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Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - BIAD - 04-11-2019 As the queue for Homo-recognition slowly dwindles and Bigfoot rechecks his ticket number, some more relatives are found. Quote:Bones found in Philippines cave reveal new human species.SKY News: RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - Mystic Wanderer - 04-11-2019 That's pretty interesting news right there. Wonder if BIAD recognizes any of them? RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - BIAD - 02-16-2020 The science of who we were and are now, continues. If they find a cave-painting of someone with big norks and a red dress, then I guess there'll be a phone call coming. Quote:Scientists find evidence for mysterious ‘ghost population’ that rewrites human historyThe Express: RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - guohua - 02-16-2020 A Fifth of their DNA came from Missing Relatives?? Was this Annunaki DNA, Draco (Lizard people) DNA? Would they tell us the Truth? RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - BIAD - 02-16-2020 (02-16-2020, 03:58 PM)guohua Wrote: A Fifth of their DNA came from Missing Relatives?? Yes... apparently there was someone out there waiting with a better Discotheque and a Zippo-lighter! But it's best to not suggest who these... no.... NO, don't say it!! Quote:Was this Annunaki DNA, Draco (Lizard people) DNA? You went and said it. Quote:Would they tell us the Truth? I think so. Anyway, the television will tell us. RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - Mystic Wanderer - 02-16-2020 I used to work with someone who looked just like a Neanderthal. I always wondered if he descended from that tribe. This was years ago, and he was pretty old then; I bet he's gone now. I'd love to get some of his DNA to test. RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - BIAD - 02-16-2020 (02-16-2020, 05:01 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: I used to work with someone who looked just like a Neanderthal. I always wondered if he descended from that tribe. I went to school with an older kid who was the pot-model of a Neanderthal...! In fact, in a long tale of how I visited a Pentecostal church in order to be taught how to play the guitar, I actually saw this same caveman -looking young man stand up and begin to speak 'in foreign tongue'!!! The guy who tricked my friends and I into going to the church cajoled us into one of their prayer-meetings and guess what... I never learned to play the guitar! But he did look like a stereotypical Neanderthal! RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - guohua - 02-16-2020 (02-16-2020, 04:30 PM)BIAD Wrote:(02-16-2020, 03:58 PM)guohua Wrote: A Fifth of their DNA came from Missing Relatives?? WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Okay,,,,,,,,,,, RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - Wallfire - 02-17-2020 I dont know if this is another version of the same story Quote:'Ghost population' of ancient humans may have mated with ancestors of modern humanssource RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - gordi - 02-17-2020 (02-16-2020, 05:01 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: I used to work with someone who looked just like a Neanderthal. I always wondered if he descended from that tribe. Eeeewwww!!!!! No, hang on.... RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - gordi - 02-17-2020 I'm a bit confused.... If a "Ghost Population" mated with "the ancestors of modern humans" and their DNA is still present in modern humans.... then aren't THEY TOO "the ancestors of modern humans"?? I mean, your great great great great grannie is still your great great great great grannie whether she's from a different race or not, isn't she?? We are a "melting pot" of ALL of our ancestors, no? (Even the lizard ones...!) G RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - BIAD - 02-17-2020 (02-17-2020, 11:59 AM)gordi Wrote: I'm a bit confused.... I would think so, we're not talking about a lot of years in terms of the age of the planet, but one of the problems we have is our perception of anthropology as a science, yet the reality is it's open to interpretation. The 'Clovis' debate (believed to have been mammoth hunters, likely arrived via the Bering land bridge that once linked Asia and Alaska) is still being held onto in regards of the Americas, but there's evidence that humans were inhabiting that continent long before the unshaven spear-throwers got there. Who they were is still in debate and it hints that humans were all over the place and in different times, but this damages an accepted theory. So it comes down to rationalising with the limited evidence we have and since the Australopithecus anamensis recently found in Ethiopia cranks our lineage back to 3.8 million years (beating Lucy of 3.2 million age), the space between apes and man becomes more cloudy! Australopithecus anamensis. So who's to say when tribes of similar upright apes split-up and decided to comb their hair differently...? Let's be candid, where they originated is only based on where the fragments are discovered! It's a jigsaw that will possibly show us a description of ourselves as a species that we never guessed at and maybe not want to know. As you say, we are a 'melting pot' of ancestors and I find it ironic that we're currently live