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  5-Minute Management Course
Posted by: 727Sky - 06-11-2018, 01:13 PM - Forum: Off Topic - Replies (1)

Quote:Lesson 1:
A man is getting into the shower just as his wife is finishing up her shower, when the doorbell rings.
The wife quickly wraps herself in a towel and runs downstairs.
When she opens the door, there stands Bob, the next-door neighbor.
Before she says a word, Bob says, 'I'll give you $800 to drop that towel..'
After thinking for a moment, the woman drops her towel and stands naked in front of Bob, after a few seconds, Bob hands her $800 and leaves.
The woman wraps back up in the towel and
goes back upstairs.

When she gets to the bathroom, her husband asks, 'Who was that?'
'It was Bob the next door neighbor,' she replies. 'Great,' the husband says, 'did he say anything about the $800 he owes me?'

Moral of the story:
If you share critical information pertaining to credit and risk with your shareholders in time, you may be in a position to prevent avoidable exposure.

Lesson 2:
A priest offered a Nun a lift.
She got in and crossed her legs, forcing her gown to reveal a leg.
The priest nearly had an accident
After controlling the car, he stealthily slid his hand up her leg..
The nun said, 'Father, remember Psalm 129?'
The priest removed his hand But, changing gears, he let his hand slide up her leg again.The nun once again said, 'Father, remember Psalm 129?'
The priest apologized 'Sorry sister but the flesh is weak.'
Arriving at the convent, the nun sighed heavily and went on her way.
On his arrival at the church, the priest rushed to look up Psalm 129. It said, 'Go forth and seek, further up, you will find glory.'

Moral of the story:
If you are not well informed in your job, you might miss a great opportunity.
Lesson 3:
A sales rep, an administration clerk, and the manager are walking to lunch when they find an antique oil lamp.
They rub it and a Genie comes out.
The Genie says, 'I'll give each of you just one wish.''Me first! Me first!' says the admin clerk. 'I want to be in the Bahamas , driving a speedboat, without a care in the world.'Puff! She's gone.
'Me next! Me next!' says the sales rep. 'I want to be in Hawaii , relaxing on the beach with my personal masseuse, an endless supply of Pina Coladas and the love of my life.'
Puff! He's gone.
'OK, you're up,' the Genie says to the manager.The manager says, 'I want those two back in the office after lunch.'
Moral of the story:
Always let your boss have the first say.
Lesson 4:
An eagle was sitting on a tree resting, doing nothing.
A small rabbit saw the eagle and asked him, 'Can I also sit like you and do nothing?'The eagle answered: 'Sure, why not.'
So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the eagle and rested. All of a sudden, a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it.
Moral of the story:
To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very, very high up.
Lesson 5:
A turkey was chatting with a bull.
'I would love to be able to get to the top of that tree' sighed the turkey, 'but I haven't got the energy.''Well, why don't you nibble on some of my droppings?' replied the bull. They're packed with nutrients.'
The turkey pecked at a lump of dung, and found it actually gave him enough strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree
The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second branch.
Finally after a fourth night, the turkey was proudly perched at the top of the tree.
He was promptly spotted by a farmer, who shot him out of the tree.
Moral of the story:
Bull Shit might get you to the top, but it won't keep you there..

Lesson 6:

A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird froze and fell to the ground into a large field.
While he was lying there, a cow came by and dropped some dung on him.
As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, he began to realize how warm he was.
The dung was actually thawing him out!
He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy.A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate..
Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him.
Morals of the story:
(1) Not everyone who shits on you is your enemy.
[i](2) Not everyone who gets you out of shit is your friend..

(3) And when you're in deep shit, it's best to keep your mouth shut!

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Posted by: Wallfire - 06-11-2018, 12:48 PM - Forum: European Union - Replies (2)

People should remember that this man has also stated that Europe belongs to muslims, and that he will protect muslims in Europe.
Remember also that the EU is thinking about letting Turkey in to Europe. Fun times for all Europe soon to be had

Quote:Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan predicted “a war” between Christianity and Islam on Saturday after the Austrian government announced it will shut down seven Turkish nationalist mosques in Vienna and possibly expel up to 60 imams.

