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The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 08-15-2016 Many people are already familiar with the U.N. Weather Weapons Treaty and how it came about in the 70's. But there are those that are not, much less believe that our governments (yes, plural) can and have been modifying (manipulating) the weather for quite some time now. The reality is, weather modification is no conspiracy theory. Since before the 50′s, techniques have been used to modify the weather. First of all, what is weather modification? Quote:Weather modding is the act of intentionally manipulating or altering the weather. The most common form of weather modification is cloud seeding to increase rain or snow, usually for the purpose of increasing the local water supply.[1] Weather modification can also have the goal of preventing damaging weather, such as hail or hurricanes, from occurring; or of provoking damaging weather against the enemy, as a tactic of military or economic warfare. Source The fact that using weather as a form of weapon upon another Nation was so imminent, the UN felt it necessary to draft a treaty ensuring that no Nation would use weather warfare as a means of attacking another country. Therefore, the thought of governments modifying the weather in NOT a conspiracy. As bizzarre and syfy as it sounds, it IS real. What is weather warfare? Quote:Weather warfare is the use of weather modification techniques such as cloud seeding for military purposes. Here is a part of the UN treaty regarding using weather warfare: To read more: UN.Org Environmental Modification Convention: Quote:The Environmental Modification Convention (ENMOD), formally the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Source History: Quote:The problem of artificial modification of the environment for military or other hostile purposes was brought to the international agenda in the early 1970s. Following the US decision of July 1972 to renounce the use of climate modification techniques for hostile purposes, the 1973 resolution by the US Senate calling for an international agreement "prohibiting the use of any environmental or geophysical modification activity as a weapon of war", and an in-depth review by the Department of Defense of the military aspects of weather and other environmental modification techniques, US decided to seek agreement with the Soviet Union to explore the possibilities of an international agreement. You can read more at the U.N. link here -->>State.Gov Unfortunately tho, the UN treaty left the door wide open for weather modification in the name of science for peaceful purposes, as is stated in Article III from above: So now, we have dozens of countries that have been playing around with the weather for decades and we wonder why it acts odd sometimes??? We know what has been used in the past to attempt to control the weather due to records. But with today's advanced high tech, wonder what toys they have created and are experimenting with now? RE: The U.N. Weapons Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 08-15-2016 Cloud seeding has been mentioned over and over. But what exactly is cloud seeding and how does it work? Cloud seeding: Quote:Cloud seeding, a form of weather modification, is the attempt to change the amount or type of precipitation that falls from clouds, by dispersing substances into the air that serve as cloud condensation or ice nuclei, which alter the microphysical processes within the cloud. The usual intent is to increase precipitation (rain or snow), but hail and fog suppression are also widely practiced in airports. Source Cloud seeding experimentation has been going on for decades, going back to 30's-40's. The U.S. Military used it during the Vietnam war, it was called Operation Popeye Operation Popeye: Quote:Operation Popeye (Project Controlled Weather Popeye/Motorpool/Intermediary-Compatriot) was a highly classified weather modification program in Southeast Asia during 1967–1972. The cloud seeding operation during the Vietnam War ran from March 20, 1967 until July 5, 1972 in an attempt to extend the monsoon season, specifically over areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail. The operation was used to induce rain and extend the East Asian Monsoon season in support of U.S. government efforts related to the War in Southeast Asia. Link How does cloud seeding work? Quote:The most common chemicals used for cloud seeding include silver iodide, potassium iodide and dry ice (solid carbon dioxide). Liquid propane, which expands into a gas, has also been used. This can produce ice crystals at higher temperatures than silver iodide. After promising research, the use of hygroscopic materials, such as table salt, is becoming more popular.[3] Cloud seeding to increase snowfall takes place when temperatures within the clouds are between 19 and −4 °F (−7 and −20 °C).[4] Introduction of a substance such as silver iodide, which has a crystalline structure similar to that of ice, will induce freezing nucleation. Quote:Cloud seeding is no longer considered a fringe science, and is considered a mainstream tool to improve rain precipitation and snow. New technology and research has produced reliable results that make cloud seeding a dependable and affordable water-supply practice for many regions.[6] While practiced widely around the world, the effectiveness of cloud seeding is still a matter of academic debate. In 2004 the United States National Research Council released a report stating that to date, there is still no convincing scientific proof of the efficacy of intentional weather modification as it only has 30 percent or less chance of success.