenies who think solar and wind mills will save them ! We can survive heat but not a frozen earth where noting can grow.. minusculebeercheers


RE: Population Collapse? - Ninurta - 06-16-2022

(06-16-2022, 09:59 PM)727Sky Wrote: Population collapse in most first world countries the exception being many places in Africa. However, as more ice melts and fresh water is dumped into the oceans the gulf stream shuts down along with other currents that bring hot water from the equator to the north and then, "BOOM" another ice age where people absolutely freeze to death especially the green weenies who think solar and wind mills will save them ! We can survive heat but not a frozen earth where noting can grow.. minusculebeercheers

I've been thinking for a while now that the agenda is to revive the ice age again before we can finish getting out of it, and thereby cover Canada almost entirely, Europe by about half, and even the US down to 40 or 41 degrees north latitude with ice sheets a mile or two thick. That will concentrate what humans are left to a tighter band centered equatorially.

The population collapse is just nature taking it's course. Biologically, any organism (humans included) that populates itself beyond the available resources is destined for collapse, and that is just what we have done. The Greenies hope to exacerbate that and accelerate the population collapse by declaring some resources, like fossil fuels, to be off limits. The "replacement" technologies they are promoting are nowhere near ready to replace existing technologies, so by wiping out the existing technologies before replacements are ready, they are dooming millions to starvation and war. It's, I believe, a conscious effort to kill population segments off by having the population kill each other off in wars and criminal violence for resources, too busy surviving to see who is actually pulling those strings.

But to do that, they have to first get us to overpopulate, which they have done a hell of a job at.

The entirely of over-population cannot be laid solely at the feet of the "reproductive replacement rate". Another large part of the problem is existing health technology, which has allowed a lot of people who would have died 100 years ago to survive and dump their genes into the population. Since a number of fatal conditions are genetically related, those genes will guarantee an acceleration of population collapse when it starts - Lots of folks will be carrying the defective genes around thanks to medical science, and when that science is no longer available due to the rising violence, wars, and population collapse, it will generate a feedback loop that will accelerate the collapse as those folks start dying off without violence or war, because they will also be without the proper healthcare to prop their ability to continue living up.

Humans have overcome "natural selection", at least for the moment, with medical science. That will come back to bite humanity in the ass as nature takes over and starts weeding those genes out of the gene pool again after the artificial human selection of medical science is truncated.

The relatively recent push for "healthcare as a human right" is part of that deception. Neither health care, riches, nor even food is a "human right". Human rights only extend to those things a human can enforce for his or her self. If a person has to depend on someone else to supply their "rights", then those rights are not rights at all, they are charity at the good pleasure of the provider, and nothing more.

I recently watched a video on the shrinking human brain. Human brains steadily increased in size all through prehistory, but since the advent of "civilization" have started shrinking again. The modern human brain is, on average, 15% smaller today than the average human brain was 5000 years ago, and still in decline. The video blamed it mostly on the easy availability of food and sedentary life style that civilization brings, but I think it could be more a result of job diversification and specialization. People no longer need to know how to do everything for themselves. Now, they can do ONE thing, do it well and know it thoroughly, and depend on someone else to provide what they don't know how to do for themselves.

That will change, and ,may already be changing to a degree, when the supply chains of globalism undergo their engineered collapse. I don't think the change will be enough to keep most of the population out of the stone age, however, because the brain volume increase cannot come as rapidly as the supply chain collapse, so there is going to be a generations-long "learning curve", which will also assist depopulation as the folks who are unable to keep up will die off.

It was a sad day when people first started letting other folks do their thinking for them, and that is destined to get even sadder when the actual collapsing comes.

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RE: Population Collapse? - 727Sky - 06-17-2022

I will throw this in here because I am late to leave for a match and to lazy to start a thread. I have not seen maps as depicted in the video... Not to worry though I doubt any of us will be around to see these earth changes.. Just another cycle where everything is reset for a new beginning.



RE: Population Collapse? - EndtheMadnessNow - 06-17-2022

(06-16-2022, 11:51 PM)Ninurta Wrote:
(06-16-2022, 09:59 PM)727Sky Wrote: Population collapse in most first world countries the exception being many places in Africa. However, as more ice melts and fresh water is dumped into the oceans the gulf stream shuts down along with other currents that bring hot water from the equator to the north and then, "BOOM" another ice age where people absolutely freeze to death especially the green weenies who think solar and wind mills will save them ! We can survive heat but not a frozen earth where noting can grow.. minusculebeercheers

I've been thinking for a while now that the agenda is to revive the ice age again before we can finish getting out of it, and thereby cover Canada almost entirely, Europe by about half, and even the US down to 40 or 41 degrees north latitude with ice sheets a mile or two thick. That will concentrate what humans are left to a tighter band centered equatorially.

