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Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - senona - 05-20-2016 Quote:An ancient planet believed to have wiped out life on Earth millions of years ago is heading in our direction once again according to a top scientist. SOURCE Nemesis or Nibiru was widely dismissed as crackpot pseudo-science — until Planet Nine was identified in January by the California Institute of Technology. Evidence that Planet Nine exists in our Solar System And this new planet could be huge. Quote:Back in January, the astronomer who led the charge to have Pluto demoted to dwarf planet status announced that he’d just found evidence that a huge, icy planet could be lurking on the edge of the Solar System, just past Neptune. As it currently stands, there is now strong evidence, via the strange behaviours of seven known KBOs, that something huge is lurking in the far reaches of our Solar System. Regardless, Brown’s yet to write up his claims that this new KBO is being influenced by a huge, nearby planet, and until they have been peer-reviewed, they have to treat them as very preliminary findings...... For now Will be anxious to see what else they discover to either confirm the Planet 9 theory or find another plausible explanation for the odd behaviour of the KBO RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - 727Sky - 05-20-2016 There is a theory that every 26 to 27 million years there is an extinction event on planet earth.. OK... It is theorized that the newly almost found planet 9's orbit is 20,000 years to make it around the sun for a planet 9 solar year. It supposedly has a very inclined orbit compared to the other known planets. Jupiter has been hit this month by something which made the news and we did have two very close approaches by comet/debris in the last few months. If the orbit of planet nine perturbs the Kuiper belt's denizens as it approaches its closes point to the sun then .... well there you go... Poof.... no more B.S. because it may be over for mankind.. Also if Pluto was still a planet it would be number 9 and this new body would be 10 or roman numerical X... There you go for all those who miss the old planet "X" stuff ! Do I think we will meet our end by the end of this month... NO.... A Psyops works by putting out false information such as a date a couple of times and then people just figure it is another doom porn article or a weak conspiracy and disregard.. There is a reason for a Psyops; read on... People with big bucks and governments around the world have sure been doing allot of digging for underground bases and shelters from what we have been allowed to hear or read about.. Wonder if fore knowledge of something like planet 9s approach was a motivator ? Besides planet 9's mass which I have heard could be up to 1000 times that of earth (think brown dwarf however, probably closer to a Jupiter type size or smaller) with the probable gravitational effect on the solar system, think about the possibility of all the trash and maybe moons that are following this beast.. Then as it passes the Kuiper belt and picks up no telling how many sweepers (think of followers, like comets and asteroids) we could have a big target painted on planet earth and planet 9 is shooting several shotguns with slugs and double 0000... We do live in a solar shooting gallery and if not for our moon and Jupiter (which has a mass of around 318 earths which helps it act like a vacuum cleaner sucking up wayward trash) we would be an even larger target than we already are. If the world governments knew we were approaching an extinction event like some doom porn is hinting, do you think they would tell us ? Do you think the governments would think their populations would continue to work and pay taxes if they knew ? Forget touchy feely and what is right... would they tell us or just act like business as usual as they move into their deep underground bunkers.... only to emerge after we on the surface are fried green tomatoes ? Just thoughts and much could be wrong with this scenario but it still would make a decent 1950ish short story no ? RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Wrabbit2000 - 05-20-2016 I just looked this up and spent a little time digging, since these do interest me a lot for timing and past/deep historic events. Somewhere out there IS a little rock that has caused problems before, IMO, and will cause them again. Likely, it will appear on an orbit similar to Nine and Sedna, showing such a long transit period that we didn't even know it existed. It just doesn't appear to be this one...... Quote:Planet Nine likely has an elliptical orbit, coming within 200 to 300 astronomical units (AU) of the sun at its closest approach and getting as far away as 600 to 1,200 AU, Brown said. (One AU is the distance from Earth to the sun — about 93 million miles, or 150 million kilometers). Source Ouch... So we're 3,800 AU or distances from Earth to the Sun away from where this would actually interact with the Oort cloud debris or knock any of it inward and toward the inner planets? I hate it when physics interferes with a good story or conspiracy..but? Well, we have 3 areas of threat for things bumping into each other out there like pool balls. The inner Asteroid Belt (our main issue), the Kuiper Belt, which we already have 2 planets (and their moons) running in and out of on a regular basis now and the far more distant and more troublesome Oort cloud. To see how it lays out and why I am concerned on some but not others? Here is how it looks... Kuiper