(01-24-2022, 03:50 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: I wanted to share this channel on YT. It's my world events news go-to location. 

In this case, the subject is Russia and Ukraine. If you want some nitty-gritty details and comprehensive analysis, this is the place. Fair warning: this is in the military intel brief format (more or less). 

I get a lot of people texting me with Good Morning America level "news" on the subject. I am not sure how to address them other than to advise them it's Kool-Aid. Then they don't talk to me for a while. And shoot, who knows if what I am reading is worthwhile? Still, I like this.  

(01-26-2022, 06:52 AM)Ninurta Wrote: I wouldn't go to the Olympics in China for love or money. Not even a lot of love and a lot of money. Not even a lot of love, a lot of money, and a brand new Harley.

If they kick it off in the Ukraine, and especially the Ukraine and Hong Kong simultaneously for a war on two fronts, all they have to do is lock down Chinese airports to have a LOT of western hostages to bargain with.

We need to boycott the Olympics like, yesterday. To do otherwise may be sending a lot of sacrificial lambs to slaughter. Hell, even Carter had the balls to boycott the Olympics when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. I'd hate to be the only president to go down in history as having tinier balls than Carter.

Are you listening, BidenHarris?

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(01-25-2022, 11:56 PM)727Sky Wrote: Putin will go to China for the winter Olympics...so probably no invasion until after he returns to Russia... The thaw of the frozen ground will be around the middle of March so Russian armor can not go off road when that happens due to deep muddy conditions. Maybe a move by Russian forces before March 20th or after Putin returns to Russia.. Unless they kick everything off after the opening ceremony of the Olympics which is what I would do to catch the west with their pants down..

(01-26-2022, 12:03 PM)727Sky Wrote:

(01-26-2022, 06:52 AM)Ninurta Wrote: I wouldn't go to the Olympics in China for love or money. Not even a lot of love and a lot of money. Not even a lot of love, a lot of money, and a brand new Harley.

If they kick it off in the Ukraine, and especially the Ukraine and Hong Kong simultaneously for a war on two fronts, all they have to do is lock down Chinese airports to have a LOT of western hostages to bargain with.

We need to boycott the Olympics like, yesterday. To do otherwise may be sending a lot of sacrificial lambs to slaughter. Hell, even Carter had the balls to boycott the Olympics when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. I'd hate to be the only president to go down in history as having tinier balls than Carter.

Are you listening, BidenHarris?

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I think you meant to say Ukraine and Taiwan as they already have killed Hong Kong..

Quote:REPORT: Ukrainian president told Biden to TONE IT DOWN with the invasion talk........

Quote:It’s being reported this morning that Ukrainian President Zelensky told Biden in his phone call yesterday to tone it down with all of his imminent invasion talk regarding the potential Russian invasion:

Quote:DAILY MAIL – Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky Thursday urged President Joe Biden in a call on Thursday to tone down his rhetoric about the brewing situation between Ukraine and Russia, amid fears it could cause panic or a run on supplies, according to a report.

Zelensky made the plea in a call that ‘did not go well,’ CNN reported, citing a Ukrainian source. It included a plea by Zelensky for Biden to ‘calm down the messaging’ amid complex maneuverings over the potential invasion.
The urging came in a call where Biden told Zelensky Russia could invade within weeks.

It followed pushback earlier this week from Ukraine as the U.S. told family members of American diplomats to leave. Ukrainian officials maintained the move was unnecessary with a situation that is still uncertain, even as Russia continues to move troops and equipment to positions around Ukraine.

Source

(01-28-2022, 06:21 PM)guohua Wrote: This news article is what my husbands sources are secretly telling him about this Invasion. No one knows what Putin really has planned but Sources in the area (CIA/NSA) are seeing a build up of forces put also a large rotation of forces in and out. 
The Democrats are trying to create a Fake Invasion Crisis for Brain Dead Joe to Defuse or Stop.
They are saying or telling my husband the Real Crisi is Taiwan and China, their Intelligence reports are being Ignore by the Biden Administration.
But the Ukraine!

Quote:REPORT: Ukrainian president told Biden to TONE IT DOWN with the invasion talk........

Uh, doesn't Zelensky know that Biden desperately NEEDS Russia to invade to create a new and exciting CRISIS!!! To distract folks from the collapse of the DNC's COVID Sham! As Biden would say "C’mon man".

Source

(01-28-2022, 07:20 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: @"guohua" (and Mr G)

Hard to be sure what the Russian intentions really are.

But one thing seems to be a tip-off.

Troop concentrations like that on/near borders usually mean invasion is imminent.

Our State Dept. screwed the pooch on that one back when Iraq invaded Kuwait.  "Oh, Sadaam is just bluffing."  I knew he wasn't because of where his troops were, and the strength they were amassing.

Ironically, Russia provides a great example of this.  The Soviets got all kinds of warnings the Germans were massing on their frontiers in 1941.  Stalin's government ignored all the warnings ... until the Germans poured over the border.

As to the current situation.

I don't see a conventional invasion taking place.  I expect this to go down more like Czechoslovakia in 1968.  Airborne and special forces troops will seize the capital of Ukraine and decapitate the national government.  Then, and only then, will the conventional forces cross the border.  Their mission will be two-fold.  One part will be to provide security on the ground for a puppet government erected by the Russians.  Their other mission will be to defeat any elements of the Ukrainian Army that want to continue to resist.