“You do this and we sit idle? It means we will take some steps too,” Erdogan said in a speech in Istanbul.
“These measures taken by the Austrian chancellor are, I fear, leading the world towards a war between the cross and the crescent,” he continued, according to the German newspaper Die Welt.
Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz’s decision Friday to shut down several extremist mosques and to dissolve an organization called the Arab Religious Community angered Erdogan, an Islamist who considers the Muslim Brotherood an ally. (RELATED: Erdogan Rages Over French Leaders’ Statements On The Quran)

Kurz, a conservative who has espoused nationalist policies, made the decision after an investigation into two Turkish religious organizations, the Turkish-Islamic Cultural Associations and Turkey’s Directorate of Religious Affairs, known as Diyanet.
The investigation was opened after photos emerged showing a group of boys wearing Turkish uniforms and saluting, marching and waving Turkish flags, according to Die Welt. Austria prohibits foreign funding of religious organizations.
“Parallel societies, political Islam and radicalization have no place in our country,” Kurz said Friday in his announcement of the pending mosque closures.
The 60 imams who may be expelled have links to Turkish nationalist groups.
Erdogan has increasingly relied on Muslim organizations in Europe and the U.S. to generate political support abroad. He faces re-election on June 24. (RELATED: Why Is The Head Of CAIR Palling Around With Turkey’s Ambassador?)

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  Iraq's Election & The Dangers of Matches.
Posted by: BIAD - 06-11-2018, 11:14 AM - Forum: General News and Events - Replies (3)

'Iraq ballot warehouse hit by blaze as country prepares for recount'

No way Pedro... no way. It's just a coincidence.

Quote:'A fire has torn through Iraq's largest ballot warehouse, ahead of a controversial recount prompted by allegations of fraud.
A column of dark smoke was seen rising above the Al-Russafa district of Baghdad, where around 60% of the capital's two
million eligible voters are believed to have cast their ballots in May.

Firefighters were struggling to stop the flames even two hours into the blaze, as staff ran back and forth from the warehouse
carrying blue and white ballot boxes. Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi suggested it had been a deliberate attempt to harm
his country's democratic processes.

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"Burning election warehouses... is a plot to harm the nation and its democracy," he said.
"We will take all necessary measures and strike with an iron fist all who undermine the security of the nation and its citizens."

Iraq's election, held on 12 May, was won by a coalition led by populist Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, in a surprise result that
pushed out political establishment figures. But the results have been marred by allegations of fraud, levelled by veteran
politicians fronted by Salim al-Juburi, the parliamentary speaker.

No timetable has been announced for the recount, which will take place at all polling stations.

Intelligence services say that tests of electronic voting machines produced varied results, implying the tools may be unreliable.
Officials said that Sunday's fire did not damage ballot boxes, which were in an adjacent room, but that voting machines and
other electronic equipment were destroyed.

"Election material, including maybe ballot boxes, were burned but most of the ballot boxes were stored in another building
and have been preserved," interior ministry spokesperson General Saad Maan said.
Less than half of Iraq's population took part in last month's election in what was widely interpreted as a show of disillusionment
with established elites - a trend further demonstrated in the swing to Mr al-Sadr's coalition.

It is this old guard clamouring for a recount: the outgoing parliament also voted to annul ballots of displaced Iraqis and sacked
the nine-member independent commission that oversaw the vote.
Mr al-Sadr, who emerged as a kingmaker in the elections, has a chequered and sometimes violent past which has included
targeting both foreign troops and Sunni Iraqis with violence.

But he has more recently positioned himself as an Iraqi nationalist, critical of both Iranian and American influence and sectarian
conflicts in Iraq, and forming diverse alliances with communists, Sunnis and independents...'

Sheesh, where's the Russians when you need 'em. They're supposed to be ace at election-rigging, Hillary and James said so.

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  Creepy Ghost
Posted by: guohua - 06-11-2018, 05:57 AM - Forum: The Paranormal World - Replies (7)

Creepy Ghost or Playful Spirits?