Belt: The Kuiper Belt/Oort Cloud Inner Asteroid Belt and Obstacles Most of what we get is Apollo class asteroids and other debris out of the belt seen in the image directly above. Most of it, anyway ..... The thing that bothers me is simply this. People, even experts it seems, think of space in 2 dimensions. Galactic Plane The problem is.....the largest threats (and most damaging impact in Earth's history) did not come from objects travelling "on-plane" but from directly BELOW us, in terms of 3-D thinking and in relation to our sense of up and down. Sedna and Nine are interesting ...but they aren't in any position to throw things UP at us, from below our South Pole. In fact, anything Sedna or Nine threw would have to pass through the complicated gravity fields of the inner planets/moons and that asteroid belt I noted above. All of that would be an obstacle course for an inbound object....unless......it came from a different direction. The Chicxulub Crater (Also known as the Yucatan Crater) is the one that killed the dinosaurs.It was believed to have been made by an impact of something roughly 6 miles or so in diameter. As we know, they suspect that 6 mile wide rock killed off the dominant species across the planet, as well as most lower forms of life at or around the same time. The crater in Antarctica came from a rock up to THIRTY MILES wide, and produced a subsurface crater/ridge some 300 MILES across. Quote:An apparent crater as big as Ohio has been found in Antarctica. Scientists think it was carved by a space rock that caused the greatest mass extinction on Earth, 250 million years ago. You know the largest problem? Given the state of Earth based observation and sky/space tracking of Near Earth Objects? I don't think they'd even see another one coming until it was far far past time to actually react, and simply prepare to take the hit with all it brought. ....among other things.... Sea levels would rise something like 200+ feet in a matter of the time it took for a flash melt and equalibrium to be restored for water levels in the South Pole region vs. the rest of the world. So, while looking outward? Never forget space is a 3-Dimensional place, and while most of our headaches come on plane to our orbital track (or so the media and stories give the impression)....The largest known impact point on Earth came from a totally unexpected direction, and not only wiped out life on land but killed most of what lived in the oceans at the time as well. Nice, happy thoughts on a Saturday....eh? RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - senona - 05-20-2016 Thanks for the images wrabbit, that helps to better visualize the layout of everything Yunno, this is where Mystic's thread about Top Secret Underground Bunkers comes into play. Not that they would have much time to make haste if an object is hurtling towards Earth being as it may not be noticed in time, but for some of them, they would have a "safe place" to go to depending on "where' it hit Earth RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Mystic Wanderer - 05-20-2016 Here is a great discussion on Planet X from Clyde Lewis on Ground Zero Media: LINK RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Wrabbit2000 - 05-20-2016 Indeed.... They would have a safe place for the impact. (smirk) I also laugh my tail off at the visual of the most important people in the world, as they realize the literal truth of being saved ONLY FROM the damage of impact. Something about being underground during the most violent upheavals for 10's of millions of years doesn't twirl my baton or float my boat. In fact... I dare say...a BOAT may be the safest thing to be on. A boat in the open ocean, as far from shallow waters as anyone can get. That...MAY...POSSIBLY...be a survivable position. I dunno tho....if tsunamis are generated, as in multiple, I'm not sure the shallow/deep matters that much anymore. What do conflicting tsunami waves do, when water doesn't compress or give at all...and the two forces have nothing but raw power to bring into the meeting? Anyway... I really do pity the idiots who go underground for geologic catastrophe. I may not fare better as a human on the surface...but at least I'll die knowing I didn't literally build and then choose to enter my own tomb. RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Mystic Wanderer - 05-20-2016 Yes, KARMA WILL SUCK FOR THEM! :smartass: RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - 727Sky - 05-20-2016 RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Mystic Wanderer - 05-20-2016 I have to give credit to the dark forces; they sure know how to keep the fear levels up in humanity! They're really good at putting these scenarios in the mind of the masses. They don't want people to know that it's our own thoughts that create our reality. If enough people think this is going to happen, the power of all those minds will make it so. The only way to divert it is for people to concentrate on it NOT happening, seeing the asteroids/meteors miss our planet in their mind's eye, and a beautiful Earth remaining when this is all over and done. Won't the "elite" be surprised when they come out of their deep dark holes to see that we survived without them? Maybe we should take this opportunity to lock the hatches so they never get out!!!!!!! RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Minstrel - 05-20-2016 Quote:Mystic Wanderer wrote: Or - maybe - we let them out to see that everything they had/owned has been taken by their (former) slaves. RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Wrabbit2000 - 05-20-2016 I am with Minstrel. The Elite have money..sure...and that money won't wipe an ass or fill a water glass when the underlying economies are a distant memory of a recent past which will never exist again. What the Elite also have are precious few in numbers. If every single person working for the Executive (working side) of the U.S. Government stood up at one time, as one group, with a single minded purpose? You'd have between 2 and 3 million warm bodies. That is every agent and employee from the FBI agents to the cooks serving the White House kitchen. EVERYONE. 