in a society that likes to throw insults around of race and gender, when the only concerns the poor chap above would've had was whether he was going to be alive the next morning! We all came from somewhere and in a small amount of time, we're told that we evolved into the only creature that can destroy the planet it lives on. Quite a title to be proud of...I don't think. The 'Ghost' ancestors might show us that we were capable of much more and the real way of interacting as a species. Of course, grab yourself a Bigfoot body and all of it goes out of the window! RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - Ninurta - 02-18-2020 I've been informally studying prehistoric people and DNA for a very long time now, and believe this sort of acts as confirmation for a theory I've had for several years. Modern science says that modern humans originated in Africa, and dispersed throughout the world from there around 60,000 years ago, and I believe that to be bunk. The only reason so many academics are jumping on that particular bandwagon is because of the political correctness associated with all of humanity emerging from Africa. Like climate "science", paleo-anthropology has been infected by politics. It seems clear to me that modern humans originated somewhere in Central Asia or the Middle East around 240,000 to 280,000 years ago, and went in all directions from there instead of "out of Africa". They were already fairly well spread (they were already in Australia, for instance) before or at least by the time they are supposed to have started trickling out of Africa. All modern non-Africans carry some amount of Neanderthal DNA, but none of it is found in Africa. Africans, in contrast, all carry DNA from "ghost populations" that is only found in Africans, meaning they must have interbred there after modern humans arrived in Africa via the Middle East, and that "ghost population" DNA is not found in non-African populations. The only thing the two have in common are their "modern human" DNA, and both are hybrids between Modern Humans and separate varieties of archaic peoples. That indicates to me that Modern Humans could not have originated in either Africa or Eurasia, and must instead have originated somewhere between the two. That leaves only Central Asia or the Middle East as potential points of origin for a dispersal in both directions for the subsequent admixture with "not quite humans" that we carry in our DNA to this day. I've thought this for quite a while now, and point to the Dmanisi (Georgia) people as potential precursors of modern humans rather than any relict African populations. We are ALL hybrids between humans and not-quite-humans, but different types of not-quite-humans. That would make at least Africans and Non-Africans different races in actuality, despite the fact that modern Anthropology says emphatically that there is no such thing as race among humans. I think the evidence clearly points otherwise, despite the politically correct and politically infected stance of current "science". I myself am a hybridized mongrel. Most of my DNA is European, but it also contains Central Asian, South Asian, American Indian, and - surprise! - West African (DNA indications point to Nigeria). I have more Neanderthal DNA than 75% of living people. The only people I know with more Neanderthal DNA are my son and Grace. Now, with this discovery, and considering the Nigerian DNA I carry, there is a good chance that I also carry some of the DNA from this (or these) "ghost population(s)" from Africa as well. Grace has no African DNA, and none of mine got passed on to any of the kids, so that DNA dies with me. Around 0.1% of my DNA is unidentifiable with current technology. maybe that's the Annunaki part. P.S. - according to the story, West Africans carry between 1/50th and 1/5th of their DNA from these ghost populations. Those are the extremes - none had less than 1/50th, none had more than 1/5th. The average in those populations is somewhere between those two extremes. Not all of them are 1/5 "other hominid". In contrast, non-Africans carry between 1/100th and 1/25th or so Neanderthal DNA. Melanesians are up to 1/16th Denisovan. . RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - Ninurta - 02-18-2020 (02-17-2020, 11:59 AM)gordi Wrote: I'm a bit confused.... Technically speaking, according to modern archaeology everything going back to Dryopithecus (and beyond, I suppose, to a single celled organism in the oceans of 3.8 Billion years ago) are "ancestors of modern humans". I believe they worded it that way to differentiate between "modern humans", which no modern humans apparently are a pure version of - so tecnically "modern humans" are an extinct species - and these other hominid species. Think about that a moment. According to current science, no modern humans still survive to the present, MODERN, day... or else, if they do, then so do Neanderthals, Denisovans, and these unidentified "ghost species". Modern humans exist only as ancestral to... modern humans, but do not themselves still survive! And with are Neanderthals, Denisovans, and "ghost species" of humans. . RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - Ninurta - 02-18-2020 (02-17-2020, 12:30 PM)BIAD Wrote: The 'Clovis' debate (believed to have been mammoth hunters, likely arrived via the Bering land bridge that Clovis yet lives. My DNA was compared to