[7] Cloud seeding has been shown to be effective in altering cloud structure and size and in converting supercooled liquid water to ice particles. The amount of precipitation due to seeding is difficult to quantify. RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 08-15-2016 JFK Forecasts Weather Control at 1961 UN General Assembly Chemtrails: The Exotic Weapon Quote:Electromagnetic schemes were already under way to control the weather by altering the Earth’s atmosphere . Weaponizing the weather would provide the element of plausible deniability when the enemy (or victim) could not tell if floods, drought, typhoons, tornadoes or hurricanes were natural or “man-made.” What is the Chemtrail Conspiracy theory? Quote:Chemtrail conspiracy theory is an unproven suspicion that long-lasting trails, so-called "chemtrails", are left in the sky by high-flying aircraft, and that they consist of chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed for sinister purposes undisclosed to the general public.[1] Source People who believe that chemicals are being sprayed in the air, are usually labeled conspiracy theorists. Yet we can see thru history how governments have been able to modify weather thru various means, so assuming chemtrails are real, more than likely aren't too far off the mark. Deny, deny, deny....that is our government's motto. RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 08-15-2016 HAARP
Ah yes, and what about HAARP? There are so many controversial claims surrounding HAARP, that anyone who says it can manipulate the environment are once again, called conspiracy theorists. However, many indications point to that yes, HAARP can be used to control part of the environment. But first, what is HAARP? HAARP: Quote:The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) was an ionospheric research program jointly funded by the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy, the University of Alaska[clarification needed], and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA),[1] designed and built by BAE Advanced Technologies (BAEAT). Source RESEARCH, THE GOAL: Quote:HAARP's main goal is basic science research of the uppermost portion of the atmosphere, termed the ionosphere. Essentially a transition between the atmosphere and the magnetosphere, the ionosphere is where the atmosphere is thin enough that the sun's X-rays and UV rays can reach it, but thick enough that there are still enough molecules present to absorb those rays. Consequently, the ionosphere consists of a rapid increase in density of free electrons, beginning at ~70 km, reaching a peak at ~300 km, and then falling off again as the atmosphere disappears entirely by ~1,000 km. Where the conspiracy theories come in to play is, there are many people who claim that HAARP is to blame for triggering catastrophes such as floods, droughts, hurricanes, thunderstorms, earthquakes in Iran, Pakistan, Haiti, Turkey, Greece and the Philippines, major power outages, the downing of TWA Flight 800, Gulf War syndrome, and chronic fatigue syndrome. Of course, the U.S. could never admit if HAARP was capable of triggering EQ in other countries, for that would be in violation of the U.N. treaty that was set forth in the 70's, stating that countries could not use weather as a weapon. Therefore, no way would the Military state otherwise. HAARP: Secret Weapon Used For Weather Modification, Electromagnetic Warfare Quote:HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) is a little-known, yet critically important U.S. military defense program which has generated quite a bit of controversy over the years in certain circles. Though denied by HAARP officials, some respected researchers allege that secret electromagnetic warfare capabilities of HAARP are designed to forward the US military’s stated goal of achieving full-spectrum dominance by the year 2020. Others go so far as to claim that HAARP can and has been used for weather modification, to cause earthquakes and tsunamis, to disrupt global communications systems, and more. --->>> (VIDEO) CBC of Canada's revealing video documentary on HAARP/ Part 1 Air Force Bombshell: Admits They Can Control Weather – HAARP Quote:While HAARP and weather control has been called a conspiracy theory by the mainstream media and government officials, during a Senate hearing on Wednesday, David Walker, deputy assistant secretary of the Air Force for science, technology and engineering, dropped a bombshell in answer to a question asked by Lisa Murkowski in relation to the dismantling of the $300 million High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program in Gakona this summer. About Project Seal: The United States and New Zealand conducted secret tests of a "tsunami bomb" designed to destroy coastal cities by using underwater blasts to trigger massive tidal waves Quote:The tests were carried out in waters around New Caledonia and Auckland during the Second World War and showed that the weapon was feasible and a series of 10 large offshore blasts could potentially create a 33-foot tsunami capable of inundating a small city. 