2-3 million. That is all. Within our nation alone are somewhere well north of ONE HUNDRED MILLION firearms within private hands (That number was a factual reference clear back in 2011....and I have no idea what it may be now). Now, if 3 million people (every Government employee combined) stood against 300 million (and if it fell apart, just where would a Government agent FIND a "friendly" place in this nation right now?) then EACH ONE of those Government employees would have to average ONE HUNDRED people either killed, subdued, confirmed beyond question as loyal or otherwise reeducated. 100:1 for the MINIMUM RATIO, if EVERYONE did their jobs 100% right and missed NO ONE. ...and again...these aren't 3 million agents or law enforcement officers or thugs. This would call into service the cooks, janitors, secretaries, gate guards and screw ups from EVERY possible corner of the working U.S. Government for the singular purpose of subduing or containing unrest. ,,,,I,E,,,,to fear our Government as an individual? Well, that is wise and prudent. The power of the State can and will crush an individual person like a roach on a clean floor, under a combat boot. To fear the Government as people? That is absurd to the point of willingly handing those we'd fear, the very power they require to cause that fear in the first place. After all....at 100:1, as the best scenario? They have absolutely NO real world basis to project or support fear across the population as a whole. Just our willingly handing them our rational thinking and ability to analyze a situation with cold logic. Dats my story and I'm stickin to it! heh RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Mystic Wanderer - 05-20-2016 Could this be the beginning of what we have to look forward to in the next couple of weeks? Mysterious Blood Red Sky Baffles Residents of El Salvador
Quote:What is this mysterious red glow in the sky of Chalchuapa, El Salvador? The unexplained glow baffled residents on April 17, 2016. Could it be a meteor disintegrating red? No fireballs have been observed on this exact day at this exact time in El Salvador (although we are right in the middle of the Lyrid meteor shower). Source It looks the same as a meteor explosion to me, but if not, then could the red sky be a precursor to an earthquake? They had a 6.1 in Ecuador today. 6.1 Earthquake in Ecuador Things are about to get "interesting" I think RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - senona - 07-21-2016 UPDATE: Mysterious Planet Nine may have given our solar system its bizarre tilt The tilt of planet orbits could be explained by the tug of a Neptune-sized world Quote:The curious tilt of our solar system could be explained by the gravitational pull of Planet Nine – an elusive Neptune-sized world thought to orbit far beyond Pluto. Quote:The orbit of minor planet Sedna, and of hundreds of trans-Neptunian objects, defy mathematical predictions unless a substantial, but so far, invisible object is affecting them. There is also a Brazilian team of astronomers that used a different analytical method to reach a similar conclusion – and believes its calculations can help pinpoint the elusive object. Quote:Rodney Gomes of the Brazilian Observatorio Nacional said his team's calculations give an "elegant explanation for the current tilt between the invariant plane of the inner giant planets and the solar equator, and add new constraints to the orbital elements of Planet Nine". RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Ninurta - 07-22-2016 (05-20-2016, 08:20 AM)Wrabbit2000 Wrote: Galactic Plane Thinking in 3 dimensions when dealing with space is not just a great idea, it's an imperative. The problem is, all of the various angles involved are incredibly complex... and they change over time and in periodic cycles. The graphic above is wrong. The ecliptic (plane of the solar system) is not nearly as flat to the plane of the galaxy as is shown in it. In reality, the plane of the ecliptic is tilted 62 degrees with respect to the plane of the Milky Way, and rotated with respect to a ray coming from the center to the edge. Then you have the slight tilt of the earth's orbital plane against the plane of the solar system (which is a lot closer to the graphic shown), and the tilt of the Earth's axis at about 24 degrees to the orbital plane... and the slight tilt of the Moon's orbit with respect to the earth's equator (which, remember, is tilted about 24 degrees from the ecliptic, since it is 90 degrees from the rotation axis), and you begin to see what an incredibly choreographed dance the various orbits interplay at. Over time, all these various orbit "wobble", like a top winding down as it spins, changing the available directions for rock balls to come from without interference, The area of danger is more like interacting cone shapes, which, when they overlap at times, creates higher probabilities of approach in the overlapping parts of the various