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Kiss Hong Kong goodbye - 727Sky - 08-14-2019 https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/08/13/u-s-intelligence-positions-hong-kong-as-proxy-conflict-with-china-thankfully-president-trump-sees-trap/#more-168200 Quote:U.S. Intelligence Positions Hong Kong as Proxy Conflict With China – Thankfully President Trump Sees Trap… RE: Kiss Hong Kong goodbye - Ninurta - 08-15-2019 That's a pretty excellent analysis. It does seem to me that Hong Kong is a game piece in some international chess. All of the Usual Suspects, as mentioned, will agitate for US involvement, when the only winning move is to not get involved and instead apply the fate of Mainland China to Hong Kong as well when push comes to shove. The mentioned "Usual Suspects" are not all Left Wingers - on the surface. John Bolton for one. he's supposed to be a Republican, isn't he? But he's not. He's a Neocon, a "former" left wing faction seeking to complete a takeover of the Republicans. It was Irving Kristol, I believe, the father of the Neocon Conspiracy, who outright stated that Neocons are liberals who grew a conscience, or something like that. They are NOT Conservatives, and had they succeeded in taking over the republican party (which they nearly did, and still might), then we would be governed by a single party under two separate names. All of the name-calling and apparent animosity between liberals and Neocons was just for show, to try to distance the two in hopes of pulling the wool over Conservative eyes. The same applies here - all of the name-calling, gnashing of teeth, and talk of intervention by US "Progressives" like Pelosi, Cortez, and Schumer will be for show, in an attempt to distance them from the Communist Party of China. Same goes for neocons like Bolton. They expect they can divide and conquer by making a show of division where there really is no division. By talking the US into a display of intervention, they would put the US at a severe disadavantage in the Bigger Game afoot. The overall goal here is Globalist. They want to rule one big unified Earth, all under the Globalist banner, with a Communist political structure for all. . RE: Kiss Hong Kong goodbye - BIAD - 08-15-2019 Here's an interesting view of China's control regarding Hong Kong and may explain the UK's balefulness with what's happening in one of its past colonies. RE: Kiss Hong Kong goodbye - 727Sky - 05-22-2020 Most of us knew it was coming we just needed to figure out how it would be forced down the throats of the citizens of Hong Kong. IMO Thacher should have made the offer of British citizenship to the inhabitants of Hong Kong when she gave the Island back to The communist country of mainland China but she believed (just as many did) that a one country two government rule would work as China would be more civilized and westernized given time. At least Briton could have had a hard working bunch of people from Hong Kong instead of the many uneducated free loaders from the M.E... Yes a different time back then as the west thought if we helped the CCP they would become more western and civilized.. That sounded great obviously as many believed it would work... In reality all it did was embolden the CCP/PLA to do as they please to whom they please... Now the question becomes what the west will end up doing as far as trade agreements with Hong Kong (no tariffs) as China seems to be out of favor at present.. Quote:BEIJING: China's parliament said Thursday it will introduce a proposal for a national security law in Hong Kong at its annual session, in a move likely to stoke unrest in the financial hub.https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1922096/china-parliament-eyes-hong-kong-national-security-law-after-unrest COVID slowed the game plan down but it was never shelved with regard to the crack down....IMO Much of S.E. Asia pussy foots around anything that might be considered negative about the CCP. IMO they have to to a certain extent as China's trade and tourist account for billions of dollars in GDP. It is not nice to mess with the CCP as they have a habit of black balling anyone who even frowns at them. China to impose sweeping national security law in Hong Kong, bypassing city's legislature Quote:HONG KONG - China's Communist Party will impose a sweeping national security law in Hong Kong by fiat during the annual meeting of its top political body, officials said Thursday, criminalizing "foreign interference" along with secessionist activities and subversion of state power.Other than doing something about the tariffs along with the favorable banking and trading agreements just what does anyone expect the USA or other western powers to do other than blow hot air ? Bad situation and I truly am sorry for the people of Hong Kong who know what freedom from the CCP/PLA means. I have spent some time in Hong Kong back in the 70s and had a great time. The people were hard working straight forward more like the Taiwanese than the mainland communist control freaks. I have friends who have done manufacturing in mainland China one of them yesterday said if someone nuked the CCP headquarters during a meeting China would be 10,000 better off.... I would say he is not a CCP/PLA respecter or lover by any stretch ! https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/China-signals-plan-to-take-full-control-of-Hong-15285627.php RE: Kiss Hong Kong goodbye - Wallfire - 05-22-2020 I think this is a way that the CCP is trying to draw attention away from the virus. If they do "invade" HK the world will move back to the old "TUT TUT bad people" and do nothing. At the moment the world is very pissed off at the CCP and many countries are pulling out of China and starting to build everything they need at home. Or perhaps the CCP fear a revolution at home and want to show the people they still have teeth. I dont know but it looks like no matter what the poor Chinese people will have to suffer once again. RE: Kiss Hong Kong goodbye - guohua - 05-22-2020 The Liberals will claim this is to protect the Hong Kong Peoples from the Virus. RE: Kiss Hong Kong goodbye - 727Sky - 05-25-2020 With facing up to 4 years in jail or worse you gotta hand it to the citizens of Hong Kong for not bending over and taking it from the CCP. Problem is, signs and chants do not do much to deter a determined police force or a military tasked with breaking up any protest.. www.cnn.com... Updated 1212 GMT (2012 HKT) May 24, 2020 Quote:Protesters march along a downtown street during a pro-democracy protest against Beijing's national security legislation in Hong Kong, Sunday, May 24, 2020. They were met with water cannons and tear gas in many cases after the government called the protest illegal.. China has the fastest laws in the east if anyone does something they do not approve of IMO...But they only make the laws if someone is watching...just ask the Uyghars. The only reason it has taken the CCP this long to move against Hong Kong is world opinion and the money this would have cost them IMO. At one time Hong Kong was a big slice of China's GDP 18% and now because of the mainland China's growth Hong Kong only represents 3%. www.vox.com... Quote:When China gained control of Hong Kong in 1997, it represented an economically significant addition to the territory under Beijing's control. Mainland China had almost 200 times as many people as Hong Kong, yet they did not even produce six times as much stuff. In the 17 years since the handover, though, the Chinese economy has grown a lot faster than Hong Kong's economy has: I wish them luck in Hong Kong but.... I would not put money on a positive outcome for the residents as I have total faith in the ruthlessness of the CCP/PLA. |