'Tsunami Bomb' Created by US Military Quote:The military has a long and honorable history, but part of that history includes some weapons' experiments that in hindsight seem downright wacky, and some even evil. RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - guohua - 08-15-2016 Please continue,,,, Have you looked at this link? Link RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 08-15-2016 (08-15-2016, 05:38 AM)guohua Wrote: Please continue,,,, Thank you my friend! Yes, HAARP and the conspiracies surrounding it is what goes in the blank space above. Just had to take a break and now need to get my info together for that. Plus have some other stuff that I will be adding as well. Please feel free to add more information with links for people to view. Mainly trying to compile all the data we can get on weather control from the past to the present and what harm all this tampering around the globe with the environment might eventually do. I was astounded to see first of all, how many people do not know about weather modifying that has been going on for years and claim one is making it up when it is mentioned. Nor do they believe our government would do such a thing. And second, they do not know about how serious it got in the late 60's to early 70's about using weather as a weapon to the point the UN felt the need to step in. As I said, to be continued RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 08-15-2016 “Popular Science” Warns About “Weather As A Weapon” Quote:The cloud of disinformation and deception surrounding the ongoing climate engineering insanity is massive beyond true comprehension. The entirety of the climate science and meteorological communities have participated in this deception, whether willingly (for a paycheck and a pension), or due to threats like the recent "gag order" placed on all National Weather Service and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration employees by our government. Corporate media has, of course, done all they could to perpetuate the lies and deception, this is what they are paid to do. This is a narration from a June 1958 article in the issue of "Popular Science", that talks about weather being used as a weapon. "Control of earth weather AND temperature is within the realm of practicality now" ...and that statement was made a little over 50 years ago. So one can only imagine how far our military has come in messing with the weather in 2016. Including rising temperatures. Global warming anyone??? Nothing like blaming the populous and industries for the governments little experiments over the years, messing with mother nature. RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - BIAD - 08-15-2016 (08-15-2016, 08:43 AM)senona Wrote: “Popular Science” Warns About “Weather As A Weapon...” But wait! "Popular Mechanics" says: 'What you may not know is that a group of conspiracy theorists are dead set on proving that contrails are not just innocent ice crystals, but a government conspiracy to spray the populous with chemicals, what they call "chemtrails". Celebrities as diverse as Kylie Jenner and Billy Corgan have used Twitter to align themselves with the theory...' "...We wanted to establish a scientific record on the topic of secret atmospheric spraying programs for the benefit of those in the public who haven't made up their minds," Steven Davis, an Earth Systems scientist at UC Irvine said. "The experts we surveyed resoundingly rejected contrail photographs and test results as evidence of a large-scale atmospheric conspiracy..." SOURCE: ORIGINAL SOURCE: Okay, fair's-fair. So this is a con-trail...? "Despite the persistence of erroneous theories about atmospheric chemical spraying programs, until now there were no peer-reviewed academic studies showing that what some people think are 'chemtrails' are just ordinary contrails, which are becoming more abundant as air travel expands. Also, it is possible that climate change is causing contrails to persist for longer periods than they used to." Caldeira said. "I felt it was important to definitively show what real experts in contrails and aerosols think. We might not convince die-hard believers that their beloved secret spraying program is just a paranoid fantasy, but hopefully their friends will accept the facts." SOURCE: Surely with all these academics 'setting the record straight' we can now see that a nation's Government isn't lying... I mean, if they were doing something that they knew would outrage the populace, wouldn't they just tell us? 'Towing The Company Line' is a quote that comes to mind! RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 08-15-2016 Here is the thread that Melina did a while back when she stumbled upon this back in May... Government Quietly Admits to Weather Modification Program An article in the newspaper announcing their intentions on weather modification for a period of time RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - Mystic Wanderer - 08-16-2016 WOW! What an awesome thread! I don't have time to look at everything right now, but it is bookmarked for future reading. Thanks, @"senona" RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 10-16-2016 Solar Radiation Management, Geoengineering and Chemtrails
What is SRM? Quote:What would SMR involve? IPCC warns policymakers not to stop ‘solar radiation management’ despite it's long term side-effects. Quote:The Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) warns that, despite global side effects and long-term consequences, geoengineering techniques involving solar radiation management (SRM) should be maintained: Source Link RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 10-16-2016 I'm going to link Marlin's thread 'More Weather Modification Information' here as well, being as he has provided some more sources on weather modification. Some of which I have yet to check out yet, but I most definitely will! :smallwink: RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 11-29-2020 Weather Control as a Cold War Weapon