The population collapse is just nature taking it's course. Biologically, any organism (humans included) that populates itself beyond the available resources is destined for collapse, and that is just what we have done. The Greenies hope to exacerbate that and accelerate the population collapse by declaring some resources, like fossil fuels, to be off limits. The "replacement" technologies they are promoting are nowhere near ready to replace existing technologies, so by wiping out the existing technologies before replacements are ready, they are dooming millions to starvation and war. It's, I believe, a conscious effort to kill population segments off by having the population kill each other off in wars and criminal violence for resources, too busy surviving to see who is actually pulling those strings.

But to do that, they have to first get us to overpopulate, which they have done a hell of a job at.

The entirely of over-population cannot be laid solely at the feet of the "reproductive replacement rate". Another large part of the problem is existing health technology, which has allowed a lot of people who would have died 100 years ago to survive and dump their genes into the population. Since a number of fatal conditions are genetically related, those genes will guarantee an acceleration of population collapse when it starts - Lots of folks will be carrying the defective genes around thanks to medical science, and when that science is no longer available due to the rising violence, wars, and population collapse, it will generate a feedback loop that will accelerate the collapse as those folks start dying off without violence or war, because they will also be without the proper healthcare to prop their ability to continue living up.

Humans have overcome "natural selection", at least for the moment, with medical science. That will come back to bite humanity in the ass as nature takes over and starts weeding those genes out of the gene pool again after the artificial human selection of medical science is truncated.

The relatively recent push for "healthcare as a human right" is part of that deception. Neither health care, riches, nor even food is a "human right". Human rights only extend to those things a human can enforce for his or her self. If a person has to depend on someone else to supply their "rights", then those rights are not rights at all, they are charity at the good pleasure of the provider, and nothing more.

I recently watched a video on the shrinking human brain. Human brains steadily increased in size all through prehistory, but since the advent of "civilization" have started shrinking again. The modern human brain is, on average, 15% smaller today than the average human brain was 5000 years ago, and still in decline. The video blamed it mostly on the easy availability of food and sedentary life style that civilization brings, but I think it could be more a result of job diversification and specialization. People no longer need to know how to do everything for themselves. Now, they can do ONE thing, do it well and know it thoroughly, and depend on someone else to provide what they don't know how to do for themselves.

That will change, and ,may already be changing to a degree, when the supply chains of globalism undergo their engineered collapse. I don't think the change will be enough to keep most of the population out of the stone age, however, because the brain volume increase cannot come as rapidly as the supply chain collapse, so there is going to be a generations-long "learning curve", which will also assist depopulation as the folks who are unable to keep up will die off.

It was a sad day when people first started letting other folks do their thinking for them, and that is destined to get even sadder when the actual collapsing comes.

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Mucho appreciate the hefty plate of juicy steak for thought. Many of your points I can agree on, others, well I just don't have enough wisdom yet to argue. Kids and them damn smartphones have really dumbed down the population. The “Great Dying” - this time by human stupidity & greed, if not another ice age or as you say nature's course.


RE: Population Collapse? - Ninurta - 06-17-2022

(06-17-2022, 02:22 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Mucho appreciate the hefty plate of juicy steak for thought. Many of your points I can agree on, others, well I just don't have enough wisdom yet to argue. Kids and them damn smartphones have really dumbed down the population. The “Great Dying” - this time by human stupidity & greed, if not another ice age or as you say nature's course.

You're welcome! And, just to throw in another negative variable, we have disease to contend with. Overpopulation promotes the spread of disease, because it creates more opportunity for contact among the members of a given species susceptible to the spreading disease. That is much further exacerbated by urban living, where people live in much closer, tighter, more cramped quarters, making the spread opportunistic not only because of more population (more chances for spread) but also because of less distance to travel person to person because of the cramped conditions.

I will note here, in a totally unrelated thought, that the Globalists seem intent on herding their human beasts into urban corrals, so-called "smart cities" where you will "own nothing and be happy", because a herd is far easier to direct and control when it is compacted. They seem to intend to keep them there by removing their transportation capabilities to leave via the outlawing of "fossil fuels".