Clovis DNA (the Anzick Child from a burial in Montana), and I'm related to Clovis. But you are correct - there were already people here when Clovis arrived. Clovis is only about 12,000 years old, but there were people here in Virginia at Cactus Hill 17,000 years ago, at Meadowcroft Pennsylvania 19,000 years ago, and there are remains of a mastodon hunt just across the mountain in Saltville, Virginia from between 14,500 and 15,000 years ago. All long before Clovis. A picture of a Columbian mammoth was found engraved on a bone in Florida some years ago, but I'm not sure how old it was determined to be... but it's a Columbian mammoth, and so has to be pretty old! In South America, there is a camp site in Argentina claimed to be between 30,000 and 35,000 years old, and north of the Amazon River in Brazil there is a rock shelter that it is claimed people related to Australian Aborigines lived at between 30,000 and 40,000 years ago. They would have had to have been in the Americas for quite some time before that in order to have filtered all the way down to South America. That's a long walk from here, y'know? Quote:So who's to say when tribes of similar upright apes split-up and decided to comb their hair differently...? I part mine right down the middle of my back... Quote:Of course, grab yourself a Bigfoot body and all of it goes out of the window! What would you trade for one? . RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - BIAD - 02-18-2020 (02-18-2020, 05:46 AM)Ninurta Wrote: In South America, there is a camp site in Argentina claimed to be between 30,000 and 35,000 years old, and north of the Amazon River in Brazil there is a rock shelter that it is claimed people related to Australian Aborigines lived at between 30,000 and 40,000 years ago. They would have had to have been in the Americas for quite some time before that in order to have filtered all the way down to South America. That's a long walk from here, y'know?It is a bit of a hike! The ever-faithful -but not always accurate, Wikipedia states the Neanderthals called it a day around 40,000 years-ago after failing to adapt to... new parasites from homo-sapiens, new technology, having a poorer gait and the overthrow via inter-breeding. These shambling brutes of Europe, because that's where the some sparse remains have been found (apparently Neanderthals weren't one for vacationing in warmer climes?), struggled to compete with the ever-go-lucky new boys on the block and hence, died out under all the theories of cleverer men than you and I. (By the way, I totally agree with your statement that paleo-anthropology has been infected by politics.) So since all that was going on and Quantas hadn't been invented, how did these Australian Aborigines take time out of shaking their heads at the Upper Paleolithic bullying and playing with boomerangs, and visit South America in order to erect rock shelters? Was Epstein's private-jet around even back then? I dare say that It seems these fur-wearing Flintsone-like peoples aren't playing to the rules, it seems that they didn't get the memo regarding modern-day lore of cavemen. Unless, the reality is... nah, I never went to university, so what do I know. No, let's just put it down to these folk -north of the Amazon River in Brazil, are just not educated enough to realise that the ability to travel vast distances belongs to modern-man and leave it at that. Gaawd... stop ruining the narrative. Quote:What would you trade for one? [Bigfoot carcass] I have no idea and don't wish to know what's buried in those mounds on your property. RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - Ninurta - 02-18-2020 (02-18-2020, 10:41 AM)BIAD Wrote: It is a bit of a hike! That 40,000 years ago figure for the Neanderthal demise is one of those "adjustments" that have recently been made to bring paleoanthropology into the political fold. It had to be changed to fit into the new narrative, and someone waved a wand and presto-chango! the change was made. Neanderthals actually "died out" (excepting their surviving genes in New Man) between 24,000 and 28,000 years ago. However, such a recent date for their demise does not underscore the danger and violence inherent in New Man or Orange Man (take your pick - they seem to be one and the same very dangerous thing) if we allowed them to survive and peacefully co-existed with them (VERY peacefully - we exchanged genetic material, and there is only one way THAT happens!) for a whole 17,000 to 21,000 years after we arrived in Europe 45,000 years ago (from Africa, of course - El Al apparently had flights even back then. Someone had to cover for Quantas' shortcomings!) Quote:So since all that was going on and Quantas hadn't been invented, how did these Australian Aborigines take time out I think it is likely that Australian Aborigines may represent the closest we currently have to "original" Modern Human, that they likely originated in Central or South Asia, and migrated outward from there - including to the Americas. They retained most of their original character only in Australia because of their isolation there. Everywhere else, they interbred with local variants of Modern Human, and that original character changed over time into what we have today. I will note here that before they arrived in Australia, they also interbred with Neanderthals and Denisovans both, which is likely to have changed them a