I believe in the afterlife and Spirits.
Some are Helpful and some are Not, some are just plain Mean and Nasty as they were in Life.
Most are confused and scared because they are fairly new souls and inexperienced.
But here for your viewing pleasure.

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  June's Loch Ness Sighting.
Posted by: BIAD - 06-10-2018, 09:36 PM - Forum: Cryptozoology - Replies (3)

Good old Nessie hits the headlines again ready for the beginning of June.

Ridicule it or not, there's something in the water.

(From The Daily Record)

Quote:Loch Ness Monster filmed 'frolicking' about in water for 10 minutes by spotter.

Eoin O’Faodhagain was given a "terrific shock" after appearing to capture
Nessie diving down before resurfacing.

'Of all history's greatest questions - who killed JFK? was the moon landing faked?
who shot Phil Mitchell? -none is more mysterious than 'is the Loch Ness Monster real?'.

Well a fan says he has an answer after filming the mythical beast frolicking about in the
waters of the famous Loch for 10 minutes... allegedly.

Eoin O’Faodhagain was given a "terrific shock" after appearing to capture Nessie diving
down before resurfacing. The clip has been accepted by the Official Loch Ness Monster
Sightings Register, according to The Mirror.

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Nessie watcher Eoin, 53, from Co Donegal, Northern Ireland, said: “I couldn’t believe my eyes
and started recording it on my phone.
“It was certainly something big. It dived down and up again and dived and disappeared.
"It was not a boat. I would say it was Nessie.”

Gary Campbell, keeper of the sightings register, said: “As far as Nessie footage goes, this
is a feature film. "Normally you only get videos of one or two seconds. It is remarkable in its length.
"Clearly it is something that dives in and out of the surface with water splashes and reflections.
"The object would be no larger than 20ft.”

The news comes just days before DNA sampling on fragments of skin and scales collected from
the loch in the Scottish Highlands...'

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Posted by: guohua - 06-09-2018, 11:20 PM - Forum: America's President D. Trump - Replies (4)

Most of you will like the Headlines and then again, there are the Few you will Cry, Kick Their Feet and Scream!
Go to your Safe Place and Hug Your pillow and Puppy,,,,,, This is NOT Your Year, or Next Year or the Following next 6 years.

Quote:TRUMP APPROVAL RATING Better than Obama and Reagan at Same Point in their Presidencies
giantthumbsup  It's only going to get better. Go have your Diapers Changed,,, Snowflake!
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Quote:On June 9, 2010 Barack Obama’s approval number was 46% on the Rasmussen poll.
President Trump’s approval number is at 47% according to Rasmussen today.

Again…. That is with 90% extremely negative coverage for President Trump!

Now to put the Icing on the Cake,, This headline should make everyone Happy,,,,who knows the truth about the evil Corrupt left and who is funding it.


Quote:George Soros recently lamented the rise of President Trump and anti-establishment parties across the globe, saying “everything that could go wrong, has gone wrong.”
Soros made the comment in an interview with The Washington Post published Saturday. He also said that he did not expect Trump’s election, saying, “Apparently, I was living in my own bubble.”
The activist billionaire also made the bizarre claim that President Trump would be “willing to destroy the world.”
Soros has become known for using his immense wealth to influence politics in the United States and around the world.

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  A question
Posted by: Wallfire - 06-09-2018, 09:25 PM - Forum: Off Topic - Replies (12)

I have a question I would like to ask you all, it a question I ask myself often wile looking at a camp fire. The question is----
What shape is a flame ?

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  Why did U.S. State Department Purchase Frozen Penguin Pineal Glands?
Posted by: Mystic Wanderer - 06-08-2018, 05:38 PM - Forum: Off Topic - Replies (2)

This is an older article, but just now coming to my attention.  I thought you all might enjoy a good mystery.   tinybiggrin 

Quote:Among the treasure trove of documents obtained by WikiLeaks is a very curious telegram on August 1, 1973, sent from Buenos Aires, Argentina to the U.S. State Department, concerning the shipment of frozen penguin pineal glands. The telegram says the shipment would arrive in Boston on August 4, 1973.