That's totally unrelated. Just a random thought.

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RE: Population Collapse? - NightskyeB4Dawn - 06-17-2022

If we look at over population per available land mass per number of people on the planet, we do not even come close to being over populated.

If we look at the number of people on the planet, per amount of available resources, then yes, we are in trouble.

This is because the push for global oneness, made people move from a large number of self sustaining townships and local commerce, to everyone looking for sustenance and sustainability, from a single source. 

Individual farms, and Mom & Pop businesses, have been destroyed, by big box stores, and Amazon like businesses.

This slow but effective move to herd everyone to suck from the tit of one or two cows, was a brilliant move towards total control, with little effort. 

The herd is corralled under their own steam. All they have to do is open the gate, and ring the dinner bell.

And the masses come a running.


RE: Population Collapse? - Ninurta - 06-17-2022

(06-17-2022, 03:13 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: If we look at over population per available land mass per number of people on the planet, we do not even come close to being over populated.

If we look at the number of people on the planet, per amount of available resources, then yes, we are in trouble.

This is because the push for global oneness, made people move from a large number of self sustaining townships and local commerce, to everyone looking for sustenance and sustainability, from a single source. 

Individual farms, and Mom & Pop businesses, have been destroyed, by big box stores, and Amazon like businesses.

This slow but effective move to herd everyone to suck from the tit of one or two cows, was a brilliant move towards total control, with little effort. 

The herd is corralled under their own steam. All they have to do is open the gate, and ring the dinner bell.

And the masses come a running.

I did the math a few years ago, and at that time, if every human on Earth were corralled into a single circular space. allowing 4 square feet per body, they could all be contained in an area the size of an average city like Greensboro, NC, and leave the entire rest of the planet absolutely depopulated. a circle 32 miles in diameter would contain every human being then on Earth, standing room only. That leaves a lot of empty real estate, but not all of that real estate has the necessary or wanted resources to supply that tiny (area-wise) population. Especially considering the ever widening set of "needs" (really "wants") that most first-world people think are their birthright.

But we are not "standing room only", we are dispersed. That leaves us vulnerable to supply chain issues. Even hooved-up in cities, the supply chains will be an issue, as all those world-wide resources have to be transported to definitive points from their far-flung original locations.

So, no matter what the plan of the globalists is, no matter what we want or need, the herd is going to get thinned. Nothing we can do about it at this point.

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RE: Population Collapse? - NightskyeB4Dawn - 06-17-2022

(06-17-2022, 03:35 AM)Ninurta Wrote:
(06-17-2022, 03:13 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: If we look at over population per available land mass per number of people on the planet, we do not even come close to being over populated.

If we look at the number of people on the planet, per amount of available resources, then yes, we are in trouble.

This is because the push for global oneness, made people move from a large number of self sustaining townships and local commerce, to everyone looking for sustenance and sustainability, from a single source. 

Individual farms, and Mom & Pop businesses, have been destroyed, by big box stores, and Amazon like businesses.

This slow but effective move to herd everyone to suck from the tit of one or two cows, was a brilliant move towards total control, with little effort. 

The herd is corralled under their own steam. All they have to do is open the gate, and ring the dinner bell.

And the masses come a running.

I did the math a few years ago, and at that time, if every human on Earth were corralled into a single circular space. allowing 4 square feet per body, they could all be contained in an area the size of an average city like Greensboro, NC, and leave the entire rest of the planet absolutely depopulated. a circle 32 miles in diameter would contain every human being then on Earth, standing room only. That leaves a lot of empty real estate, but not all of that real estate has the necessary or wanted resources to supply that tiny (area-wise) population. Especially considering the ever widening set of "needs" (really "wants") that most first-world people think are their birthright.

But we are not "standing room only", we are dispersed. That leaves us vulnerable to supply chain issues. Even hooved-up in cities, the supply chains will be an issue, as all those world-wide resources have to be transported to definitive points from their far-flung original locations.

So, no matter what the plan of the globalists is, no matter what we want or need, the herd is going to get thinned. Nothing we can do about it at this point.