The Russians have fifth-columnists all over Ukraine.  Some Ukrainians will fanatically resist.  What I fear is enough resistance will take place that the Russians will resort to war crimes as a way of stamping out guerrilla warfare by hard-core Ukrainians.

People in our forum may or may not know that after the Russians pushed the Germans out of Ukraine in 1944, there were Ukrainian partisan actions against the Soviet Army well into the 1950s.  It wasn't all communist-style happiness and light there.

Cheers

(01-28-2022, 06:21 PM)guohua Wrote: This news article is what my husbands sources are secretly telling him about this Invasion. No one knows what Putin really has planned but Sources in the area (CIA/NSA) are seeing a build up of forces put also a large rotation of forces in and out. 
The Democrats are trying to create a Fake Invasion Crisis for Brain Dead Joe to Defuse or Stop.
They are saying or telling my husband the Real Crisi is Taiwan and China, their Intelligence reports are being Ignore by the Biden Administration.
But the Ukraine!

Quote:REPORT: Ukrainian president told Biden to TONE IT DOWN with the invasion talk........

Uh, doesn't Zelensky know that Biden desperately NEEDS Russia to invade to create a new and exciting CRISIS!!! To distract folks from the collapse of the DNC's COVID Sham! As Biden would say "C’mon man".

Quote:It’s being reported this morning that Ukrainian President Zelensky told Biden in his phone call yesterday to tone it down with all of his imminent invasion talk regarding the potential Russian invasion:

Quote:DAILY MAIL – Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky Thursday urged President Joe Biden in a call on Thursday to tone down his rhetoric about the brewing situation between Ukraine and Russia, amid fears it could cause panic or a run on supplies, according to a report.

Zelensky made the plea in a call that ‘did not go well,’ CNN reported, citing a Ukrainian source. It included a plea by Zelensky for Biden to ‘calm down the messaging’ amid complex maneuverings over the potential invasion.
The urging came in a call where Biden told Zelensky Russia could invade within weeks.

It followed pushback earlier this week from Ukraine as the U.S. told family members of American diplomats to leave. Ukrainian officials maintained the move was unnecessary with a situation that is still uncertain, even as Russia continues to move troops and equipment to positions around Ukraine.

Source

Quote:It also seems convenient that when the covid narrative starts falling apart, they have a brand new boogie man to whip up the bed wetter's and pearl clutcher's.

(01-29-2022, 02:16 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: With regards to Ukraine, I would agree with the assessment your husband is getting. Russia has been deeply involved there for years now. The media has a 10 second attention span so it makes sense they portray it as "all of a sudden." And it gives Dear Leader a "Win." Now he is tough against Russia. 

After further contemplation, even if Russia pushes to the Dnieper (low odds IMHO) Joe can still claim he stared the Bear down from completely over running the whole country. 

It also seems convenient that when the covid narrative starts falling apart, they have a brand new boogie man to whip up the bed wetter's and pearl clutcher's.

(01-29-2022, 03:29 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(01-29-2022, 02:16 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: With regards to Ukraine, I would agree with the assessment your husband is getting. Russia has been deeply involved there for years now. The media has a 10 second attention span so it makes sense they portray it as "all of a sudden." And it gives Dear Leader a "Win." Now he is tough against Russia. 

After further contemplation, even if Russia pushes to the Dnieper (low odds IMHO) Joe can still claim he stared the Bear down from completely over running the whole country. 

It also seems convenient that when the covid narrative starts falling apart, they have a brand new boogie man to whip up the bed wetter's and pearl clutcher's.

Regarding Kiev/Kyiv and the Dneiper, I think if you check the map you'll finds they also have units staged along the northern border of the Ukraine already on both sides of the Dnieper. A push south by those units would already be "across the country", with the southwest corner of the Ukraine as the only potential "free" land assuming the initial invasions got halted at half.

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(01-29-2022, 03:29 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(01-29-2022, 02:16 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: With regards to Ukraine, I would agree with the assessment your husband is getting. Russia has been deeply involved there for years now. The media has a 10 second attention span so it makes sense they portray it as "all of a sudden." And it gives Dear Leader a "Win." Now he is tough against Russia. 

After further contemplation, even if Russia pushes to the Dnieper (low odds IMHO) Joe can still claim he stared the Bear down from completely over running the whole country. 

It also seems convenient that when the covid narrative starts falling apart, they have a brand new boogie man to whip up the bed wetter's and pearl clutcher's.

Regarding Kiev/Kyiv and the Dneiper, I think if you check the map you'll finds they also have units staged along the northern border of the Ukraine already on both sides of the Dnieper. A push south by those units would already be "across the country", with the southwest corner of the Ukraine as the only potential "free" land assuming the initial invasions got halted at half.

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(02-24-2022, 11:08 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: @"Ninurta" It looks like my assessment from a few days back was off the mark. The Russians are feeling really froggy. Even Kiev is on the menu. 

By the time the UN and NATO decide on matters, Ukraine will be in the history books. *My latest completely unscientific SAWG.