Below is a screenshot of the telegram:
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In August 1973, William P. Rogers was Secretary of State in the Richard Nixon administration.

Penguins are native to the Southern Hemisphere. A common misconception is that penguins are only found in Antarctica. In fact, major populations of penguins are found in Angola, Antarctica, Argentina, Australia, Chile, Namibia, New Zealand, and South Africa. Several penguin species are found in the temperate zone: one species, the Galapagos penguin, lives near the equator!

Two interesting and really cool things about penguins:
  1. Their flippers have at least three branches of the axillary artery. They limit heat loss from flippers by enabling cold blood to be heated by blood that has already been warmed. This system allows penguins to efficiently use their body heat and explains why such small animals can survive in the extreme cold of Antarctica.
  2. Penguins can drink salt water because their supraorbital gland filters excess salt from the bloodstream. The salt is then excreted in a concentrated fluid from the nasal passages.
But why was the U.S. State Department so interested in penguin pineal glands? Searching around the net, this is what I found:
[Image: human-pineal-gland.jpg?w=500&h=370]
  • The pineal gland is a small endocrine gland in the brains of nearly all vertebrates. The shape of the gland resembles a pine cone, hence the name “pineal gland”. Located in the epithalamus, near the center of the brain between the two hemispheres, the gland is tucked in a groove where the two halves of the thalamus join.

  • From the point of view of evolution, the pineal gland is a kind of atrophied photoreceptor. In the epithalamus of some species of amphibians and reptiles, the gland is linked to a light-sensing organ — the parietal eye, aka pineal or third eye.
  • French philosopher René Descartes believed the pineal gland to be the “principal seat of the soul“.

  • Function: The primary function of the pineal gland is to produce the hormone melatonin, which helps modulate sleep patterns. Since melatonin production is stimulated by darkness and inhibited by light, the long Antarctica winter would mean the pineal glands of Antarctica penguins produce a lot of melatonin. Studies on rodents suggest that melatonin can protect against neurodegeneration.

  • According to a 1975 article in the International Journal of Biometeorology, polar mammals, such as walruses and some seals, possess unusually large pineal glands. The article does not say if polar penguins also have unusually large pineal glands.

  • Pineal glands become calcified — the accumulation of calcium salts. Calcification has been observed in children as young as two years of age, and increases with age. Some studies show that the degree of pineal gland calcification is significantly higher in patients with Alzheimer’s disease vs. other types of dementia.

  • Pineal glands of mammals like rodents contain Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) — a tryptamine molecule that some call “the spirit molecule”. DMT can be consumed as a powerful psychedelic drug and has historically been used by various cultures for ritual and healing purposes. Illegal in most countries, DMT can be inhaled, injected, or orally ingested. A 2014 study found that DMT has immunomodulatory potential that may have significant anti-inflammatory and tissue regeneration effects.

So, the pineal gland has been studied for decades. THEY know it has "magical" powers and need to know how it works so they can stop the public from using those powers.  My opinion. 

Here is a great thread from the 8chan board:

Quote:>TLDR: Elite are consuming live pineal glands from children, to experience the ultimate "high". When we talk about adrenochrome from children's blood, we are only partially right. The adrenochrome is in wide use among elites, but is only half of the secret, as the live pineal glands have remained an important part of spiritual human history. Eating the dead flesh, or better yet, live flesh of the pineal gland causes activation of the pineal gland (aka, reptile eye), allowing the user to see, and experience a connection to the universe not achievable otherwise.

Not only is this common practice, it's been going on since the dawn of time. Forbidden fruit? Why is the Pope obsessed with snakes, and snake heads?

The Egyptians have told us everything about it. The Skull and Bones, the templars, and the oldest Sumerian beliefs all discuss the importance of these things. We will address these specifics below.