In the 1950s, some U.S. scientists warned that, without immediate action, the Sovet Union would control the earth’s thermometers Article from Dec. 5, 2011 Quote:In November 13, 1946 pilot Curtis Talbot, working for the General Electric Research Laboratory, climbed to an altitude of 14,000 feet about 30 miles east of Schenectady, New York. Talbot, along with scientist Dr. Vincent J. Schaefer, released three pounds of dry ice (frozen carbon dioxide) into the clouds. Since the 1950's, it is recorded and a known fact that Man has been playing with Mother Nature. And once again, it is a race to come out on top, even if it means dire consequences to Planet Earth in the near future. Our future.... Quote: August of 1953 the United States formed the President’s Advisory Committee on Weather Control. Its stated purpose was to determine the effectiveness of weather modification procedures and the extent to which the government should engage in such activities. Quote:In the May 25, 1958, issue of The American Weekly ran an article by Frances Leighton using information from Captain Howard T. Orville. The article, in no uncertain terms, described a race to see who would control the earth’s thermometers. The illustration that ran with the piece pictured an ominous looking satellite which could “focus sunlight to melt the ice in frozen harbors or thaw frosted crops — or scorch enemy cities.” Smithsonian Magazine And to only think of what countries, including the U.S. especailly, are capable of with the advanced technology. So when one says "climate change due to Man", well they may not be far from the truth. They just deflect the blame elsewhere, to shift any attention to Governments. And just like sheep, many people are gullible and naive to the guilt-trip shaming of how WE are harming the Earth by Government officials. RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - Ninurta - 11-29-2020 I didn't know it had been around quite that long, but I knew it had been around for a long time. I recall reading in 1980 or 1981 a report titled "Soviet Weather Warfare Plans". The Soviets, at that time, had plans and were investigating methods to use weather as a weapon by making the weather so miserable and unlivable around an opposing force that they were induced to stop fighting and surrender. RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - Wallfire - 11-29-2020 Weather control is something you can only use if you are the only person that has it. As soon as some one else gets it then it become under MAD, so I dont think anyone is using it now. But its very possible in the early day the tests got away from them giving some unexpected results. RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - senona - 11-29-2020 (11-29-2020, 10:20 AM)Wallfire Wrote: Weather control is something you can only use if you are the only person that has it. As soon as some one else gets it then it become under MAD, so I dont think anyone is using it now. But its very possible in the early day the tests got away from them giving some unexpected results. It is multiple governments, not just the U.S. In our country, sure it is more controlled now then it was. But still, since when have governments been 'honest' with the public when it comes to their black shadow projects? According to NOAA, mostly what is experimented with these days appears to be mostly cloud seeding.....mostly. Quote:In the late 1940's and 1950's many deemed "the deliberate or the inadvertent alteration of atmospheric conditions by human activity", also known as weather modification, as a promising science of the future. Currently, the most common form of weather modification is cloud seeding, which increases rain or snow, usually for the purpose of increasing the local water supply. Weather modification can also have the goal of preventing damaging weather, such as hail or hurricanes, from occurring. Of course, they are not going to announce any controversial experiments going on. But there are numerous projects still going on... Quote:Browse records in all searchable columns Project Designation Project Number Project Date Range Activity that contain start with end with are equal to Search SOURCE I would like to think there is no more "experimenting" with Mother Nature, but the skeptic in me says Nah, don't be a fool. Would explain their push for climate change, blaming people for it. When indirectly it could have something to do with multiple governments playing God with planet Earth for decades. Just my humble opinion, mind you. RE: The U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty......What is it - NightskyeB4Dawn - 11-30-2020 (11-29-2020, 11:08 PM)senona Wrote: I would like to think there is no more "experimenting" with Mother Nature, but the skeptic in me says Nah, don't be a fool. I would like to think that playing God, would yeild some very interesting and unexpected results. There are areas that have been wiped out, and reported that nothing would ever grow there again, because of radiation, or salt or chemical spills, for just a few years later without aide or presence of man, a new lush landscape has grown, with wildlife in abundance. I see the Earth as an amazing life form that is beyond ancient and will always self regenerate. I can't imagine why she had to remove the dinosaurs, but I am sure we have given her enough reason to remove us. |