bit from what originally was. Other local variants developed in Europe, Asia, and possibly Africa, changing those populations a bit further from the originals, along with their interbreeding with more "primitive" varieties of human which survived a little longer in those areas, changing them even further into the variants we have today. Quote:I dare say that It seems these fur-wearing Flintsone-like peoples aren't playing to the rules, it seems that they didn't get I'm told that because of the physics of wing area vs. body mass, bumble bees cannot actually fly. However, no one has told bumble bees that, and so they fly along blissfully unaware of their limitations. Perhaps no one told the Aborigines that they can't get here from there, and so they did anyhow, on their own terms blissfully unaware of the limitations we place upon them? Quote:Quote:What would you trade for one? [Bigfoot carcass] Well, ya can't just leave them laying around, y'know? It might scare the children! . RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - BIAD - 02-18-2020 (02-18-2020, 09:40 PM)Ninurta Wrote: That 40,000 years ago figure for the Neanderthal demise is one of those "adjustments" that have recentlyI don't mind if adjustments are made during learning where we came from, it's just the damned righteous and definitive manner science does it. Thousands of people state they see a tall hairy biped in the 'New World' and same scientists say "Nah...it's not my list", so you're a lair". That's what pisses me off, the 'I've-got-letters-after-my-name' attitude and the rules are my rules. RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - Ninurta - 02-18-2020 (02-18-2020, 09:59 PM)BIAD Wrote:(02-18-2020, 09:40 PM)Ninurta Wrote: That 40,000 years ago figure for the Neanderthal demise is one of those "adjustments" that have recentlyI don't mind if adjustments are made during learning where we came from, it's just the damned righteous and I made the following addition to my post above before I read this, and so am moving it to this post instead: Alternate "human species" have survived longer than expected in various corners of the world. On Flores, the Indonesian "Hobbit" survived until about 11,000 years ago. Some believe it to be a relict Homo Erectus modified by island dwarfism to be a more diminutive species. Recent research points out, however, that the Hobbit foot is more Australopithecine than Homo Erectus, so the jury is still out. An alternate species of human survived in the Phillipines until at least 17,000 years ago. Myra Shackley believes that the Almas or Almasty variant of "bigfoot" in the Caucasus is a relict population of Neanderthal that survied until the modern day, or at least until very recently. She also believes that Neanderthals survived in the Altai, on the edge of the Gobi Desert, until now or recently. The Indonesian Hobbit of Flores may explain the Orang Pendek reports from Southease Asia if it survived beyond 11,000 years ago. There are stranger things in heaven and Earth than may be dreamt of in our philosophies... There are those who believe that the America Bigfoot may be a surviving population of the Chinese Gigantopithecus, and of course if such could make it to America, there is nothing to prevent it from also spreading in Eurasia, as there is no land-bridge to have to negotiate in that direction! I think that the various reports of hairy "people" may in fact be ancient survivals that no one has actually quantified yet because, well, they just don't believe in them, and therefore see no need to quantify 'em! Myra Shackley wrote a book on the subject some time ago that had a name similar to "Still Living?" I'll have to look it up and change it as necessary in this post. ETA: Ms. Shackley's book is titled "Still Living?: Yeti, Sasquatch and the Neanderthal Enigma" Her Wkipage A blog about her An article on Yeti vs. relict survivals . RE: Another Branch Of Humans Discovered. - BIAD - 02-18-2020 (02-18-2020, 10:06 PM)Ninurta Wrote: ...Alternate "human species" have survived longer than expected in various corners of the world... Oh I agree. I've been trying to find a strange account that occurred a couple of years ago in the area just east of York and towards the North Sea coast of England. The whole area is just fields, farmhouses and small villages. Apparently, a woman was sitting in the passenger seat of her husband's car when -as they neared a roundabout, she looked to her left and witnessed two beings that she described as Neanderthals! Staring out of a clump of bushes and trees near one of those villages with quaint weird names, these two males -that the woman believed were father and son, seemed to be waiting for the road to clear of vehicles before moving off. Scanning the fuzzy-faced, gawping 'cavemen', she stated they were not covered in thick hair, but seemed to wear a cloth or fur-skin. So she told her husband to drive the car around the roundabout, travel back up the road they'd come from and then return to the place she'd seen them. Not wanting to make his own dinner and forego any chance of his leg-over (All men know this), he did as he was asked! After explaining to her partner what she'd observed, the pair eventually arrived back at the place where she'd first seen these so-called 'Neanderthals', but there was nobody there. Cave-men in the 21st century tiny country of Britain...? Science says not. |