>Let's learn a bit, ok?
The Pineal Gland, aka the third eye, is a small cone-shaped part in our brain that is responsible for producing serotonin derivative melatonin which directly deal with our hormones which in turn modulate sleep, wake patterns, and our seasonal functions.
Located near the central part of our brain, the pineal gland occupies a small area between our two hemispheres.

It is considered by many as a portal that connects the physical and spiritual world in human. When activated, the pineal gland offers a sensation of euphoria, and oneness that hills the person mind, offering a sense of knowledge and enlightenment. The pineal gland is considered as a way of traveling between dimensions, referred by many as astral projection or remote viewing.
Curiously, if we look at the Pineal Gland and the Eye of Horus we will find a fascinating similarity.

The Eye of Horus is a symbol that represents protection, royal power, and health. The Eye is usually personified in the goddess Wadjet, and is also referred to as the ‘Eye of Ra’.


The pineal gland is located within the precise geometric center of the brain. And although larger in children, as we age, it reduces in size to that of a pea as it undergoes a gradual calcification process. The optimum size of the pineal gland, when fully engorged and activated, is that of a grape.

Anonymous  11/30/17 (Thu) 18:09:33 8eae16 No.16032>>18526

>>16027 (OP)

The Order of Skull and Bones, a Yale University society, was originally known as the Brotherhood of Death. It is one of the oldest student secret societies in the United States. The Skull and Bones secret society was officially founded at Yale University in 1832, but finds its roots in German Freemasonry. The society uses masonic inspired rituals to this day. Members meet every Thursday and Sunday of each week in a building they call the ‘Tomb.’

It’s that the members of the super-secret society Skull & Bones, to which both George Bush and his son belong, engage in a ceremony called ‘The Obscene Rite,’ which involves the consumption of the live pineal gland of a human or animal sacrifice in order to get the fresh secretions.

The descendents of the Apache, Geronimo have asked for his bones back from the Skull and Bones society. The Skull and Bones have their roots in the Knights Templar who had become accomplished sea pirates,[Phonecians, Skythans, Goths, Hyskos] hence the skull and bones flag. They are an ancient order who use the bones of the dead, [the powerful and famous] for ritual and magick.

There is a tradition dating back to at least 1000 A.D. in which Arabs and later Europeans engaged in the practice of 'eating mummy'. Ancient mummies were ground up and eaten for medicinal and occult practices…secret societies still practice the eating of 'live' pineal gland such as the Skull and Bones society [see my post on 'Cannibalism of ancient mummies'.]

Skull and Bones consume live pineal gland during ‘The Obscene Rite’
The beneficial effects of the hormone melatonin have been part of the health supplement scene for some time, for high melatonin production is known to be synonymous with a high immune system, a low cancer risk, long life, energy, stamina, and according to many, enhanced spiritual awareness.

Laurence Gardner writes:
"..High melatonin production thereby increases the facility for receiving and transmitting high-frequency cosmic and local broadcasts, and leads to a greater state of cosmic awareness - a state simply of ’knowing.’ In this regard, it is interesting to note that the Pineal Third Eye has been found to contain very fine granular particles, rather like the crystals in a wireless receiving set…many magical rites and meditation techniques are aimed at gaining control of this organ and the fluid it produces: the live melatonin… Supplements bought over the counter are ineffective because, as Gardner explains, their inherent secretions are obtained from the desiccated glands of dead animals and they lack the truly important elements which only exist in live human glandular manufacture.."

The Order of Skull and Bones, a Yale University society, was originally known as the Brotherhood of Death. It is one of the oldest student secret societies in the United States. The Skull and Bones secret society was officially founded at Yale University in 1832, but finds its roots in German Freemasonry. The society uses masonic inspired rituals to this day. Members meet every Thursday and Sunday of each week in a building they call the 'Tomb'.

The members of the super-secret society Skull & Bones, to which both George Bush and his son belong, engage in a ceremony called "The Obscene Rite," which involves the consumption of the live pineal gland of a human or animal sacrifice in order to get the fresh secretions.

The Skull and Bones is exactly that…and ancient order who use the bones of the dead, the powerful and famous for ritual and magick. Even the descendents of the Apache, Geronimo have asked for his bones back from the Skull and Bones society. – They have their roots in the Knights Templar who had become accomplished sea pirates, hence the skull and bones flag.