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RE: Population Collapse? - NightskyeB4Dawn - 06-17-2022

(06-17-2022, 03:35 AM)Ninurta Wrote: I did the math a few years ago, and at that time, if every human on Earth were corralled into a single circular space. allowing 4 square feet per body, they could all be contained in an area the size of an average city like Greensboro, NC, and leave the entire rest of the planet absolutely depopulated. a circle 32 miles in diameter would contain every human being then on Earth, standing room only. That leaves a lot of empty real estate, but not all of that real estate has the necessary or wanted resources to supply that tiny (area-wise) population. Especially considering the ever widening set of "needs" (really "wants") that most first-world people think are their birthright.

But we are not "standing room only", we are dispersed. That leaves us vulnerable to supply chain issues. Even hooved-up in cities, the supply chains will be an issue, as all those world-wide resources have to be transported to definitive points from their far-flung original locations.

So, no matter what the plan of the globalists is, no matter what we want or need, the herd is going to get thinned. Nothing we can do about it at this point.

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You are right. As it is, but things don't always go, as man plans. 

Humans can "survive" on the rudimentary basics. And we did so for centuries.

We have been conditioned to believe that we can't live without electricity, running water, or stores.

We have before, and if the great reset happens, we will again.

Not the great reset the WEF has in mind. The great reset that remodels the Earth, is the one I am referring to.  

There will indeed be a great culling. There is indeed no way to escape it. But either way I hope to do the best I can for as long as I can. 

Let me epitaph read :

Here lies Skye. Defiant, Rebellious, Compassionate, Loving, Stiff Necked.

She fought for right, even when she was wrong, and lived until the day she died.


RE: Population Collapse? - Ninurta - 06-17-2022

(06-17-2022, 04:06 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: You are right. As it is, but things don't always go, as man plans. 

Humans can "survive" on the rudimentary basics. And we did so for centuries.

We have been conditioned to believe that we can't live without electricity, running water, or stores.

We have before, and if the great reset happens, we will again.

Not the great reset the WEF has in mind. The great reset that remodels the Earth, is the one I am referring to.  

There will indeed be a great culling. There is indeed no way to escape it. But either way I hope to do the best I can for as long as I can. 

Let me epitaph read :

Here lies Skye. Defiant, Rebellious, Compassionate, Loving, Stiff Necked.

She fought for right, even when she was wrong, and lived until the day she died.

Yes indeed, it IS possible to live without electricity, running water, and stores. I did it for an extended number of years. Well, we sort of had "running water" in that we had to "run down to the spring and fetch it back".  It was only about a mile round trip, and you only had to carry the water for half of that (on the return trip), so it was manageable.

If I can do it, anyone can - but they have to have the "want to". It's unfortunate, but a great many people will think they can just take what they want from others, and will die for that miscalculation. In the modern world, there are just too many folks who know no other way. They will end their time on Earth as just another statistic in the great culling. Once they have stolen all they can, and there is nothing left to steal, they will starve to death, and if there is any justice their last thoughts will be "I should have been working towards a future geared towards eating when I was stealing instead".

As all who have gone before us have done, you do what you have to do until you can do no more, and then we, just as they, will live until we die.

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RE: Population Collapse? - EndtheMadnessNow - 06-18-2022

"Watch the opening scene of Idiocracy.

When I ask my friends why they’re not yet having kids (very few are), it sounds exactly like the movie." - Elon Musk




Resonates with what Ninurta was opining on.


RE: Population Collapse? - NightskyeB4Dawn - 06-18-2022

(06-18-2022, 07:39 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: "Watch the opening scene of Idiocracy.

When I ask my friends why they’re not yet having kids (very few are), it sounds exactly like the movie." - Elon Musk




Resonates with what Ninurta was opining on.

I spent the entire week past, serving over 300 children, preschoolers to grade 5. If you add in the preteens and teen helpers, it was over 400 children. They were amazing. I feel so sorry for the world they will have to deal with and will have to live through.

There is hope, but thee real work needs to be done by the parents. Not by the children, because the children have shown me that there is still hope. If we can get the parents to wake up and do the job a parent is supposed to to do.

And not that piss poor parenting they are getting from the internet parenting guidebook, Tiktok, Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram.

I didn't know what to say when a kid that could not have been older than 9 years old, was told by a security guard that he could not leave the building without an escort.

He stood there for a hot second, thought about it, yelled "5th Amendment!", then ran out the door. I am sure he was just copying something he heard grown folk say, and didn't know what he was talking about, but it shows that they will copy what they believe their parents are adamant about. Right or wrong.