cones. I only know these things because that was a part of what I worked on primarily at the university, when I was taking astronomy and physics. My particular area was mapping space in 3 dimensions for future navigational purposes. I finally settled on the galactic plane as the most useful local frame of reference for mapping purposes. Once you get away from Earth, the reference systems we use here, primarily the ecliptic, become more and more irrelevant. The only system that stays constant with respect to the stars themselves is the galactic system. It doesn't change whether you're at Earth or at the eagle nebula. As all these various objects orbit, the gravity fields dance, too. They merge, they split, they interact and influence one another. Sometimes they add together and create a lane of intensity, some times the cancel one another out and create voids, and all of this complexity goes to create go and no-go zones for wandering objects. Sometimes those go and no-go zones will funnel a really big rock right to the place you don't want it to be, and vaporized dinosaurs can be the result. It's a crap shoot, the luck of the draw, about like riding an SUV down highway one into Baghdad, and wondering where the IED is that has your name on it is. Except in 3D. RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Ninurta - 07-22-2016 (05-20-2016, 08:29 AM)Wrabbit2000 Wrote: I dunno tho....if tsunamis are generated, as in multiple, I'm not sure the shallow/deep matters that much anymore. What do conflicting tsunami waves do, when water doesn't compress or give at all...and the two forces have nothing but raw power to bring into the meeting? Tsunamis are waves, and they follow the physics of waves. Waves have peaks and troughs. When two peaks collide, they create a higher peak, when two troughs collide, they create a deeper trough, and when a peak and a trough collide, they cancel one another out and the result can be calculated from the height of the peak and the depth of the trough, with the final outcome being weighted towards whichever had the greater magnitude, but in any event less extreme for height or depth than in either of the first two scenarios. Aboard a boat is the safest place to be, since it will ride the surface of any of those outcomes - it will just ride higher or lower, but still ride. What you have to worry about are rogue waves which, if encountered broadside by the boat, can flip it over. Also, if you're too close to a land mass, a tsunami will carry the cute little boat you're on several miles inland, then smash it to bits on whatever inland rocks you may encounter. That can't be good for whomever is on the boat. RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - guohua - 07-22-2016 I found a recent video. Quote:Published on Jul 20, 2016 RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - Mystic Wanderer - 07-22-2016 Oh dear! More doom porn to watch. Nope, not before bedtime. I'll check out the videos tomorrow... maybe. RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - senona - 10-21-2016 *UPDATE* 'Planet Nine' Can't Hide Much Longer, Scientists Say Scientists who have been studying and researching the elusive Planet 9, think that it may be discovered by next winter - 2017. Quote:Planet Nine's days of lurking unseen in the dark depths of the outer solar system may be numbered. The possible existence of Planet 9 first came about in 2014, put forth by astronomers Scott Sheppard and Chadwick Trujillo, of the Carnegie Institution for Science in Washington, D.C., and the Gemini Observatory in Hawaii, respectively. Quote:Sheppard and Trujillo noted that the dwarf planet Sedna, the newfound object 2012 VP113 and several other bodies far beyond Pluto share certain odd orbital characteristics, a coincidence that would make sense if their paths through space had been shaped by an unseen, giant "perturber" in the region. Astronomers have said Planet Nine is perhaps four times wider than Earth, and such an object would be easily visible with professional-grade equipment if it were relatively close to Earth, Brown explained. Quote:"This is well within reach of the giant telescopes," he said. "The Subaru telescope, I think, on Mauna Kea, [in Hawaii] — the Japanese national telescope — is the prime instrument for doing the search. But there are a lot of other people who have clever ideas on how to find it, too, that are trying with their own telescopes." Sure he says that whoever discovers the planet when the time comes, it won't matter who gets credit, being as they all just want it found. However, deep down, one has got to hope that 'they' are the ones to make the wonderful discovery of finding the elusive Planet 9 when the time comes. What an exhilarating moment that would be, truly! To know you changed what we know of our planets forever. RE: Scientists just found more evidence that Planet 9 exists - guohua - 10-22-2016 Something may very well be going on, they reported that Juno the Juniper probe has had to shut down it's camera and other sensors. OK, is there something there they don't want us to see or I should say, Accidently see when they don't Photoshop a Picture correctly. Quote:Nasa announces Juno craft circling gas giant had to shut down camera and instruments, while ESA says Schiaparelli lander may have crashed on red planetPerfect timing,,,, don't ya think? Quote:Nasa’s Juno space probe orbiting Jupiter went into “safe mode” with cameras and instruments offline just as it prepared to pass over the immense planet’s dense cloud tops, the space agency said.Source |