Read the full thread: https://8ch.net/cbts/res/16027.html

The Ancients used the power of the pineal gland (third eye). They have tried to keep the secret among themselves down through the years, being shared only within secret societies and their family lineage.

There are many videos/articles on the internet that teach how to de-calcify the pineal gland so that we all have access to it's magic, if you care to learn how.

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  Anthony Bourdain Dead at 61. Apparent Suicide
Posted by: Mystic Wanderer - 06-08-2018, 04:16 PM - Forum: The Enlightened Ones or The Powers That Be - Replies (8)

Quote:Fans, friends and colleagues are reacting with shock and sadness to the news of Anthony Bourdain’s apparent suicide. The 61-year-old celebrity chef and Emmy Award-winning “Parts Unknown” host was found unresponsive in his hotel room in Strasbourg, France, on Friday morning, CNN said.

“It is with extraordinary sadness we can confirm the death of our friend and colleague, Anthony Bourdain,” the network said in a statement Friday morning. “His love of great adventure, new friends, fine food and drink and the remarkable stories of the world made him a unique storyteller. His talents never ceased to amaze us and we will miss him very much. Our thoughts and prayers are with his daughter and family at this incredibly difficult time.”

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As soon as I saw this, especially so close to the death of Kate Spade, my mind went off in directions of asking what connections he may have had to The Muslim Brotherhood, pedogate, Luciferians, or the Illuminati? 
Well, turns out there are some connections...

Q mentioned there would be suicides taking place prior to us finding out about the Illuminati’s practice of child trafficking/sacrifice.  (from #qanon.pub no. 1431+1320)

The following is taken from a thread by Twitter member @ARRESTPODESTA

Quote:these first two suicides have definite possible connections to the ILLUMINATI and PEDOGATE.. which now brings us to Anthony Bourdain.. a favorite of Cabal-controlled CNN.. hater of Trump.. but most importantly.. ASIA ARGENTO’S BOYFRIEND

He is speaking of Kate Spade as one of the suicides.

Quote:most know Asia Argento as a victim of Harvey Weinstein.. she’s accused him of rape publicly and made a very powerful speech against him in public.. but i don’t really see anyone discussing her background.. and that begins with her father.. Italian film director DARIO ARGENTO.

DARIO ARGENTO is a famous horror film director in Italy.. but he didn’t just make horror movies.. he made SATANIC horror movies.. remember that the Illuminati use films to mind program the populace and put us in certain frequencies of mind.. his most famous movie is Suspiria.

A synopsis of what Suspiria is about..it speaks for itself.. “An American going to a prestigious German ballet academy realizes that the school is a front for something sinister amid a series of murders. The school was once a WITCHES COVEN - and as Suzy learns, still is.”

DARIO ARGENTO also wrote the screenplay for the movie The Sect.. a synopsis.. “A lonely kindergarten teacher discovers a secret well in the basement of her house, and soon finds herself being followed by a murderous SATANIC CULT.”

so one of Weinstein’s most vocal accusers has a father who makes Luciferian movies.. which brings us back to Asia.. here’s a more recent picture of Dario and Asia.. oh look.. they both knowingly re-created the ONE-EYE symbolism of the Illuminati.


just so happens Asia has a ONE-EYE tattoo on her back..

so the question becomes.. was Asia instructed to attack Harvey and make him a fall guy for the Cabal?.. was Anthony involved and killed himself to avoid facing public exposure for his own crimes?.. OR did Asia turn against the Illuminati and his death was a message to Asia?

we KNOW that Harvey Weinstein has used the MOSSAD to spy on his victims.. we know that Asia has publicly trashed him.. my gut tells me that Asia is trying to get out of the Cult and that Harvey had Anthony Bourdain killed.. the fact is that MOST members of the Illuminati WANT OUT

we should all keep this in mind as things unfold.. members of the Illuminati are brought in FROM BIRTH.. abused.. tortured.. forced to participate or face death.. if Asia is trying to break free she deserves our support.. i expect MANY ex-members will be testifying at TRIBUNALS.

If you are a member on Twitter, here is the thread with lots of pictures included in the posts: https://twitter.com/ARRESTPODESTA/status...5433235461

I'm sure there will be much more coming out as Anons dig into this.  I'll update as necessary.

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  Strange Voices In The Children's Heads
Posted by: BIAD - 06-08-2018, 09:05 AM - Forum: Psychological Well Being - Replies (3)

This is an odd phenomena and I have no idea what causes it.

Quote:The children who hear 'terrifying' voices.

'One in 12 children is thought to persistently hear voices that are not there.
Sometimes they tell them they are worthless. Now new research suggests the reaction of adults can affect
the voices they hear in future.

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"It's like being in a crowded room. All you can hear is all these multiple different voices having a go at you,"
Laura Moulding tells the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme.
The 21-year-old hears voices around her almost constantly, and has done since childhood.

"The voices are a combination of male and female voices, adults and children.
One of them sounds like a Doctor Who monster.
"They just tell me I'm useless pretty much all the time."

Laura's experiences began when she was around three years old.
She was sitting on the stairs at her grandparents' home and heard a lion and bear from a children's television
programme saying, "I'm coming to get you, I'm coming to get you", over and over again.
It was a terrifying experience, she says.

But when she first approached her parents, they assumed she was talking about imaginary friends.
She does not blame them for this, but did not try and talk to an adult about her voices for several more years.
It is estimated that one in 12 children has persistent auditory hallucinations.

Researchers at Manchester Metropolitan University and the University of Manchester -in the first UK study into
children who have such hallucinations and their parents -have found that the way in which people react to the
child's experiences can influence what the voices are like in the future.

At 15, Laura found the hallucinations were becoming too much for her to deal with on her own.
Her mother took her to see a GP to seek treatment.
"I was self-harming and it was horrible moment for me," she says.
"I was struggling because the voices were so loud, so intimidating, so abusive, that it was something I couldn't
cope with."

'Hearing mum's voice'
The research undertaken suggests that although many young people hearing voices will have a negative
experience like Laura, others find the voices reassuring or even fun.
The researchers asked young people and their carers to fill out detailed questionnaires about their experiences.

"Tia" is 13. She does not want us to use her real name.
Her experiences with voices were quite different to Laura's.
She was seven when she first noticed she could hear things no-one else could.
"I used to hear my mum's voice quite a lot," she says.

She would also hear men shouting from a distance, and once heard electricity pylons singing.
The voices would often make Tia laugh, but sometimes this led to her getting in trouble at school.
"One of my voices was just messing around with me, making me giggle too much," she says, leading her to swear
at them to keep quiet.

Many children first start hearing voices after they have suffered some kind of trauma.
Tia's mother Alice -not her real name -has a chronic illness, and thinks the stress of her becoming sick affected Tia.
"[Tia's] been through so much, and this is how she is expressing it. That's what upset me most I think," Alice says.
Alice worked out that Tia was hearing voices after seeing her react to them.
She decided not to take her to a doctor and instead spoke with the support group the Hearing Voice Network.

'I don't miss them'
Dr Sarah Parry from Manchester Metropolitan University says her team's research has implications for how young
people who hear voices should be treated.

"The children see the voices as part of themselves, so telling them the voices are a problem can add to a child's
stress, which in turn can make the voices become more unpleasant."

At the moment in the UK, children and young people who ask for help for hearing voices can be referred down a
number of different treatment pathways.
There are also a number of peer-support groups run by charities.
Dr Parry is seeking funding to set up a group specifically for young people who hear voices.

For Tia, one day the voices just went away on their own.
"I was like, 'Wait, there's nothing actually in my head -no-one speaking to me. I can just hear what I'm thinking'.
"I don't miss them."

Laura says she is now able to manage the voices with medication, or uses music to drown them out.
"I feel a lot stronger, a lot better in myself, even though the voices are still there," she says.
"They're not in control of me. I'm in control of them."...'

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